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Bacardi

2,235 posts

277 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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simon_j said:
(1/8000 to 1/12000).
Interesting figures you mention. t0.1 or t0.5? Scoro or Pro 8a?

Japveesix

4,482 posts

169 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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simon_j said:
rottie102 said:
simon_j said:
It's just a daylight shot so no artificial lighting as such apart from the table lamps.

Last weekend shooting liquids was a bit more complicated !


0010 by cocossj, on Flickr
How's that done? I mean the "dress"
It's multiple shots meshed together using high speed flash (1/8000 to 1/12000). There are various techniques and tools to apply the liquid so you can get smooth or rough textures.



0024 by cocossj, on Flickr

It's hard to show the detail on the skin but they look good when printed :-


0024 crop by cocossj, on Flickr
Very cool and original images, not seen anything quite like that before personally smile

Can we see the whole process from start to finish, just to understand how it's done wink

simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Bacardi said:
Interesting figures you mention. t0.1 or t0.5? Scoro or Pro 8a?
t.1 Einstein

simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Japveesix said:
simon_j said:
rottie102 said:
simon_j said:
It's just a daylight shot so no artificial lighting as such apart from the table lamps.

Last weekend shooting liquids was a bit more complicated !


0010 by cocossj, on Flickr
How's that done? I mean the "dress"
It's multiple shots meshed together using high speed flash (1/8000 to 1/12000). There are various techniques and tools to apply the liquid so you can get smooth or rough textures.



0024 by cocossj, on Flickr

It's hard to show the detail on the skin but they look good when printed :-


0024 crop by cocossj, on Flickr
Very cool and original images, not seen anything quite like that before personally smile

Can we see the whole process from start to finish, just to understand how it's done wink
I'll try but the whole process takes days to do (and maybe this is too much detail for what you want to know). The first thing is to do is work out exactly what you want to acheive in the final image so you know where to apply the liquid. That way you know step by step whether you've got the shots before the retouching starts.

You set up the base nude shot of the model with the correct lighting, pose, etc. Once you're happy with that the model has to hold the same pose whilst the liquid is applied. The camera is in a fixed position so you shouldn't get a lot of variation in lighting.

Depending on how you apply the liquid it will give different results :-


crop1 by cocossj, on Flickr


crop2 by cocossj, on Flickr

Once the images are shot you start the retouching of the base image. I didn't do much retouching in these images as I was more concerned about the dress so I'll have to rework them later. But if I was doing it properly I'd do multiple raw conversions for skin, eyes, hair, etc and mask in the conversions as necessary. Split the image into color and texture (using apply image on a linear light blend mode), heal, add a couple of curve adjustment layers for low level dodge and burn, and shade to give depth on a new 50% layer. So the base shot is completed like a normal image.

For the dress you'd go through the shots and select the best image for each part. Open the first one and correct lighting, save these settings and open all the others as smart objects with the saved settings. Compare the images and adjust temperature, contrast, etc so they all match. Rasterize the layers and then use puppet warp or liquify so they fit over same position as the base image. Repeat for all images and then blend using layer masks. Two days later you end up with an image you don't like and you start again!

So timewise it's 10% shooting and 90% photoshop.

sharpfocus

13,812 posts

192 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Spectacular work, Simon.

Bacardi

2,235 posts

277 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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simon_j said:
t.1 Einstein
Oh yes, didn't think about Buffs, a much better value solution.

theboyfold

10,922 posts

227 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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The wife enjoying her lunch in japan, not in the same league as some others here, but I like it


IMG_9524 by cloud34.com, on Flickr

Robbie B

7,715 posts

184 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Sorry I forgot about this thread! Looking through though, this simply doesn't match up to the above clap


flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

204 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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theboyfold said:

IMG_9524 by cloud34.com, on Flickr
theboyfold said:
...not in the same league as some others here...
On the contrary, I think its a great shot!

So much life and charm to it smile

theboyfold

10,922 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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flat-planedCrank said:
On the contrary, I think its a great shot!

So much life and charm to it smile
Thanks, I really like it

This was the photo I took seconds before, which is why I'm being slightly told off in that photo above smile


IMG_9523 by cloud34.com, on Flickr

simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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IMG_9846 by cocossj, on Flickr

simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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IMG_2503 by cocossj, on Flickr


IMG_2483 by cocossj, on Flickr

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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simon_j said:

IMG_2503 by cocossj, on Flickr


IMG_2483 by cocossj, on Flickr
Fascinating images.

I find them quite challenging in both artistic and technical terms.

They push some confort zones - or so it seems to me, adopting the position of enthusiastic observer.

Edited by LongQ on Thursday 22 September 13:24

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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LongQ said:
Fascinating images.

I find them quite challenging in both artistic and technical terms.

They puch some confort zones - or so it seems to me adopting the position of enthusiastic observer.
I'm fascinated by the story behind these images - how are they commissioned, the locations, models, set up. They look like they're commercial, but you're sharing them freely on a random car site. What's the driving force behind them?

Robbie B

7,715 posts

184 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Tuna said:
I'm fascinated by the story behind these images - how are they commissioned, the locations, models, set up. They look like they're commercial, but you're sharing them freely on a random car site. What's the driving force behind them?
I must admit I have wondered the same. You say you aren't professional despite being easily of the quality to make money from it, yet you get the most amazing shoots done, with stunning, natural and photogenic models in incredible locations with brilliant lighting on a regular basis!

Some of your shots, specifically the liquid dress ones, must have taken hours. Surely you're not renting high quality models and locations for a day at a time or whatever?

Come on Simon, spill hehe

paul911

2,770 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Tuna said:
I'm fascinated by the story behind these images - how are they commissioned, the locations, models, set up. They look like they're commercial, but you're sharing them freely on a random car site. What's the driving force behind them?
It's just my hobby and I spend a lot of time learning from others and teaching myself, experimenting, etc. I use to do a lot of motorsport photography but got into portraits and fashion photography about 4 years ago through Brett Harknesss. My normal day to day job is very busy so I've got lots of unedited images from the past few years. So I decided earlier in the year to do two things, one was to edit the best images to produce an A3 portfolio and the other was to setup a website with lighting diagrams, editing processes, etc for my own reference before I forgot how they were done. That's the only driving force. It's just for my own interest and I don't often show people what I do. I tend to edit something and when I get bored I put on here, then spend another two weeks tweeking it so it looks OK when printed. Most of the time I don't think think the images are that good so I do spend a lot of time in Photoshop but for me that's half the challenge.

simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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paul911 said:
Yep, that's the one. It's two days, the first day is shooting, the second is editing. The shooting really isn't that complicated but you do pick up tips about the milk mixture and how to apply it (there are techniques and tools). So basically you watch a demonstration on how to shoot a scene and then you go away, come up with your own concept and shoot it. On the editing day I was expecting there would be a big trick but there isn't. It's just time consuming and to be honest I ended up editing in a completely diferent manner from what I was shown.

simon_j

176 posts

285 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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A change from fashion portraits! Jenson, Monaco 09 pitlane :-


IMG_3859 by cocossj, on Flickr


Class One

157 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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This one is of my wife on the beach at Durdle Door in Dorset from 2009.


Vanessa by Douglas A.L.Young, on Flickr