8 Spoke Pristine Refurb
Discussion
Ragtop has it I believe. I can see it and its a shame for the money. We all want perfect and for £300 probably deserve it.
Its all down to the non-continuous, then continuous, then non continuous cut and probably as simple as the cutting off of continuous swarf and the not or similar. My guess would be that only a full face polish will ensure this doesn't happen, which kind of defeats the point. It could also relate to depth of cut? but its definitely there and shouldn't be or should have been part of the 'pre-refurb explanation.'
Its all down to the non-continuous, then continuous, then non continuous cut and probably as simple as the cutting off of continuous swarf and the not or similar. My guess would be that only a full face polish will ensure this doesn't happen, which kind of defeats the point. It could also relate to depth of cut? but its definitely there and shouldn't be or should have been part of the 'pre-refurb explanation.'
Hi Joe
Hmmm interesting topic. Actually used to work as a machinist on an old school lathe and was quite pleased when the YTS chap (not really) asked me to help him get the setup right for his CNC for a diamond cut finish.
So yep they don't look quite perfect but knowing how difficult it can be (with an old school) lathe anyway I think I would be reasonably happy with the finish you have. Look forward to seeing you again soon assuming you will be along on something S related soon. Will bore you with some more reasons then if you like as there are lots of possibilities !!
If you're not happy then assuming you don't mind some even lighter wheels you could ask them to do them again and pay more attention to the correct tooling and cutting fluid. Otherwise would you be tempted to just get a powder coat done all over like Tim's :-)
Greg
Hmmm interesting topic. Actually used to work as a machinist on an old school lathe and was quite pleased when the YTS chap (not really) asked me to help him get the setup right for his CNC for a diamond cut finish.
So yep they don't look quite perfect but knowing how difficult it can be (with an old school) lathe anyway I think I would be reasonably happy with the finish you have. Look forward to seeing you again soon assuming you will be along on something S related soon. Will bore you with some more reasons then if you like as there are lots of possibilities !!
If you're not happy then assuming you don't mind some even lighter wheels you could ask them to do them again and pay more attention to the correct tooling and cutting fluid. Otherwise would you be tempted to just get a powder coat done all over like Tim's :-)
Greg
Cheers Greg. It will have to be near enough is good enough and be content with them. I’ve got the Estorils to sort out next once I can find a finish I want. I’ll definitely be along to S events once the winter is over. Aren’t we due to hear from Longers some time soon about the next episode of “S-wars”?
These guys refurbed my my Vixen wheels (I realise they are down south, but they did a top job).
http://www.diamondstyling.co.uk/index.php
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http://www.diamondstyling.co.uk/index.php
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Well - after missing the recent bargain on ebay of four decent looking 8 spokes with tyres (I had three already, so didn't really want 7 cluttering up the house anyway!) - I have finally managed to assemble a set after years of hunting!. Took them all to Lepsons today (good reputation preceeds them) - sooo fingers crossed, wait finished article with much anticipation. Having had a good look around on-site today, they have a really impressive display of wheels and what they have done. Discussed the banding issue Joe, and no guarantee's, but the chap seemed quietly confident.
Brave decision - perhaps foolhardy some might say, but I decided against lacquer in the end. The wheels were showing various age related problems and the common theme was one of horrid and quite extensive white corrosion under the lacquer. I have resigned myself to a bit of elbow grease now and then. The chap said on the worst condition one I took in, that he would have recommended without lacquer for it. The two tone will be maintained so powder coated black first then cut through. We'll see I guess, but he showed me a Mk1 Escort RS wheel he'd done in the same process (diamond cut and black powder coat)and it looked superb. Will be interesting to see and i'll send the obligatory photo's when done of course.
Deeman said:
Brave decision - perhaps foolhardy some might say, but I decided against lacquer in the end. The wheels were showing various age related problems and the common theme was one of horrid and quite extensive white corrosion under the lacquer. I have resigned myself to a bit of elbow grease now and then. The chap said on the worst condition one I took in, that he would have recommended without lacquer for it. The two tone will be maintained so powder coated black first then cut through. We'll see I guess, but he showed me a Mk1 Escort RS wheel he'd done in the same process (diamond cut and black powder coat)and it looked superb. Will be interesting to see and i'll send the obligatory photo's when done of course.
Right decision Pete. I had mine done a few years ago and followed the recommendation of the people doing them to have the wheels lacquered. After 6 weeks the moisture began to appear underneath the lacquer so I took them back. I was told it had happened because they had been lacquered. I pointed out that it had been done on their recommendation but all they offered was to redo them at cost. I told them to Foxtrot Oscar and said I would be advising people to avoid their company at all costs.Apparently the old wheels are quite porous so of course moisture is bound to get under the lacquer.
When I get mine done again it will be at Lepsons and no lacquer. 20:20 vision is great isn't it.
Oldred_V8S said:
Apparently the old wheels are quite porous so of course moisture is bound to get under the lacquer.
When I get mine done again it will be at Lepsons and no lacquer. 20:20 vision is great isn't it.
I'm kinda glad you've said that Paul, as there seems to be divided opinions on the issue. I guess the key is just how much your going to use it. I'd also heard from my uncle who was a precision engineer by trade in his working years, that the older wheels do get porous - to such an extend he'd said often they aren't worth the trouble. He had mentioned that on occasions his had been pressure treated to seal the holes!! As promised, I'll report back. When I get mine done again it will be at Lepsons and no lacquer. 20:20 vision is great isn't it.
OK - got the wheels back today. Mixed emotions really, and perhaps I'm being a bit too pedantic, but I haven't been overwhelmed. No issues with the service at refurbers and they offered to have another skim for no charge because they could see my reaction, but to be honest I think its probably just the underlying condition the wheels were in. Two have come out better - two have visible banding, so as I say - not really blown away. I think perhaps my expectations were too high. Anyway - here's the fore and after shots. Pete 
One is a little mottled (bit like crystals on a granite worktop) - and might benefit from a bit more sanding and polishing. The view was it was the magnesium content - comment was made when on the mill, that the swarf wasn't coming away cleanly like newer metal but a bit more splintery. I know they are a vast improvement on what they were (and they weren't great), but I'm not convinced cutting the hell out of them will drive out a better result. Overall, i'd say they're ok, but not as I say, blown away. The fact they aren't lacquered does mean I can have a damn good polish to see if they can be improved. Anyway - that's the result. Pete
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