V8S Brake Parts

V8S Brake Parts

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Bobhon

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1,057 posts

180 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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While the car was in for it's MOT today I noticed that the brake discs looked a bit rusty all round so I would like to treat her to 4 new discs and a new set of pads.

The questions now are :-
What car are the V8 discs off, any sizes/offsets or part numbers?

Has anyone bought any discs recently from a supplier that they'd recommend?

Is it worthwhile going for drilled and/or grooved discs?

What pads are good for a light upgrade with normal road use?

Any help gratefully received.

Bob

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

205 months

Sunday 1st April 2012
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Ford Sierra discs.
Click on the 'this forum ' link above then select show faq's you should find what you need in there.

v8s4me

7,242 posts

220 months

Sunday 1st April 2012
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See if these are still avaialble

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3718413.htm

Disc's and a cheap, but very effective, brake upgrade into the bargain.

Bobhon

Original Poster:

1,057 posts

180 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Barkychoc said:
Ford Sierra discs.
Click on the 'this forum ' link above then select show faq's you should find what you need in there.
No joy there, a couple of posts on the brake flexi hose sets but nothing on the discs and pads for a V8S.
Alternative parts list shows front discs & pads but rear drums and shoes.
Are the brakes common with the early Grif's?
Are the rear discs off Granada or a Cosworth Sierra?

Bob

phillpot

17,117 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Bobhon said:
Are the rear discs off Granada or a Cosworth Sierra ?
Hi Bob,two wheel drive Sierra Cozzy or XR4i I think, 4wd Cozzy is vented disc.


Have a rummage around www.brakesinternational.co.uk ,search various Sierra options they give all the dimensions, and prices are reasonable

(don't list a lot actually under TVR)

Just my opinion but I don't think vented and/or drilled are necessary for road use, look pretty but wouldn't show through your wheels?

Everyone's got their preferences on pads,Green stuff worked ok on my Chim (took a couple of stops to warm up) but happy with "standard" pads on my other cars, some performance pads can create a lot of dust, Taimar had 4 pots and fancy pads when I bought it (now back to standard TR6), once round the block and wheels were filthy!

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Look at this if you want to upgrade

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

If you don't the discs are standard sierra but not early 1.3/1.6 models as they are not vented.
The standard disc is 240mm diameter vented ford sierra.

In summary

Early 1.3/1.6 Sierra - 240mm non vented WRONG DISC
Later 1.6/above Sierra - 240mm vented this is standard fit on an S.
Later Sierra with ABS / XR4i - 260mm diameter disc which fits with appropriate calipers, carrier brackets and pads. This is also as fitted to 5 litre griffs & chims.

There is a bigger option still which I have not been involved with - it costs more and you have to drill the holes out on the uprights and use packing washers.

orange_dodo

694 posts

190 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Don't get drilled discs.

Vented are fine but they aren't really vents as brake pads these days have no problems with out gassing which they were originally designed to help with. Vents are now used to gently scrape the pad surface which reduces glazing when your really thrashing them and gets rid of any rubbish that gets stuck between the pad and disc. Or more often to just look good.

If you get drilled discs they are liable to crack when they get really hot. The expansion really stresses the disc which isn't a problem unless someones gone and drilled a hole in the middle of it which concentrates the stress round the edge and can crack it.

I personally bought some Brembo discs from next day brakes I think the top ones are the discs you need but don't quote me on it. They are the 240mm discs and I've just bought a set for my S2. £30 delivered for the pair is pretty good.

phillpot

17,117 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Think the majority of disc's these days are actually grooved and dimpled probably because of the issues mentioned with drilling ? scratchchin

TurboTony

908 posts

172 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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But don't the dimples just fill up with brake dust and make them similar to plain discs?

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Plain discs give the maximum braking contact area and minimum noise and pad wear so are the best to go for unless you are trying to cure an overheating problem. If you aren't suffering from brake fade, stick with plain discs.

If you're suffering from brake fade on the road, there's probably something wrong with your brakes (i.e. worn out, sticking, wrong pad/fluid type, not bedded in properly etc) and it would be better to make sure everything is working properly before you start thinking about upgrades.

Whatever else you do, remember that drilled discs are the devil's work and should be avoided at all costs. Grooved are OK (although it doesn't need many grooves - 6..8 is fine you don't need 20 or 40 grooves) but remember you're paying a price in terms of noise, wear and reduced pad contact area so this should be way down on the list of possible cures for overheating brakes.


mohitos

1,313 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Sorry to revive such an old thread. I am just reviewing the brakes fitted to my car during it's rebuild.

It looks like the front discs are vented and the rears are solid. Does that sound correct on a V8S ?

TIA!

The Big G

991 posts

169 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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mohitos said:
Sorry to revive such an old thread. I am just reviewing the brakes fitted to my car during it's rebuild.

It looks like the front discs are vented and the rears are solid. Does that sound correct on a V8S ?

TIA!
Yup, that sounds spot on. If I remember correctly, which I definitely could be, the rears have a larger diameter too!

Plenty of options to upgrade the fronts if required. Can be done quite cheaply too if your lucky in finding parts.

mohitos

1,313 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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OK thanks, that's good news ! Not so bothered about upgrades. Just wanted reassurance that the rears weren't vented...