Any interest in an S Club track day?
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Scoobimax said:
GadgeS3C said:
Just going to dangle this out there as a thought - shoot me if it's a dumb idea...
Max's trackday idea seems to have got lots of interest. Just wondering if the trackday could actually be part of next year's S-Club Heaven event?
I'm thinking if the track day was on a Friday a venue could be found to build in some camping and have a further meet/run out on the Saturday?
Thought I'd raise it here and see response - if positive I'll start a separate thread. But don't want to steal Max's thunder!
Gary
Max's trackday idea seems to have got lots of interest. Just wondering if the trackday could actually be part of next year's S-Club Heaven event?
I'm thinking if the track day was on a Friday a venue could be found to build in some camping and have a further meet/run out on the Saturday?
Thought I'd raise it here and see response - if positive I'll start a separate thread. But don't want to steal Max's thunder!
Gary
not shooting you down at all - the thought had crossed my mind (momentarily i might add) but i felt it too big a committment for me personally at the momment with work my loads currently.
I'm happy to tag anything on to this and support/work with someone organising SCH 2014 (or beyond) but increased numbers either changes the format (more on track at one time & possible price increase per person due to BPDC insurance) or reduces time on track (fewer laps to accommodate higher numbers but not necessarily reduced cost).
I was thinking as an add-on to your event and I wasn't suggesting you organise the rest of it!
Appreciate it might complicate things but just wondering if it was a possibility if others (me included) were prepared to help organise and it didn't mess up the trackday.
Lots of ifs!
Gary
I'm quite prepared to
Scoobimax said:
Depends what you want of the event - i can't see javelein adding anything other than a mark up to replicate what i attendded last Friday.
my aim is to keep it compact and bijou in other words simple (like me)
Ah no problem - very happy to see what you come up with. my aim is to keep it compact and bijou in other words simple (like me)
FWIW, those on classic car insurance may have track day cover included in their policy, but the day would have to be operated by an ATDO member (Association of Track Day Organisers). In my experience, Javelin are amongst the cheapest operators (no affiliation !). Anyway, keen on this as I have never tracked by TVR and think it might be quite interesting !
mohitos said:
FWIW, those on classic car insurance may have track day cover included in their policy, but the day would have to be operated by an ATDO member (Association of Track Day Organisers). In my experience, Javelin are amongst the cheapest operators (no affiliation !). Anyway, keen on this as I have never tracked by TVR and think it might be quite interesting !
and to add, my Classic Insurance with RH includes track days if TVRCC organised, and i would try to get this under that banner as last Friday was.Max
Edited to addd:
Gary - good to see the good natured banter and no b!tchiness seen so frequently on other forums
Edited by Scoobimax on Wednesday 7th August 16:21
Edited by Scoobimax on Wednesday 7th August 17:57
Scoobimax said:
mohitos said:
FWIW, those on classic car insurance may have track day cover included in their policy, but the day would have to be operated by an ATDO member (Association of Track Day Organisers). In my experience, Javelin are amongst the cheapest operators (no affiliation !). Anyway, keen on this as I have never tracked by TVR and think it might be quite interesting !
and to add, my Classic Insurance with RH includes track days if TVRCC organised, and i would try to get this under that banner as last Friday was.Max
Edited to addd:
Gary - good to see the good natured banter and no b!tchiness seen so frequently on other forums
Edited by Scoobimax on Wednesday 7th August 16:21
Edited by Scoobimax on Wednesday 7th August 17:57
Dave_M said:
I don't see why it couldn't be a TVR CC event, the venue is in EM and it is for TVRs so I think that fits the bill. TVRCC don't insure events, but can make it an official event. I'm not sure though if that would cause any issue for non-TVRCC people. Maybe if you send me an email I'll send it on, unless someone with more knowleged posts first of course. We could also discuss at Thoresby and RAF Scampton (your passenger has been cleared for that)
Thanks Dave, I was going to mail Paul and Colin to see how last Fridays Blyton event was set up. Appreciate TVRCC don't insure track days, but so long as I can get it classed as organised by TVRCC then many classic insurance policies should cover it for individuals. It will of course be each drivers responsibility to ensure they're covered.And finally there's no rush on this as I won't be organising until next year, this thread was to gauge interest before i set off on research.
Seems like a resounding yes on the interest front :-)
I tried to organise a TVR track day, but found it was either too expensive, or I had issues with the circuits not wanting to hack off their track day company clients. As you have been discussing, organising it via a club is one possible route, but insurance for the organisers will always be an issue, and I would question whether the classic car cover will cover an ad hoc arrangement.
One of the best suggestions I received was to talk to someone like Javelin or MSV and get them to organise it for you.
Or to share a track with another club, say Westfield owners, alternating 20 minute sessions, again to keep costs down.
One of the best suggestions I received was to talk to someone like Javelin or MSV and get them to organise it for you.
Or to share a track with another club, say Westfield owners, alternating 20 minute sessions, again to keep costs down.
I'd echo that. Unless arranged by an ATDO registed company, my classic car insurance policy won't cover me. Affiliaction with TVRCC would not be enough. My policy is with Mannings UK.
I've found Javelin to be extremely good value relative to the other track day organisers. They have days at Blyton Park starting at £99 which is really as cheap as it gets for a track day.
Through the Porsche 968 forum they gave us first dibs to book on a day so although not exculsively for our use, it was predominatly so.
I've found Javelin to be extremely good value relative to the other track day organisers. They have days at Blyton Park starting at £99 which is really as cheap as it gets for a track day.
Through the Porsche 968 forum they gave us first dibs to book on a day so although not exculsively for our use, it was predominatly so.
mohitos said:
I'd echo that. Unless arranged by an ATDO registed company, my classic car insurance policy won't cover me. Affiliaction with TVRCC would not be enough. My policy is with Mannings UK.
I've found Javelin to be extremely good value relative to the other track day organisers. They have days at Blyton Park starting at £99 which is really as cheap as it gets for a track day.
Through the Porsche 968 forum they gave us first dibs to book on a day so although not exculsively for our use, it was predominatly so.
And this is where I/we can't please all of the people all of the time - my insurance cover for track days is (I think) only owners club organised events.I've found Javelin to be extremely good value relative to the other track day organisers. They have days at Blyton Park starting at £99 which is really as cheap as it gets for a track day.
Through the Porsche 968 forum they gave us first dibs to book on a day so although not exculsively for our use, it was predominatly so.
Happy to talk through at SCH but I can't see vast numbers for a purely S event which is what was trying to be arranged here, hence replicating the event I recently attended. TVRCC already do a TVR wide track day and so I can't imagine they'd want to sponsor another similar one.
All still early days and as soon as i have someting firmer i'll start a new thread to sign up to (not debate) ;-)
Not sure if this helps or hinders discussions about track day insurance. I am with Classic Lines, and as part of the standard policy have track day cover included as well as breakdown. I had to send them a copy of my TVR CC membership card.
I contacted them about cover for the ASDA On Your Marks charity track day (which was excellent), and they sent me a cover letter that contained the following information:
Cover will be excluded under Section(s) 1,3,4,5,6,e & 10, whilst the track day extension is operative.
Track day cover is therefore restricted to only Section 2. Accidental Damage of your vehicle, and
providing the following applies:
1.The event is non competitive and is based in the UK or an agreed EU Country by the Insurer.
2.The event is organised by a member of the Associations of Track Day Organisers (ATDO), or a member of
Racing Drivers Schools (ARDS), or a member of Auto-Moto Event Organisers (FAEO).
OR
The event is organised by your car club and marshalled.
3. The above event has been agreed with the Insurers and the relevant additional premium has been paid.
Whilst your vehicle is on track, or paddock area the accidental damage excess will increase to 10% of the
vehicle value, or £1000 whatever the greater, for any accidental damage made.
Please note there is no windowscreen, or Breakdown cover whilst your vehicle
is on track.
I contacted them about cover for the ASDA On Your Marks charity track day (which was excellent), and they sent me a cover letter that contained the following information:
Cover will be excluded under Section(s) 1,3,4,5,6,e & 10, whilst the track day extension is operative.
Track day cover is therefore restricted to only Section 2. Accidental Damage of your vehicle, and
providing the following applies:
1.The event is non competitive and is based in the UK or an agreed EU Country by the Insurer.
2.The event is organised by a member of the Associations of Track Day Organisers (ATDO), or a member of
Racing Drivers Schools (ARDS), or a member of Auto-Moto Event Organisers (FAEO).
OR
The event is organised by your car club and marshalled.
3. The above event has been agreed with the Insurers and the relevant additional premium has been paid.
Whilst your vehicle is on track, or paddock area the accidental damage excess will increase to 10% of the
vehicle value, or £1000 whatever the greater, for any accidental damage made.
Please note there is no windowscreen, or Breakdown cover whilst your vehicle
is on track.
Its a great idea to have an all TVR, even all-S, track day, and if you will let me, I'd love to bring my Chimaera along too.
Suggestion for the would-be organiser, if you go that route - talk to MSV first. Yes, I know they are the biggest, but they own Snetterton, Brands Hatch, Bedford Autodrome, Oulton Park and Cadwell Park.
I was looking at booking evening track sessions this month, as I find 2.5 hours on track quite sufficient - I cover over 100 miles in that time at 8 mpg, as I have five litres to feed, and so have to re-fuel on the circuit as my Chimaera won't do fast right-handers without at least 1/3 of a tank of fuel on board.
MSV were £69 at Cadwell Park and Snetterton for the evening, Javelin were £79 for Cadwell, and the other one (cannot remember who they were), who I think were Snetterton again, were £99 - so MSV, as track owners, might well be both more flexible and cheaper.
I am quite friendly with one of the guys (Andrew) who runs the track sessions, having met him and had a chat at three of their circuits - I can have a word if you want me to, as I will be booking Snetterton in early September so will see him again soon. He is a big fan of TVRs so might give you the leg-up you need.
Suggestion for the would-be organiser, if you go that route - talk to MSV first. Yes, I know they are the biggest, but they own Snetterton, Brands Hatch, Bedford Autodrome, Oulton Park and Cadwell Park.
I was looking at booking evening track sessions this month, as I find 2.5 hours on track quite sufficient - I cover over 100 miles in that time at 8 mpg, as I have five litres to feed, and so have to re-fuel on the circuit as my Chimaera won't do fast right-handers without at least 1/3 of a tank of fuel on board.
MSV were £69 at Cadwell Park and Snetterton for the evening, Javelin were £79 for Cadwell, and the other one (cannot remember who they were), who I think were Snetterton again, were £99 - so MSV, as track owners, might well be both more flexible and cheaper.
I am quite friendly with one of the guys (Andrew) who runs the track sessions, having met him and had a chat at three of their circuits - I can have a word if you want me to, as I will be booking Snetterton in early September so will see him again soon. He is a big fan of TVRs so might give you the leg-up you need.
Up for this. Did oulton park open lane with MSV last year and it was great. No silencers on my v8 still passed the 105db restrictions no problem. The days track insurance was 80quid for the day and covered full cost of any crash damage but with about 600 quid excess which I found reasonable.
gizzardio said:
Up for this. Did oulton park open lane with MSV last year and it was great. No silencers on my v8 still passed the 105db restrictions no problem. The days track insurance was 80quid for the day and covered full cost of any crash damage but with about 600 quid excess which I found reasonable.
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