Help needed with component form roof

[magpies]

Hi. I have an S1 which has its roof in component form. I'm in Teesside and looking for someone to either put it together or advise / help me install it.

All parts I believe are in very good condition (not like the rest of the car when I purchased it!)
The material has been removed from the main hoop.

[RayTVR]

Mick,

Happy to pop down with mine if it helps. Its an S3 but don't think its different?

Haven't done anything to mine, but if it would help to see a complete one for reference just give me a shout and I'll pop down.

[glenrobbo]

Joe's yer man!
I warn you, he can be roofless!
He has removed a perfectly good roof and fashioned a revolutionary folding roof in component form to present to his lucky trimmer, who is probably called Dave.
Most of them are called Dave.

If you're not sure how yours goes together Mick, just ask any Dave.

I think assembling it to the car is pretty self explanatory, but getting the fabric to sit evenly tensioned is a bit of a black art.

And you need glue. Lots and lots of glue. However, keeping that from going everywhere is also pretty tricky.
I got covered in the stuff just covering my Alan's Roof Stowage Enclosure with carpet.
Have you got all the seals to fit as well?

If you want any pictures taking, just ask. Or ask Ian ( m & s ) if you want to copy a nice S1.

Good luck.

Edit: To get you started, here's a rough idea of how it should look:

Edited by glenrobbo on Sunday 19th April 16:45

[magpies]

glenrobbo said:

Joe's yer man!
I warn you, he can be roofless!
He has removed a perfectly good roof and fashioned a revolutionary folding roof in component form to present to his lucky trimmer, who is probably called Dave.
Most of them are called Dave.

If you're not sure how yours goes together Mick, just ask any Dave.

I think assembling it to the car is pretty self explanatory, but getting the fabric to sit evenly tensioned is a bit of a black art.

And you need glue. Lots and lots of glue. However, keeping that from going everywhere is also pretty tricky.
I got covered in the stuff just covering my Alan's Roof Stowage Enclosure with carpet.
Have you got all the seals to fit as well?

If you want any pictures taking, just ask. Or ask Ian ( m & s ) if you want to copy a nice S1.

Good luck.

Edit: To get you started, here's a rough idea of how it should look:

Edited by glenrobbo on Sunday 19th April 16:45

Cheers g

you do know the picture is of my car with 'that' roof.

[magpies]

Cheers Ray but as glenrobbo says 'getting it right' is a black art.

Not too bothered at the mo to drive with no roof (once on the road that is)

it is the re-gluing to the main hoop that I'm unsure of.

Hope I have all the seals

[v8s4me]

glenrobbo said:

.... his lucky trimmer, who is probably called Dave. Most of them are called Dave.

He is as it happens! Dave is the trimmer. That's not Dave The Trimmer, but Dave who is a trimmer. Confused? You will be

Edited by v8s4me on Sunday 19th April 23:19

[glenrobbo]

magpies said:

Cheers g

you do know the picture is of my car with 'that' roof.

Yep, it took a bit of finding, I can tell you Mick.

I still have a left hand front wing headlight recess section from it that you sent me when I was experimenting.
Shame my efforts came to nought.
But well done for resurrecting that S.
I think your new choice of colour suits it much better, the cascade/chameleon purple , whatever it's called, doesn't really suit the S. In my view, it looks a bit incongruous, whereas the Tuscan looks superb in it.

Looking forward to seeing the finished project.

[glenrobbo]

Just a thought Mick,
Are you fitting the original fabric back onto the roof?
If so are there any 'witness marks' on the hoop and fabric that can give you a reference point to match the parts up exactly where they were glued before? You could use that as a starting point and once the first small trip section is firmly glued with spray adhesive and has set, carry on with the remainder of the laying up with a bit of tension as you go.

I may be talking bx though.

[glenrobbo]

v8s4me said:

glenrobbo said:

.... his lucky trimmer, who is probably called Dave. Most of them are called Dave.

He is as it happens! Dave is the trimmer. That's not Dave the Trimmer, but Dave who is a trimmer. Confused? You will be

In my entire life ( so far! ), I have met quite a few trimmers, and they have all been called Dave except for two of them.
One was called John of Milton Keynes and the other was called Chris of Bispham by the Pool of Black.
Oh, and there was a Graham of Woodford, but he ended up changing his name to Dave by deed poll so he didn't feel out of place working with all the other Daves.
Even Australian trimmers are called Dave, not Bruce as you would expect.

Note: Some of the characters' names may have been changed to preserve their anonymity.

[Colin RedGriff]

I wrote an article for my S2 when I replaced the rear section that might help with refitting yours

http://www.tvrsseries.com/rearhoodsectionremoval/T...

[Alan461]

v8s4me said:

Confused? You will be

Tagline from Soap in the 70's
Do you remember when Burt was abducted by aliens?



Sorry for hijack Mick, can't help with trim.

[glenrobbo]

Alan461 said:

v8s4me said:

Confused? You will be

Tagline from Soap in the 70's
Do you remember when Burt was abducted by aliens?



Sorry for hijack Mick, can't help with trim.

Ah, SOAP! Brilliant series, I used to love that!
I remember it well Alan.

I also remember when Joe was abducted by aliens!

Edited by glenrobbo on Sunday 19th April 22:52

[v8s4me]

glenrobbo said:

.......

Clever where did you get this from and have you been taking secret IT lessons from someone?

[glenrobbo]

v8s4me said:

Clever where did you get this from and have you been taking secret IT lessons from someone?

Getting a bit off-topic Joe, but it's amazing what you can find on t'internet after a few

It's how Mick found his S1

[glenrobbo]

Colin RedGriff said:

I wrote an article for my S2 when I replaced the rear section that might help with refitting yours

http://www.tvrsseries.com/rearhoodsectionremoval/T...

Just in case it got lost amongst all the off-topic banter, Colin's brilliant 12-page step by step guide is absolutely the best guide you could have without having an actual Dave on the job with you.

Note that it is important to get the lower rear part of the roof fabric perfectly aligned on the bottom rail before moving on to the rest of the fitting. If the covering fabric is slightly askew, you will get wrinkles which are magnified as the material is stretched and stuck to the top of the pram hood.

Also note there is a "dart" required at each top corner where the fabric curves over the sides of the pram hood or you will get wrinkles here.
You may wish to sew a seam on these darts to prevent fraying or separation/ lifting later on, but they need to be quite accurately marked once you have confidently established by trial and error exactly where the darts need to be.

It may be necessary to temporarily glue the fabric to the lower rail, see how the fabric sits when stretched over the pram hood, then if not quite right, peel back, reposition and try again until perfect.

Marking the centres of the rails and the fabric covering before you start gives you a reference to work to.

Best of luck!

[v8s4me]

glenrobbo said:

....Marking the centres of the rails....

..or the centre of the car? not necessarily the same thing as I discovered

[greymrj]

The two trimmers who have done jobs for me are called Roy (Preston) and John (Blackpool), we like to be a bit more individual up here you know!!!;)

Just one point you might consider. To secure the rear rail of the hood TVR used bolts let into the fibreglass. Bit of a b....r if they go rusty or come loose. They can also lead to a leak between the hood and the boot. John (i.e. not one of the Dave's!) now fills the holes in the bodywork and uses stainless (please note Philpott) fastenings fitted from inside the car. Neat fittings on the inner ambla on mine now.

[glenrobbo]

v8s4me said:

glenrobbo said:

....Marking the centres of the rails....

..or the centre of the car? not necessarily the same thing as I discovered

Well yes, there is the hand made aspect to consider
The centreline of the car body probably won't coincide with the centreline of the chassis either! And the bonnet can be off-centre as well!
Manufacturing tolerances at Blackpool varied depending on the day of the week.
Always greater tolerance on a Friday . And no tolerance at all on a Monday morning after a heavy weekend.


But assuming the rails are shimmed equally to the body mounting points on each side to get it exactly near enough, then marking centre lines will at least give a reference to re-adjust the positioning of the fabric if it starts to go a bit askew and wrinkled under trial tension to the pram hood.

The hardest thing of all is preventing adhesive from getting everywhere
A plentiful supply of blue gloves helps. as well as lots of clean rags and some solvent cleaner that is not too hard on the skin.
A wire brush leaves a bit of a rash.

[glenrobbo]

greymrj said:

The two trimmers who have done jobs for me are called Roy (Preston) and John (Blackpool), we like to be a bit more individual up here you know!!!;)

Just one point you might consider.

Don't be fooled Richard, they are just pulling your leg.

They are both actually called Dave, as Boycie will tell you.

[v8s4me]

glenrobbo said:

........ are shimmed equally ......

ie. packed out with bloody great washers ...............

glenrobbo said:

........ equally ......

??????!!!!

.....and you will probably find you need more/less on one side or the other to compensate for the "engineering tolerances" mentioned above by Glen.

glenrobbo said:

........ The hardest thing of all is preventing adhesive from getting everywhere ......

I can recommend wrapping any bits of the body you will be gluing near in clingfilm. Worked for me anyway

That's the body of the car Glen, not your room-mate