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daytona365

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1,773 posts

164 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Hi all, is the TVR S1 such a poor relation to all the others that came after, ie S2 S3 S3C etc etc, or is there not that much in it ? In other words will the S1 ever have its 'day' ? Thanks.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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'Poor relation'!!!!!!!!!!!!............eek 'poor relation' shoot!!!!!!!!
Go and wash your mouth out with soap and repeat after me 100 times:
'The S1 is the original and purest of all the S type TVR's'

mind you, I might be biased?

Seriously though there isnt that much to choose between them and you will find some real S1 fans in this forum, try telling Glenrobbo or Mk1fan (or me!) that their cars are poor relations. You need to go down on your knees to Glen (and buy him a pint) to make amends. Sometime this weekend a couple of S1's will be showing their mettle round the Spa circuit.

The S1 2.8 engine is only marginally less powerful than the 2.9 in the later cars, I doubt many people would notice the difference. The best 2.9's will have the edge but a good S1 would have the edge on an average 2.9, in the right hands.
Some prefer the more 'electronic' 2.9 to work on, some favour the dark art of the Jetronic 2.8.

The chassis and roadholding features are little different and in most cars it would be more down to the state of preparation of the car.

Personally, and I know that non S owners who visit the cars at shows seem to agree, that the 'swooping' dash of the earlier cars is the best, even if TVR did overdo it on the 'christmas tree' of warning lights.

'Well built', tall, or less nimble (old!) owners will prefer the larger doors and easier access on the later cars.....wimps!!

Join the more select group of S1 owners!

daytona365

Original Poster:

1,773 posts

164 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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I'm thinking of it, but will I have to grow a beard and quaff real ale ?

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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The real ale sounds good to me, and if Glen reads this he will join in on that one. The beard though? Been there, done that, grew out of it!

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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The 2.9's worth about 20bhp in the real world, as no 2.8 gets near 160bhp! The 2.9 also makes a cool noise - almost V8 in its woofliness.

The 2.8's got a very different character, considering they're very similar. It pops, it bangs, it's much more raspy and much more keen to rev (even though it's not actually any good at it). It's definitely got a more raw, pure feel to it than a 2.9. The S1 is (IMO) the more fun car to punt down a country road with the roof off, purely for the rasping, popping and banging! The 2.9 would unquestionably be quicker A-B with equal drivers though (although I drive a Saxo everyday to work and back which would murder either, so I'm under no illusions on my Trev! hehe ) I've got a mix of both - an S1 that looks like an S2!

I wouldn't say the S2/3/4 are 'having their day' and the S1 not though. Most buyers buy on condition, and settle for whichever model crops up. You do get the brigade who insist on a certain colour, year, trim etc. They're the ones who wait forever for a car to pop up, then end up having to have the chassis put right a year or so later at great expense.

If you're buying an S, buy on condition and condition only. They all look nice, they're all fun, just buy one that you can enjoy is my advice.

tvrgit

8,472 posts

252 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Exactly.

There are 3 things to check.

1. the chassis

2. the chassis

3. the chassis again.

Not that they are bad, but if there is rust, it can be hard to spot, especially on top of the outriggers (where you cant's see or feel) and around the rear suspension mounts (which you can).

Everything else is fixable at relatively low cost.

glenrobbo

35,246 posts

150 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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yikes I can't believe the things the OP posted on here whilst we were away hooning around the Ardennes twisties.
Poor relation? No way!

The S1 is a bit down on power* compared to the 2.9 models, but it more than makes up for that in the way it converts petrol into noise cloud9

I just love the way mine sounds going up or down through the gears, and the handling is every bit as good as an S3 once sorted.
I don't think I was shamed at our Blyton Park track day last year.
Just follow the advice given on here, buy a good example of any model and I guarantee you'll love whichever flavour you end up with. driving

Beards? That's for the younger ones these days, eh Simon? wink
And real ale is definitely preferable to the artificial stuff beerbeer



  • Austin was definitely down on power at Spa this time, possibly as a result of back pressure from the second hand temporary exhaust I fitted just prior to the trip, only to find the baffles were all loose and sounding like a thousand vuvuzelas in a giant dustbin! AWFUL!! That will be remedied ASAP to return to the sound I love ears
Whatever you get, keep us posted.
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