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I cannot really see the shape of the 'beads' but that doesnt sound too likely to me, unless a rather special process has been used like cold iron 'needles' then the 'beads' would not have been iron.
Furthermore, if the covers were blasted prior to chroming then the chroming process would have removed any such contamination.
If the engine has been given a quick blast over to clean it prior to sale (which would be very unusual in my experience) then dust could have got in if the vent or filler wasnt on properly.
Wish I could see and feel the stuff!
Furthermore, if the covers were blasted prior to chroming then the chroming process would have removed any such contamination.
If the engine has been given a quick blast over to clean it prior to sale (which would be very unusual in my experience) then dust could have got in if the vent or filler wasnt on properly.
Wish I could see and feel the stuff!
GadgeS3C said:
I'm no expert on bead blasting but looking at the shape of the particles they don't look like a wear product. Much more like blasting beads or similar.
Not sure why it's on the inside though
I totally agree, we have a bead (steel grit) blaster in work and the steel beads (grit) look exactly like those in you photo. Probably, someone forgot to clean out the grit after the blasting ! Not sure why it's on the inside though
I stand corrected on that one, I have never used steel beads for blasting, except chilled iron for removing stuff like chrome. My local man does a lot of motorcycle stuff, lots of alloy, so uses ceramic beads mainly.
If that has got into the engine then it is definitely a case of flushing oil at the very least. Even better, sump off and a first wash through with diesel. Best of all, engine out, strip and clean. One grain of that through a big end would score the crank. We need to know who did something that stupid to a TVR engine just to tart it up, that is well nigh criminal!
If that has got into the engine then it is definitely a case of flushing oil at the very least. Even better, sump off and a first wash through with diesel. Best of all, engine out, strip and clean. One grain of that through a big end would score the crank. We need to know who did something that stupid to a TVR engine just to tart it up, that is well nigh criminal!
Richard, surely the possibility of the beads doing damage will be remedied by the oil filter?? I can't see them passing through that. However, I agree, that an oil and filter change is required immediately, plus a possible further change in a short space of time (200 miles) as an added precaution.
Also, I thought the sump plug was magnetic, so presumably this would attract the FOD?
Also, I thought the sump plug was magnetic, so presumably this would attract the FOD?
If these are blasting media I can't get my head round how they managed to survive to degreasing process, the dipping processes, post chroming inspection, the customer not noticing when they picked them up and went 'ohhh shiney, gimme gimme' then didn't notice when they put them back on the car and then managed to stay upside down in the covers for an unknown period of time... something just doesn't add up, surely at some point in this process someone would have looked inside
Marc C said:
If these are blasting media I can't get my head round how they managed to survive to degreasing process, the dipping processes, post chroming inspection, the customer not noticing when they picked them up and went 'ohhh shiney, gimme gimme' then didn't notice when they put them back on the car and then managed to stay upside down in the covers for an unknown period of time... something just doesn't add up, surely at some point in this process someone would have looked inside
Totally agree with you, something doesnt add up. Wish I could see and feel the grit to identify it properly. I still would have expected rusty muck in the rocker cover to be condensation rust. I am hoping Philpott sees this, he knows a good deal about Ford engines from garage experience.Sandgrounder said:
Richard, surely the possibility of the beads doing damage will be remedied by the oil filter?? I can't see them passing through that. However, I agree, that an oil and filter change is required immediately, plus a possible further change in a short space of time (200 miles) as an added precaution.
Also, I thought the sump plug was magnetic, so presumably this would attract the FOD?
Once they get to the filter - the damage could be done on route...Also, I thought the sump plug was magnetic, so presumably this would attract the FOD?
Marc C said:
If these are blasting media I can't get my head round how they managed to survive to degreasing process, the dipping processes, post chroming inspection, the customer not noticing when they picked them up and went 'ohhh shiney, gimme gimme' then didn't notice when they put them back on the car and then managed to stay upside down in the covers for an unknown period of time... something just doesn't add up, surely at some point in this process someone would have looked inside
Agree it's very odd but disasters sometimes happen because of a sequence of events where "someone else" was doing the checking - the swiss cheese model, sometimes the holes line up:
greymrj said:
I am hoping Phillpot sees this, he knows a good deal about Ford engines from garage experience.
Got me a bit baffled, do agree it looks like some sort of blasting media? I wouldn't expect swarf or debris from a component failure to be that shape!Filter should stop it getting to any bearing surfaces but of course to get to the filter it's got to go through the pump, not good. Pump has a coarse inlet strainer, it may get passed or it may block it if there's enough of it?
Minimum I would say is get (or make) a magnetic sump plug, standard plug isn't.
Change oil and filter (cheap stuff)
Hundred or so miles change again (good stuff) and see what the sump plug has "caught"?
Sump off and clean out is good plan but it's an engine out jobby, how far do you want to go?
Wise after the event and all that but if you bought it from who I'm guessing you bought it from he doesn't have the best reputation in TVR circles
Hi everyone,
I am very greatful to every response.
As I'm not equipped to take the engine out, I intend to change the oil and oil filter to start with.
Normally one runs the engine to get the oil warm before flushing the oil. However, in this situation I'm a bit frighten to start the engine and think it might be better the flush the oil cold. What do you think?
Does it exist a souple magnetic screw driver or a special tool that I could introduce in the sump so as to remove most of the 'beads'?
Where can I buy a magnetic sump plug?
What reconforts me is that the car seems to have covered very little mileage since its "restoration".
According to MOT history:
- to date 92679
- 24/09/2014 - 92566
- 11/08/2012 - 92497 (supposed date of MOT test since restoration)
- 27/10/2007 - 91169
So far, I've only driven it for about 5 miles, as it is not yet registered.
As I was checking the car for the MOT, I noticed that the left hand rocker gasket was leaking and decided to change it. Is this called luck?
Please keep posting your advice.
You are a very helpful bunch. Many thanks to everyone.
Best regards,
Geoffrey
I am very greatful to every response.
As I'm not equipped to take the engine out, I intend to change the oil and oil filter to start with.
Normally one runs the engine to get the oil warm before flushing the oil. However, in this situation I'm a bit frighten to start the engine and think it might be better the flush the oil cold. What do you think?
Does it exist a souple magnetic screw driver or a special tool that I could introduce in the sump so as to remove most of the 'beads'?
Where can I buy a magnetic sump plug?
What reconforts me is that the car seems to have covered very little mileage since its "restoration".
According to MOT history:
- to date 92679
- 24/09/2014 - 92566
- 11/08/2012 - 92497 (supposed date of MOT test since restoration)
- 27/10/2007 - 91169
So far, I've only driven it for about 5 miles, as it is not yet registered.
As I was checking the car for the MOT, I noticed that the left hand rocker gasket was leaking and decided to change it. Is this called luck?
Please keep posting your advice.
You are a very helpful bunch. Many thanks to everyone.
Best regards,
Geoffrey
Good evening everyone,
Here is the other rocker cover which I pictured as it was removed. The little brilliant spots that you see in the picture refers to the steel dust (beads).
I also discovered that there is a hole in the top of the rocker cover which was hidden by a transparent piece of sellotape. How can I obstruct this hole ? Any idea, suggestion?
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Thanks again for your precious help.
Best regards,
Geoffrey
Here is the other rocker cover which I pictured as it was removed. The little brilliant spots that you see in the picture refers to the steel dust (beads).
I also discovered that there is a hole in the top of the rocker cover which was hidden by a transparent piece of sellotape. How can I obstruct this hole ? Any idea, suggestion?
Thanks again for your precious help.
Best regards,
Geoffrey
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