New S2 in the family - engine mounts? Brake Discs?

New S2 in the family - engine mounts? Brake Discs?

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977

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448 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Morning all,

Pleased to note we have an S2 in the family now. Enjoyable drive back from Shropshire via many a B road. Few things are apparent, if anyone could shed a bit of light that'd be good.

Engine Mounts - What should I be buying here? Couldn't easily find anything.
Brake Discs - seem to have a fair bit of judder through the steering wheel on light braking from high speed. I assume this is discs related...? Worth just swapping them out?
Gear knob - Richbrook item was worse than just using the stick. I need a screw on gear knob, is it the same for all TVRs?

Some pictures:




greymrj

3,316 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Looks very nice indeed, interior looks 'mint' and I spot some nice after sales touches. Welcome to this friendly forum, I hope you will become a 'regular' both in the forum and at S owners gatherings and TVR events generally.

Engine mounts, haven't faced this recently myself but if no one comes up quickly with an easy answer I will dig back a bit. I seem to remember the Capri club had them available but someone else will know better.

Brakes, has the car been standing at all? If so I would continue to use them gently and see if they bed back in. As it is at high speed I wonder if the problem might be more related to wheels than brakes. These cars are pretty sensitive to wheel balance or out of round tyres which might not have shown up at the speeds concerned but might show more under initial braking. As these cars often get comparatively little use they can be on quite old tyres which can go out of round. Also the stick on balance weights do sometimes come off. Getting the wheels and tyres checked is always going to be well worth it on these cars and I would do that as a matter of course before delving further.

Gear lever. theoretically screw on but I think they all come lose with age. It matches the handbrake and hood struts so polish it and bond it on with something like Sikoflex, I did and I could still get it off when I took the engine out. Personally I wouldnt use araldite as it would be too rigid.

All the best, and enjoy any sun we may still get!

Edited by greymrj on Wednesday 29th July 14:10

v8s4me

7,234 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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977 said:
.....seem to have a fair bit of judder through the steering wheel on light braking from high speed.
Nice looking example and welcome. The cause is probably listed above but in addition, check over the ball joints, suspension bushes, ARB mounts etc ie any of the moving parts relating to the steering & suspension to see if there might be any play. Probably a simple fix and if the tyres are old it would be well worth getting a new set so you can enjoy the car safely. Old hard rubber and wet roads are not a good combination.

977

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448 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Brilliant responses, thank you. I'll spin through those. Capri club engine mounts look the same and at £9 each are probably worth a go!

Griffinr

1,017 posts

173 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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977 said:
Brilliant responses, thank you. I'll spin through those. Capri club engine mounts look the same and at £9 each are probably worth a go!
Rally Design do the mounts assuming that the S2 and S3 use the same mount as mines as S3. However if they are only sagged and not split or falling apart you can pack them using large C washers.
Rob

ChrisGadd

687 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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This is worth a read

XK140

179 posts

112 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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As stated above there can be various issues causing the judder but personally I'd go brake discs first since they are Sierra ones and as cheap as they come.

v8s4me

7,234 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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I've not actually used any Rally Design stuff myself so this is just hear-say but following a few threads about their stuff including engine mounts and, more recently, steering UJ's, you seem to get what you pay for, ie not a lot. If you're not in a hurry, and the existing one's have just sagged rather than split, then maybe try and source some better quality parts.

RayTVR

1,040 posts

142 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Welcome to the forum.

If not repeated elsewhere, having done the engine mounts, I found it a load easier to remove the anti roll bar (sounds like a lot of work but just disconnect the ends then four easy bolts)

The replacement of the mounts is then easier but you need a good Rachet spanner with a hinge.

v8s4me

7,234 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Info on the engine mount job here...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

And loads of helpful information on Mark's website here....

http://www.gbsportscar.com/

As you can see, Glen replaced his engine mounts in February 2013 with RD ones and does loads of miles, so he's in a good position to tell you how they have lasted.

glenrobbo

35,061 posts

149 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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v8s4me said:
Info on the engine mount job....

As you can see, Glen replaced his engine mounts in February 2013 with RD ones and does loads of miles, so he's in a good position to tell you how they have lasted.
Hi, I got mine from www.burtonpower.com

Pinto rubber engine mounts ( 52mm ) FP292 £8.95 each.
Very helpful, quick service and no complaints from me smile

I also made up a couple of shims from large square washers to give a little extra ground clearanceb( and ARB clearance ). Every little helps....

Welcome ti the forum and S ownership. Nice car you have there. I like you mirrors smile

Edited by glenrobbo on Thursday 30th July 12:48

greymrj

3,316 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Burton Power are a top company, I would certainly trust them.
Glen, how far do you think you can raise the engine safely? Mind you I think my stainless down pipes are so close to the cross member that any lift might be ruled out.

XK140

179 posts

112 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I see that this car was (and still is)advertised for sale on the TVRCC site.
From the extensive description I would say you got a real bargain there even if you paid the full asking price.

robsco

7,822 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Congratulations OP, you beat me to the car! I had spoken with my insurance company about adding it to the Cerbera's policy and was all set to make the call. At the money the car just seems an absolute steal, enjoy it!

glenrobbo

35,061 posts

149 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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greymrj said:
Burton Power are a top company, I would certainly trust them.
Glen, how far do you think you can raise the engine safely? Mind you I think my stainless down pipes are so close to the cross member that any lift might be ruled out.
Hi Richard,
I fitted the 52mm mounts and also fitted my 3mm shims, ar which point the top of the intake plenum was contacting the underbonnet insulation. The hockey sticks can be twisted about a bit to get clearance from the chassis cross-members.vThe S1 has the lowest exhaust to ground clearance of all the S variants, so every little helps. Loosening all the exhaust mounts and clamps also gives you a bit of play when you're positioning the hockey sticks. You'd be surprised how much movement you can gain or lose in the fore & aft directions.

v8s4me

7,234 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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XK140 said:
..I would say you got a real bargain there even if you paid the full asking price.
+1 thumbup

All the little issues mentioned in the previous owner's description are quite common and have been covered in many posts in the last few years so you should have no difficulty in finding the solutions on this Forum.

As regards engine mounts; a guy I know who races a classic E-Type told me that he and the other classic racers go to an industrial engine mount supplier to source what they need because they have a wide range of applications and the quality tends to be very good. Anyone else heard this?

phillpot

17,105 posts

182 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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v8s4me said:
As regards engine mounts; a guy I know who races a classic E-Type told me that he and the other classic racers go to an industrial engine mount supplier to source what they need because they have a wide range of applications and the quality tends to be very good. Anyone else heard this?
Some one like Polymaxwink

greymrj

3,316 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Many thanks Glen, I will have a look at doing that. I have already made some mods but, as you say, every mm on an S1 is critical. One little trick (shows you just how much that 1mm means) I did was I found I either had to have the Micelor clips with the screw touching the sump, or the head of the screw just below the bottom of the pipe. Then I found a stainless 'allen' screw had a lower profile, so I changed the Micalor screws to 'allen' and it has actually been worth the effort.

v8s4me

7,234 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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greymrj said:
... I found I either had to have the Micelor clips with the screw touching the sump, or the head of the screw just below the bottom of the pipe.....
So it's not touching the sump anymore is it?

977

Original Poster:

448 posts

183 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Thanks all - new to this bit of the forum certainly - although I've had a Chim for almost 6 years. =)

I've gone for the Capri club mounts as they seemed like a decent option but I'll report back, I may well need the other options if it doesn't bring the engine back to the right sort of position.

I did move quick on this one - saw it on a FB group Sunday and it was in the garage Tuesday night - 'accidentally' added 100 miles to the 170 mile trip in Shropshire, and a pub lunch in Clun. Really very cool.

Very different experience to the Chim - gear stick position and movement, and the morris minor clutch were interesting for the first couple of miles!

Few bits to do - want to check out the engine management a bit as it seems to be very sluggish to react to a throttle blip, and it's currently running with no IAC plugged in. Sure it will all come together though. Chassis seems to be rust free, goes well given a chance, and the interior is a nice place to be. Look forward to seeing some of you on the road - or at TVR CC stuff!