S3 Master Brake Cylinder needs replacing

[Rower]

Mine is the Saab unit and I am having a problem in getting a replacement does anyone have any sources ? The alternative is I guess to replace the whole lot with a Ford unit any advice gratefully received !

Guy

[mk1fan]

Mk3 fiesta items fit - servo and master - but are getting scarce. There's been a few on ebay recently.

master cylinder needs a 22.2mm bore.

I'm fitting a ford ka set up. Mk1 ka abs master cylinder coupled to a non-abs servo. A few have done this but there does appear to be some clearance issues as the servo is slightly larger.

that said should be doable for a home mechanic.

you could try big red for a rebuild kit for the existing master cylinder. Then get it stripped, cleaned, repainted and then rebuilt. Big red will do it for you.

[mk1fan]

Details of what I am doing in this thread

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Rower]

mk1fan said:

Mk3 fiesta items fit - servo and master - but are getting scarce. There's been a few on ebay recently.

master cylinder needs a 22.2mm bore.

I'm fitting a ford ka set up. Mk1 ka abs master cylinder coupled to a non-abs servo. A few have done this but there does appear to be some clearance issues as the servo is slightly larger.

that said should be doable for a home mechanic.

you could try big red for a rebuild kit for the existing master cylinder. Then get it stripped, cleaned, repainted and then rebuilt. Big red will do it for you.

Very helpful - thanks , who are Big Red that sounds interesting ?

[phillpot]

Rower said:

who are Big Red that sounds interesting ?

Big Red ...

[Rower]

phillpot said:

Big Red ...

Yep - got hold of Big Red , they couldn't help but put me in touch with a company in Suffolk called Past Parts and they say they can rebuild the part - not cheap but rather than changing the whole unit this suits me , just sent the old unit to them so watch this space ....

[magpies]

Rower said:

phillpot said:

Big Red ...

Yep - got hold of Big Red , they couldn't help but put me in touch with a company in Suffolk called Past Parts and they say they can rebuild the part - not cheap but rather than changing the whole unit this suits me , just sent the old unit to them so watch this space ....

Interesting.... look forward to the outcome (however I too went the Ka route)

[jwigglesworth]

Rower said:

Yep - got hold of Big Red , they couldn't help but put me in touch with a company in Suffolk called Past Parts and they say they can rebuild the part - not cheap but rather than changing the whole unit this suits me , just sent the old unit to them so watch this space ....

Are Past Parts based in Bury St Edmunds? I vaguely remember seeing an ad in1 of the classic car mags for a firm there that refurbs brake cylinders but never looked any further as, touch wood, mine are ok. Could be interesting to find out if they can do it & what sort of a job they do

[jwigglesworth]

Rower said:

Yep - got hold of Big Red , they couldn't help but put me in touch with a company in Suffolk called Past Parts and they say they can rebuild the part - not cheap but rather than changing the whole unit this suits me , just sent the old unit to them so watch this space ....

Are Past Parts based in Bury St Edmunds? I vaguely remember seeing an ad in1 of the classic car mags for a firm there that refurbs brake cylinders but never looked any further as, touch wood, mine are ok. Could be interesting to find out if they can do it & what sort of a job they do

[TVR-Stu]

jwigglesworth said:

Rower said:

Yep - got hold of Big Red , they couldn't help but put me in touch with a company in Suffolk called Past Parts and they say they can rebuild the part - not cheap but rather than changing the whole unit this suits me , just sent the old unit to them so watch this space ....

Are Past Parts based in Bury St Edmunds? I vaguely remember seeing an ad in1 of the classic car mags for a firm there that refurbs brake cylinders but never looked any further as, touch wood, mine are ok. Could be interesting to find out if they can do it & what sort of a job they do

according to their website.

[jwigglesworth]

jwigglesworth said:

Are Past Parts based in Bury St Edmunds? I vaguely remember seeing an ad in1 of the classic car mags for a firm there that refurbs brake cylinders but never looked any further as, touch wood, mine are ok. Could be interesting to find out if they can do it & what sort of a job they do

Did you get yours refurbed by Past Parts in the end? If so, how good (or otherwise) a job did they do and at how much?

Cheers,

Jeremy

[Rower]

jwigglesworth said:

jwigglesworth said:

Are Past Parts based in Bury St Edmunds? I vaguely remember seeing an ad in1 of the classic car mags for a firm there that refurbs brake cylinders but never looked any further as, touch wood, mine are ok. Could be interesting to find out if they can do it & what sort of a job they do

Did you get yours refurbed by Past Parts in the end? If so, how good (or otherwise) a job did they do and at how much?

Cheers,

Jeremy

Did a perfect Job , very helpful indeed , I just sent the seized master Cylinder but should have sent them the whole unit ( with the Servo attached ) because they were not sold separately only as the whole unit . However once we had established what had happened they did the rebuild and sent it back to me with a couple of pins to stop the piston popping out of the cylinder and it was then just a matter of removing them once the Servo could be re-attached . I cant remember the total cost but around £80 inc VAT ?

Give them a call they are proper engineers.

[NeilS3]

Still worth your while trying breakers for the original fiesta ones. I found two last year and they were as new condition with no rust.

[Rower]

NeilS3 said:

Still worth your while trying breakers for the original fiesta ones. I found two last year and they were as new condition with no rust.

That is fine if the original unit was from a Fiesta , Saab units were also used ( as on mine )and can't be interchanged unless you are going to re-plumb everything brake wise under the bonnet .

[phillpot]

Rower said:

can't be interchanged unless you are going to re-plumb everything brake wise under the bonnet .

I'd have thought the difference is minimal, enough "give" in the brake pipes to adjust them slightly?


failing that making up a brake pipe or three isn't the end of the World



....... and you'd be shot of that messy remote reservoir on the Saab set up!

[mk1fan]

And lose the risk of the plastic connectors on the bottom of the resevoir melting too.

[tvrgit]

phillpot said:

Rower said:

can't be interchanged unless you are going to re-plumb everything brake wise under the bonnet .

I'd have thought the difference is minimal, enough "give" in the brake pipes to adjust them slightly?

An extra Weetabix gave me enough strength to re-shape the brake pipes to fit - although admittedly the front ones weren't original, I had replaced those with copper ones previously (when the connectors to the flexipipes at the chassis en, fell to bits...)