REAR WHEEL SPACERS

REAR WHEEL SPACERS

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Niiige

640 posts

169 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Will you be fitting the Carlos Fandango Super Wide Wheels ?

Griffinr

1,017 posts

174 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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TurboTony said:
Mike. Thank you for the advice. I am thinking of buying hub buddies spacers from EBay which are supplied with longer studs:

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hub-Centric-4-x-108-63-4-H...

They seem much cheaper than other makes. The type with extra studs and nuts which do not need to have the original studs replaced would be easier but I would worry about the difficulty of of cheching the nut torque regularly.

Cheers
Tony
Hi Tony, did you buy the spacers? I have just bought and fitted the same ones. There is enough room to fit the studs but only just enough on the back ones with the hub in one position. The new studs are grade 10.9 and incredibly difficult to pull in, particularly on the back hubs. I relieved the stud splines a little as on the first attempt I stripped the grade 8 nuts I was using to pull them in.
Very pleased with the result, car looks better and feels surprisingly more planted on the road.
Rob.


ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Afternoon folks,

I got some Imolas given to me by a friend which I have just had refurbished in a medium shadow chrome. They came out a bit darker than I was hoping but still think they suit the car pretty well. I also think the chrome side of it will come out a bit brighter when there is some actual sun out!



The fronts are the same offset and tyre size as original S wheels, so no dramas there however the 16 inch Imolas on the back have a 10 cm bigger (i.e. closer to hub) offset than the 15 inch wheels and with the 225/50/R16 tyres they rub on the trailing arm even with the 5mm spacer from the 17 inch wheels that the previous owner had on it. I'm therefore going to need some hubcentric spacers and new studs.

So the question is, how big should I go and are there any peculiarities to changing them on the S? The offset difference is 10 mm between 16 inch Imolas (ET 35) and the S wheels (ET 25), so should I go with 16 mm spacers? Or given that they were rubbing with 5 mm spacers on should I go to 20 mm to be completely safe (so adding 20 mm total to the track)?

Until I get the spacers sorted (and my rough running problem sussed; that is this afternoon's effort!) then I'm back to the 17 inch low profiles on the back...


DamianS3

1,803 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Aren't the 16" imola wheels 7,5 wide?

If so you need to factor the outside edge of the wheel too.

Use a calculator like willtheyfit to calculate your spacer size. Iirc 25mm would be about right to get the wheel in the arch but can't find my notes right now

Thanks

Damian

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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The wheel studs are quite generous on the S (well mine were) so why not have knock up some various spacers from plywood or MDF and see how it all looks?


20mm might be pushing it but reckon the nuts will still catch a couple of threads with 10-12mm?



Guess even just a load of washers would do, obviously static test only!

ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Thanks folks, top advice as always. Hadn't realised that there was a calculator that takes into consideration ET and tyre width also so have just fed the details in that. willtheyfit.com says "Compared to your existing wheel, this new wheel will have an inner rim which is 16.4mm closer to the suspension strut. The outer rim will poke out 3.6mm less than before." so I will need to go with at least the 20 mm spacers.

From my measurements the current studs stick out 31 mm, so with the 20 mm spacers and 6 mm of wheel between the nuts and the hub it would only leave about 5mm (roughly 2 turns) to hold on to which I don't think I would feel overly comfortable with.


ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Mind you, having a look at the back of the Imolas they have slots for the bolt-on style spacer which they tend to use above 20mm so if there aren't likely to be major dramas going to 25mm then I'll probably get those and leave the studs so I've got the option to go back ET 25 wheels easily enough!

magpies

5,129 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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longer wheel studs can be purchased from the likes of Burton / Demon Tweeks etc

DamianS3

1,803 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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On my 25mm spacers the spacer bolts to the hub and the wheel to the spacer so no messing about with longer studs etc..

Thanks

Damian S3

ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Perfect, thanks Damian, 25mm it is...

h271mbk

42 posts

99 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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I fitted 10mm spacers to my S3 3 years ago,no problems; I may be imagining it but I'm sure the handling has improved and it's less twitchy. However, I ordered longer racing studs, I think they may have been from Burtons, which needed to be shortened slightly so they didn't bottom out in the nuts but I also found I needed to carefully put a tapered hand reamer into each stud hole to open the up a little before fitting the new studs as the splines were slightly larger than the originals.
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phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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h271mbk said:
I ordered longer racing studs
Found these but can't find any "racing" ones?


Are they better than the "ordinary" ones?

ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Out of interest, what is the total track difference between an S1-3 and S4/V8S?

h271mbk

42 posts

99 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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The ones I fitted were definitely described as 'racing' or 'competition' studs. In reality I think they were just 10.8 rated studs.
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GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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h271mbk said:
The ones I fitted were definitely described as 'racing' or 'competition' studs.
I suspect that either means they doubled the price, or they aren't approved for road use.

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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GreenV8S said:
I suspect that either means they doubled the price, or they aren't approved for road use.
laugh





ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Well an order for black anodised 25 mm bolt on hubcentric spacers went in this morning, so hopefully get the full set properly fitted by the weekend. I then just need to get it running...

ukflyboy

246 posts

116 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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My new 25mm bolt on hubcentric spacers arrived yesterday so set about sticking them on today however, in line with my motto "no job is ever easy on a TVR" I've run into a bit of an issue...

The right hand side went on ok and wheels sat about 1-2 mm outside the upper wheel arch, so 20 mm probably may have been slightly better and would have still given plenty of clearance on the suspension. On the left hand side however, the wheel sits about 20 mm outside the wheel arch! I swapped the wheels around to make sure it wasn't a wheel issue and it is the same with both of them; it's as though the LHS hub sits 20 mm further out than the RHS. Is that normal?! It's a bit of an issue as not only does the LHS look odd, it's an MOT fail having them stick out further than the arch, so can't be used in it's current state. Anyone able to provide any help or guidance?!


Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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Any chassis work done that could have had the trailing arm mounts put in the wrong place.
Not a MOT fail but the police may stop you
You could just get a refund on onewhistle

GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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Where do the original standard wheels fit relative to the wheel arch without spacers? The body is not remotely symmetrical and also may not be mounted on the chassis centrally so it's quite possible the car started out with massively different clearances between the two sides.

Whatever you started with should have changed equally on both sides when you fitted the spacers.

Edited by GreenV8S on Saturday 10th June 20:47