at the end of my tether with my 'S'

[greyhulk]

so after months of back & forth chasing up mechanics, waiting for parts, i get my 'S' back yesterday, could hear new fan auto kicking in thought great finally all the overheating problems solved! Then it went in red zone, fan had blew fuse and old wiring was a no no
Drove to city centre today, it conked out & wouldn't start back up for a minute (been doing this once every journey i take)
think im at the end of my tether with this 'S' i just cant seem to get anywhere near fixing it after all the money ive ive spent.. full service, new spark plugs, thermostat, fuel pump, rad recore, silicon hosing, oil change, water pump, 14" 12v kenlowe fan..

• update* overheating sorted, kenlowe fan wired in with correct kit, kicks in at 80°
• update2* split in air flow meter cap & mixture settings way out were causing the sudden conking out
• update3* continued to conk out within a minute or 2 of running, a corroded distributor cap may have been the culprit! Cleaned up refitted & ran smooth for now..

Edited by greyhulk on Wednesday 30th December 08:24

[Barkychoc]

Have you bled the radiator, the bleed valve should be at the top on one corner, and is your system getting up to pressure?
Pressure caps are a whole topic alone, but poor sealing of the pressure cap can be an issue.

Edited by Barkychoc on Wednesday 11th November 13:25

[mk1fan]

Is the gauge / tempsender working ok?

Infrared thermometre will let you know what temp rad is getting to.

[greyhulk]

Thanks for the replys, it was fine when I drove it yesterday,the problem was a blown fuse to the fan and mechanic had wired it with existing instead of new wiring supplied with the fan kit.

So for the first time 'overheating' solved
As for the conking out.. It's near the start of the journey everytime itll do it once, always at stationary traffic or at traffic lights

Edited by greyhulk on Wednesday 11th November 16:20

[DamianS3]

Is this just bad idle or is it perhaps cold..? I've does it die as opposed to idle.?

Or just it suddenly stop?

ISCV issue perhaps?

Cheers

Damian S3

[greyhulk]

DamianS3 said:

Is this just bad idle or is it perhaps cold..? I've does it die as opposed to idle.?

Or just it suddenly stop?
ISCV issue perhaps?
Cheers
Damian S3

It may just be that its cold as it happens within first 5mins of journey, and suddenly stops. It's ticking over fine tho & starts up 1st time when I jump in, but struggles once it's conked out

[keith-vznby]

It could be an issue with the temperature sensor in the ATM's swap the lugs as the system only uses the sensor in one of them swapping will use the other one in case there is a fault cheers

[greymrj]

It is a 2.8 S1, different problems to a 2.9.

I have PM'd you with some of the things you need to check. Get back to me. Shame you are over 100miles away or I would come over and we could do a parts swap and find it that way.

[greyhulk]

Hi, @greymrj I have replied back through email, thanks again for sharing your knowledge

Edited by greyhulk on Wednesday 11th November 19:36

[Barry S1]

Are you going to the NEC Saturday, 12am meet at the Tvr
stand, running hot is a S1 thing don't panic
about it

[greyhulk]

Barry S1 said:

Are you going to the NEC Saturday, 12am meet at the Tvr
stand, running hot is a S1 thing don't panic
about it

NEC is about 10minutes from me, is it ticket only?

[Barry S1]

Get tickets on the day I'm coming up from Essex, me and Glen have
S1s be good to meet up

[v8s4me]

Did the "mechanic" connect the fan up correctly? Is it blowing instead of sucking (assuming your fan is on the engine side of the rad)? Easily done.

[greyhulk]

yeah will try an make it on the Saturday then (and find the TVR stand)

@v8s4me the fans sorted now, it kicks in auto at 80degree's with no issues.

[Barry S1]

Easier to explain things over tea and biscuits

[TVRees]

greyhulk said:

... fans sorted now, it kicks in auto at 80degree's with no issues.

Maybe ask one of the guys to explain how to fit a fan override switch, so you can manually turn the fan on or off if required.

[greyhulk]

I did have one on previous fan, its still there just not wired onto the new stuff. Pretty sure there's a switch control on this kenlowe under bonnet for manual override (just in case)

[v8s4me]

greyhulk said:

... the fans sorted now, it kicks in auto at 80degree's with no issues.

It might well do, but if the wires are on the wrong way around it will be blowing hot air off the engine through your rad instead of sucking cold air through. So easy to check and discount if everything is at it should be.

[lewdon]

While investigating how to reset my distributor, I came across an article concerning a class action in 2002 against Ford for their TFI module, which I believe may be the same ones fitted to our cars.

“The models affected have ignition modules mounted on the distributor and are listed below. When its temperature goes above 257 degrees Fahrenheit, the module is likely to cut out and cause the vehicle to die on the road. When the vehicle cools down, it can be restarted and will run until it again exceeds the design temperature. This is a hard problem to diagnose because by the time the vehicle gets towed to the dealer or sits in the shop waiting for repair, it has cooled down and no cause can be found for the stalling.”

The full details can be seen on http://www.autosafety.org/ford-tfi-module-national... or found by googling Ford TFI Module National Class Settlement California 2002.

It occurred to me that this could be the reason your car cuts out when it overheats.

125Deg C is very hot and I dont know if the distributor would ever see this temperature on the S, but it might just be worth looking into if it still cuts out when you have fixed the fan

Best regards

Edited by lewdon on Thursday 12th November 00:12

[greyhulk]

@lewdon, thanks for the reply, its been cutting out way before any chance of overheating usually within the first 5mins of a journey. Now I got the fan sorted an temperature staying at around 80° I'll monitor if it still cuts out, I've been told to check the coils & ignition module so hopefully one of them may be the cause.