Hethel lotus test track retro event

Hethel lotus test track retro event

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trev4

740 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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MPoxon said:
Yeah I did note the no filming rule as well - shame frown

Slippery slope Trev... baffled sump and sticky tyres wink
Certainly is I have been agonising over upgrading the brakes for months, seems to me if it's a kit to fit inside the original 15" wheels my choice is between AP very expensive but generally considered the best or a choice between willwood,highspec or wms, probably still have the same brakes this time next year.smile

Top Gear TVR

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2,244 posts

154 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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My V8S has suprusingly good brakes for 240mm discs. I'm keen to see how fade resistant they are

Top Gear TVR

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2,244 posts

154 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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After a chat with his Scoobs, I suggest we plan (for those staying nearby) a suitable curry night at the local (mullet free) shapla. Anyone up for that?

AutoAndy

2,265 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Top Gear TVR said:
My V8S has suprusingly good brakes for 240mm discs. I'm keen to see how fade resistant they are
...depends upon which pads doesn't it... I had std at Blyton and they did start to waken towards the end...now trying red stuff... wink

MPoxon

5,329 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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trev4 said:
Certainly is I have been agonising over upgrading the brakes for months, seems to me if it's a kit to fit inside the original 15" wheels my choice is between AP very expensive but generally considered the best or a choice between willwood,highspec or wms, probably still have the same brakes this time next year.smile
You choices are limited if you want to keep the 15" fronts. I went for the Alcon kit from David Gerald (Classic World Racing) which fit under my 15" fronts as wanted to keep the car looking original. If you want to hear my ramblings then click the link below. Sounds like you are methodically and sympathetically modifying the car which is good for getting the best out of track days but without compromising it as a road car which is exactly what I am doing with mine. Baffled sump is a good investment as an insurance policy and certainly required with sticky tyres as the G forces will now be much greater.

https://matthewpoxon.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/brak...

mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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trev4 said:
Certainly is I have been agonising over upgrading the brakes for months, seems to me if it's a kit to fit inside the original 15" wheels my choice is between AP very expensive but generally considered the best or a choice between willwood,highspec or wms, probably still have the same brakes this time next year.smile
An alternative upgrade that will retain the OE look but still provide a good upgrade is to fit bigger brakes from the Ford range.

What used to be the 887/888 calliper upgrade - these are getting rare now and prices are reflecting this - can now be done with Fiesta 2.0 ST front callipers. Can usually be had for around £75 for a set including carriers off the bay of evils.

Add to that a pair of 283mm Sierra Cosworth discs - get them turned down to 278mm by an engineering shop - and some quality pads. Probably looking around the £200 mark all in.

The above should all bolt directly onto the upright. They even use M10 mounting bolts! You may need some spacing washers on between the upright and the calliper carrier to get alignment right.

Alternatively get some 278mm discs and fit a 10mm (ish) spacer between the upright and the calliper carrier.

Change of brake fluid and you're away. Not had any issues with the above set up on track.

trev4

740 posts

162 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Thanks for the advice boys, more to think about now. smile

jwigglesworth

400 posts

138 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Top Gear TVR said:
After a chat with his Scoobs, I suggest we plan (for those staying nearby) a suitable curry night at the local (mullet free) shapla. Anyone up for that?
Hi Steve,
can't make the event but would love to meet up (again after our chance encounter) at the Shapla. Would you let me know eta for that?
Thanks,
Jeremy

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Top Gear TVR said:
My V8S has suprisingly good brakes for 240mm discs. I'm keen to see how fade resistant they are
If you want to improve the quality of your braking and seriously reduce the chance of brake fade, change the fluid if it isn't fresh, and fit either Ferodo DS2500 or Mintex 1144 pads.

Top Gear TVR

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2,244 posts

154 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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currently green stuff.......fresh fluid though - as a result of new master cylinder

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Top Gear TVR said:
currently green stuff.......fresh fluid though - as a result of new master cylinder
I have no experience of those, but I did start my track day career on DS2500s and standard 260mm disks (late Chimaera) and never suffered brake fade.

QBee

20,980 posts

144 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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PS does your wooden air-brake help with stopping quicker? hehe

Longers

4,492 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Booked for 8th May
1.yosini - lotus thingy
2. Mpoxon - medium rare TVR Griffith with chips and all the trimmings (booked)
3. Qbee - TVR Chimaera and salad - I'm on a diet frown (booked)
4. Phazed - Full fat TVR Chimaera 5.5, but surprisingly quiet (booked)
5. mk1fan - TVR S3
6. Trev4 Chimaera 400 now with baffeld sump and sticky tyres,(booked)


Booked for 25th Sept
1. Longers : S3
2. Top Gear TVR in it or V8S
3. AutoAndy: S3C
4. Scoobimax - S3 (probable, just need to check work commitments now confirmed & booked biggrin)
5. tel595 - S3c for a gentle drive...
6. Mr Plow - Chimaera
7. Big Ian - S3

Scoobimax

1,892 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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QBee said:
If you want to improve the quality of your braking and seriously reduce the chance of brake fade, change the fluid if it isn't fresh, and fit either Ferodo DS2500 or Mintex 1144 pads.
I would echo that - used both those compounds in the past (on the scoobs) and a great balance for high temp with no fade yet work perfectly well when cold.

Currently running red stuff and they feel very similar

AutoAndy

2,265 posts

215 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Mr Plow said:
6. Mr Plow - Chimaera
...hang on....wrong car...! wink

Franksy

137 posts

130 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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8th May, booked inc tuition. Never done Hethel, my first event of the year.
Chimaera - now with new wheels, new R888's, new front brakes.
I'll probably drive up on the morning, see you all there.

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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I organised an event similar to this at Hethel a few years back. Be careful to scope your expectations is the advice I would give biggrin

The heritage part is the best.

Top Gear TVR

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2,244 posts

154 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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alex_gray255 said:
I organised an event similar to this at Hethel a few years back. Be careful to scope your expectations is the advice I would give biggrin

The heritage part is the best.
S, Track hmmm, whats not to like?

Top Gear TVR

Original Poster:

2,244 posts

154 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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should i book the 8th as well?

Longers said:
Booked for 8th May
1.yosini - lotus thingy
2. Mpoxon - medium rare TVR Griffith with chips and all the trimmings (booked)
3. Qbee - TVR Chimaera and salad - I'm on a diet frown (booked)
4. Phazed - Full fat TVR Chimaera 5.5, but surprisingly quiet (booked)
5. mk1fan - TVR S3
6. Trev4 Chimaera 400 now with baffeld sump and sticky tyres,(booked)


Booked for 25th Sept
1. Longers : S3
2. Top Gear TVR in it or V8S
3. AutoAndy: S3C
4. Scoobimax - S3 (probable, just need to check work commitments now confirmed & booked biggrin)
5. tel595 - S3c for a gentle drive...
6. Mr Plow - Chimaera
7. Big Ian - S3

Matthew Poxon

5,329 posts

173 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Top Gear TVR said:
should i book the 8th as well?
Yes!