V8s fuel pipe

V8s fuel pipe

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Bigpagey1

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41 posts

98 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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I have just been reading the steve Heath bible and I have got to the fuel pipe section. As a precaution I have checked mine and I think it is the original one and is weeping, a slight smell of fuel and traces of fuel on the fingertips. I have taken a picture and it seems very close to the exhaust system, even though it has heat shield on it, this cannot be the best way to locate it. ( I know welcome to Tvr ownership) has anybody replaced this with a braided system and truncated it away from the exhausts? The first of many questions I am sure. Chris

GreenV8S

30,195 posts

284 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Yeah, it's a nasty design. On mine I kept the same basic route but replaced that hose with a 13mm copper pipe, which gave me better control over the routing, let me keep it further away from the exhaust without constrictive bends, and gave me more space to add insulation. It also avoids having that hose dangling downwards and threatening to catch the scenery if I ever had an unplanned offroad trip.

mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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It is similar on the V6 too.

I've gone down the route of an in tank pump and fuel filter in the enginebay.

Deals with a number of issues in one go.

Did this by modding an alloy tank to take the pump. Got an alloy tank cradle too. Kept the sump of the tank to provide a collection point.

Doing the above means the pump and filter are moved from inside the rear wheel arch.

GreenV8S

30,195 posts

284 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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That sounds like a very smart move.

Do you have any problems accessing the pump if you need to replace it? That's just about the only thing the standard arrangement has going for it.

mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Access panel in boot.

Also added a top mounted level indicator too.

So pump and level float are on a single mounting plate on the top of the tank.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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mk1fan said:
Access panel in boot.

Also added a top mounted level indicator too.

So pump and level float are on a single mounting plate on the top of the tank.
Wish I had done that when the tank was out! Far better than trying to 'improve' on the current series of problems.

Bigpagey1

Original Poster:

41 posts

98 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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New braided fuel hose fitted and now out of the way of the exhaust. Onto the next job of rear brake calumets and the handbrake.

GreenV8S

30,195 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Don't want to worry you, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of insulation between the exhaust and that fuel hose. The overbraiding protects against mechanical damage but doesn't provide any useful insulation.

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Looks nice but never been a fan of overbraiding, can't see if hose is splitting/perishing etc. underneath scratchchin


Bigpagey1 said:
Onto the next job of rear brake calumets and the handbrake.
them "calumets" can be right buggers, good luck wink

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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It really is a piss-poor design. The early S1s were bad, and we had an S2 in the other day where the spigot on the tank was effectively aiming the hose straight at the exhaust! In the end, we used some alloy insulation cloth and then fitted some overbraid over the top to protect against friction caused by contact.

To be fair, the exhaust doesn't get that hot there, relatively speaking, and the maximum temperature rating of the hose probably exceeds 150deg C, but even so, it's less than ideal!

GreenV8S

30,195 posts

284 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Kitchski said:
It really is a piss-poor design.
yes

It would have been so much cleaner to bring the hose out the back of the sump and straight into the channel. Or put the pump in the tank and bring the hose out of the side where the fuel level sensor is. Or just about any other design. I can just imagine the face/palm when the designer saw where the YTS trainee had put it.

Bigpagey1

Original Poster:

41 posts

98 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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I agree that the design is piss poor, I have some heat shield which I shall be wrapping around the hose just in case. It is rated to +150 degrees so it should be ok anyway, better to be safe, at least it is not leaking fuel onto the exhaust now!!!!

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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GreenV8S said:
... I can just imagine the face/palm when the designer saw where the YTS trainee had put it.
Are you seriously suggesting TVR employed a "designer"? laugh It was more a case of "oh bugger, we've made the tank too high too take the fuel sender, never mind, let's just stick it in the side". The Land Rover sender unit was designed for a top of tank fitting which might explain why it can be a bugger to get it to give a correct reading.