S Crash

[Ceejay73]

mk1fan said:

As does the S3.

Not as standard, "bonnet c/w driving lights" was an optional extra on S3. £350 acoording to June 1990 spec and price list.

[phillpot]

glenrobbo said:

So what are the differences between S1, S2 & S3 bonnets then?

S1 doesn't have recesses above rubber bumpers for "chrome" strips

[glenrobbo]

phillpot said:

glenrobbo said:

So what are the differences between S1, S2 & S3 bonnets then?

S1 doesn't have recesses above rubber bumpers for "chrome" strips

I never knew there was a special recess Mike.
Every day's a schoolday

Elfit said:

glenrobbo said:

So what are the differences between S1, S2 & S3 bonnets then?

S2's are faster.....

I like your answer Tim, but surely an S1 bonnet would be just as fast if it was fitted to an S2?

I do like the clean lines of the S4 bonnet ( I believe they actually predate the S4 and were fitted to later S3/S3c's ).
However, they do tend to split along the line of slits at the slightesi frontal impact.


OK, we're narrowing it down gradually.
So what is the difference between an S2 bonnet and an S3 bonnet? Are they not the same?

Edited by glenrobbo on Thursday 3rd November 09:11

[mk1fan]

Ceejay73 said:

mk1fan said:

As does the S3.

Not as standard, "bonnet c/w driving lights" was an optional extra on S3. £350 acoording to June 1990 spec and price list.

So it was an S2 bonnet as standard? If not what are the differences between an S2 and an S3 bonnet?

The reason I was asking Graham was that it could have been a very remote possibility that what he refers to as an S3C bonnet was an S4 bonnet. Although this is very unlikely.

[LawrieS]

Mines an S3C bonnet, seem to remember a previous discussion with Richard and noting these recessed areas (to clear the wiper arms) not present on the S1, are they present on S2/S3? (Could well be that I'm imagining things and they are on S1 too?)

Hard to see from this angle...

[glenrobbo]

Hi Lawrie,
Percy ( S3c ) has them,
Austin ( S1 ) doesn't.
HTH.

[greymrj]

Comparing my car (S1 but with V8S bonnet) with Lawries and another S (on the Barn Farm run 2015?)we noticed quite a few subtle differences other than the obvious one of the different bulge.

The shapes of the openings at the front are more rounded.
The grill mesh is set back quite a lot differently.
The back edge doesnt have the same sealing arrangement to the body which helps hot air escape better and provides more wiper clearance.

(Damn, rest of picture files too big for PH and cant be bothered to reduce this late at night!!)

[Graham]

mk1fan said:

So it was an S2 bonnet as standard? If not what are the differences between an S2 and an S3 bonnet?

The reason I was asking Graham was that it could have been a very remote possibility that what he refers to as an S3C bonnet was an S4 bonnet. Although this is very unlikely.

Hi, no the s3c and the late s3/s4 ( not sure if they are exactly the same trying to confirm) are different.

the s3c has the round spots but its not smooth as it still has the bonnet air scoop.

I need to see how the late smooth s3 the s4 and the s4c differ. trying to find photos to identify though is difficult as bonnets have been changed and most phots
os are just labeled as TVR S...

I've started working with duncan as he is local to me so we can identify and locate what is available and what isnt.

[Graham]

LawrieS said:

Mines an S3C bonnet, seem to remember a previous discussion with Richard and noting these recessed areas (to clear the wiper arms) not present on the S1, are they present on S2/S3? (Could well be that I'm imagining things and they are on S1 too?)

Hard to see from this angle...

On the moulds i got from TET the s1/2/3 main mould is the same with a different scuttle panel ( presumably for these cutouts) and there is an add in section for the 2/3 for the rubber strip

[mk1fan]

I'm not sure there were any uncatalised S4's so they would all be S4C's - if anyone KNOWS then please confirm / refute.

So, to date, the bonnets are;

S1
S2 & S3 being the same as the S1 but with a different scuttle / seal arrangement.
S3C the addition of lower driving / fog light pods and a different profile of front vents.
S4 - side note of that I don't think there were any other variants denoting late S3, S4 or S4C bonnets - the removal of the bonnet scoop, raising the centre section to allow for side vents next to / behind the lights.
V8S - different bonnet scoop. Not sure if the centre section is raised as well as per the S4. Need to see one.

It was my bonnet that is fitted to the OPs car.

[mk1fan]

Off Topic,

Graham, are my Tamsion 400 bonnet vents on order? Not had a reply to my text from Monday.

[Graham]

mk1fan said:

Off Topic,

Graham, are my Tamsion 400 bonnet vents on order? Not had a reply to my text from Monday.

sorry yes my phone went flat when the text came through and then i forgot to reply should have them next week

[Graham]

mk1fan said:

I'm not sure there were any uncatalised S4's so they would all be S4C's - if anyone KNOWS then please confirm / refute.

So, to date, the bonnets are;

S1
S2 & S3 being the same as the S1 but with a different scuttle / seal arrangement.
S3C the addition of lower driving / fog light pods and a different profile of front vents.
S4 - side note of that I don't think there were any other variants denoting late S3, S4 or S4C bonnets - the removal of the bonnet scoop, raising the centre section to allow for side vents next to / behind the lights.
V8S - different bonnet scoop. Not sure if the centre section is raised as well as per the S4. Need to see one.

It was my bonnet that is fitted to the OPs car.

That list would make sense as thats all we can locate between my moulds and the surviving ex factory stuff.

I didnt think i could see the vents on the smashed bonnet ive been sent photos of, but looking again they might be.

the only other possible difference is the inner scuttle panel as again the photos of the bonnet ive seen and the mould look different where the catch receivers mount

[mk1fan]

Samy's 'S4' bonnet is burried behind a wall of stuff atm. Can take some photos when I dig it out but this will be sometime in the New Year.

[RayTVR]

mk1fan said:

I'm not sure there were any uncatalised S4's so they would all be S4C's - if anyone KNOWS then please confirm / refute.

So, to date, the bonnets are;

S1
S2 & S3 being the same as the S1 but with a different scuttle / seal arrangement.
S3C the addition of lower driving / fog light pods and a different profile of front vents.
S4 - side note of that I don't think there were any other variants denoting late S3, S4 or S4C bonnets - the removal of the bonnet scoop, raising the centre section to allow for side vents next to / behind the lights.
V8S - different bonnet scoop. Not sure if the centre section is raised as well as per the S4. Need to see one.

It was my bonnet that is fitted to the OPs car.

Not entirely. Mine is an S3 but has the spot lights in the lower part of the bonnet. This was an option listed on the order sheet.

[MisterTee]

RayTVR said:

mk1fan said:

I'm not sure there were any uncatalised S4's so they would all be S4C's - if anyone KNOWS then please confirm / refute.

So, to date, the bonnets are;

S1
S2 & S3 being the same as the S1 but with a different scuttle / seal arrangement.
S3C the addition of lower driving / fog light pods and a different profile of front vents.
S4 - side note of that I don't think there were any other variants denoting late S3, S4 or S4C bonnets - the removal of the bonnet scoop, raising the centre section to allow for side vents next to / behind the lights.
V8S - different bonnet scoop. Not sure if the centre section is raised as well as per the S4. Need to see one.

It was my bonnet that is fitted to the OPs car.

Not entirely. Mine is an S3 but has the spot lights in the lower part of the bonnet. This was an option listed on the order sheet.

Yes my S3 is the same - scoop and spots!
Andy

[greymrj]

Good to see this cataloguing going on. Just for possible reference, the detail on the front apertures and grill position on the V8S bonnet, which appeared different to all the V6S's we had together at Barn Farm 2015, is shown by this picture. Is that more curved arrangement, with the upper and lower openings directly in vertical alignment, and the grill mesh less far back, different to the later V6 bonnet?

[Niiige]

My S4c is exactly the same for both curve, alignment and mesh position.

[mk1fan]

MisterTee said:

RayTVR said:

mk1fan said:

I'm not sure there were any uncatalised S4's so they would all be S4C's - if anyone KNOWS then please confirm / refute.

So, to date, the bonnets are;

S1
S2 & S3 being the same as the S1 but with a different scuttle / seal arrangement.
S3C the addition of lower driving / fog light pods and a different profile of front vents.
S4 - side note of that I don't think there were any other variants denoting late S3, S4 or S4C bonnets - the removal of the bonnet scoop, raising the centre section to allow for side vents next to / behind the lights.
V8S - different bonnet scoop. Not sure if the centre section is raised as well as per the S4. Need to see one.

It was my bonnet that is fitted to the OPs car.

Not entirely. Mine is an S3 but has the spot lights in the lower part of the bonnet. This was an option listed on the order sheet.

Yes my S3 is the same - scoop and spots!
Andy

I think Graham would appreciate a photo of the front of both of yours - on the other thread though. If you have the driving lights and the triangular lower vent then you have a modified S2 bonnet. If you have the rounded vent then it is an S3C (as denoted on my list above).