Gearbox mount replacement

Gearbox mount replacement

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SteveOS3

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494 posts

192 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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As the whole rear suspension, Diff etc are off for overhauling I decided to replace the gearbox mount.....
I jacked the box up and the old mount came out with very little trouble. The new, though, won't go back in as the mount is taller by about 3/4".

I can't jack the box any higher as the rear of the gearstick linkage is touching the underside of the transmission tunnel.

I can't see any alternative to splitting the box and sliding it backwards to get the mount in.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated


Barry S1

1,709 posts

190 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Have you got the right mount sounds like its to big, cant remember
having a lot of trouble doing mine on my S1, i would check the diff
mount would be a lot easier now but you might need a mortgage to get one
wink
Barry

SteveOS3

Original Poster:

494 posts

192 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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The diff is out, prop shaft out, just can't get the gearbox high enough to lever the new mount in. The old mount was very badly worn.


TVRees

1,080 posts

113 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Do you mean the mounting which fits to the chassis,supporting the gearbox from underneath ?
If yes, the original part is FORD - 85GB6068AA
Is this what you have?

SteveOS3

Original Poster:

494 posts

192 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Yep, That's the one. The old one was so worn and knackd that it was ok to lever out with a screwdriver. The new is a lot firmer and won't lever in.

SteveOS3

Original Poster:

494 posts

192 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Yep, That's the one. The old one was so worn and knackd that it was ok to lever out with a screwdriver. The new is a lot firmer and won't lever in.

TVRees

1,080 posts

113 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I assume that the gearbox is still attached to the engine. Did you try loosening the engine mount bolts to allow for some extra movement?

TVRees

1,080 posts

113 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Although as you mentioned ....

I can't jack the box any higher as the rear of the gearstick linkage is touching the underside of the transmission tunnel.

...... my suggestion probably won't help frown. Sorry.

phillpot

17,119 posts

184 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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We need photo's wink

mentall

453 posts

131 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Mine was very tight: had to force the 'box upwards with a jack to the point of distorting the tunnel, and then lever the mount in with a very big screwdriver. And that was replacing the old mount! Good luck!

SteveOS3

Original Poster:

494 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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I'm thinking that's my only option. Just worried about damaging the linkage. Photos to follow later

phillpot

17,119 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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The linkage is far stronger than the bit of fibreglass you're pushing it against wink




Another option............... uprated gearbox mount

SteveOS3

Original Poster:

494 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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New on left, old on right.

Bought from Burton Power as per the link on the uprated mount suggestion.

Slight difference in height caused by wear in to old mount. Socket used to prop it for comparison.



Top view. Slightly larger flange on the new one. Maybe cutting it down would allow a little more play to get it in.



View from under the rear of the gearbox. The brownish metal of the linkage fouls on the shiny aluminium plate. The black of the rubber gaiter is visible. I don't know if the aluminium is standard or has been fitted to strenghten or fill in a gap in the fibreglass.




The old one was levered out by prising it away with a screwdriver inserted in the central bolt hole.

There was similar arrangement to the uprated suggestion whereby a plate bolted to the chassis below the mount had to be removed before access to the central bolt could be achieved.


mentall

453 posts

131 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Take the lever assembly off the 'box! Three screws and it lifts out: goes straight back in again after the mounting is fitted. You may need to drill a hole in the fibreglass tunnel to access one of the screws - use a long Torx key (like an allen key). My set came from Lidl years ago!

SteveOS3

Original Poster:

494 posts

192 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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I couldn't see any screws from underneath, are they on the sides/top of the plastic?

It's a 1992 S3 2.9.

Can you tell what type of gearbox it is from the photo?

Thanks,

Steve

Edited by SteveOS3 on Friday 16th September 14:59

mentall

453 posts

131 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Looks like a Type 9: current wisdom is that all 280/290S's have the Type 9 'box.

Here are the front 2 screws, viewed from above with the gearbox in place. It's the back one that I needed to drill the tunnel for.



You'll need to drop the 'box a couple of inches to lift the thing out. There's a plastic saddle at the bottom end of the lever: it should stay in place in the gearbox. But don't lose it (although it's available as a replacement).

Hope all goes well!

John

SteveOS3

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494 posts

192 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Ok, partially lifted centre console and can see the torx screws after removing an aluminium plate over what looks a second gearstick opening. Stopped now for beer and clearing thoughts before proceeding tomorrow morning.

SteveOS3

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494 posts

192 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Console lifted to reveal two ally plates. The rearmost is on top of the transmission tunnel, the frontmost is fixed below and secured by the two screws shown attached to the rubber gaiter.





Rear plate removed:



Front plate slid back to show gearstick:



Enough clearance now to jack the box up and lever the new mount into place.








All fine and dandy, except that the top of the gearstick now fouls on the underside of the fibreglass strip that was above the frontmost plate. It only grazes it but that means it's sitting about 6-8 mm higher at least than before.

Here's the link to the new mount, as per previous posts about uprated mount:

http://www.burtonpower.com/std-gearbox-mount-ford-...

Off to have a think....