Bonnet catches

Bonnet catches

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greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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johnnywgk said:
Now TVR do them this is probably useless information. They came from the Ford anglia
We came to the conclusion that this was a myth after examining some from various Anglias from E494 to 105E, if however you have more info and can identify the model it would still be of interest.

DJR 7

1,413 posts

257 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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johnnywgk said:
Now TVR do them this is probably useless information. They came from the Ford anglia
I spoke with Andy at TVR parts today, they only have one catch in stock and they are struggling to find a source.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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DJR 7 said:
I spoke with Andy at TVR parts today, they only have one catch in stock and they are struggling to find a source.
Damn, I thought they were getting them remade. Those on offer must have been a few old stock, probably found them from the jumbled lot they got from David Gerald TVR.

We have tried to find the source for some time and I have looked through various catalogues, automotive and comercial, and examined lots of cars in scrapyards and museums, and I have drawn a blank so far. I am pretty certain they were not made specially for TVR as the new ones I have ready for fitting some time have marks suggesting they have had part cut off from the original pressing. (There is at least one previous post on this)

MisterTee

319 posts

109 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Not sure how this compares in terms of size, but the mechanism is the closest I've managed to find that looks the same as the TVR ones.

http://fineparts.en.gasgoo.com/auto-products/21999...

It could be worth a rummage in a scrap yard for a Mercedes van to give it a try!

Andy

Edited by MisterTee on Friday 6th January 23:43

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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MisterTee said:
It could be worth a rummage in a scrap yard for a Mercedes van to give it a try!

Andy
Yes Andy, agreed they do look similar, at least the general operation is the same.
I spotted these but unfortunately I do not have any contacts within Mercedes and none of my van owning friends happen to have a Sprinter at the moment (or Crafter..they appear to use the same catches). Is there anybody out there who can check one out and get some dimensions?
The cable operation is in the wrong place but it looks as if there is enough metal to cut that off and drill and remount the cable in line with the mounting holes.

They appear regularly enough on ebay, unfortunately they are not cheap (Mercedes!) and the upper male section pin comes as part of an assembly so that isnt cheap either.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W906-Sprin...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W906-Sprin...

I am 'sorted' with new originals to fit but it would be worth someone else pursuing this if TVR Parts dont have a supplier.

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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greymrj said:
I am 'sorted' with new originals to fit but it would be worth someone else pursuing this if TVR Parts dont have a supplier.
Can't see them being a particularly "fast moving part" so possibly not top of TVR's priority list to source/re-manufacture...
scratchchin


You'd think someone somewhere, ex-factory or whatever, would know the source/donor vehicle?

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Hi All
Going down to the workshop today, will have a look to see if I still have my old ones, not sure if they were kept or not.

Alan

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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greymrj said:
We came to the conclusion that this was a myth after examining some from various Anglias from E494 to 105E, if however you have more info and can identify the model it would still be of interest.
I think the model is 104E. I bought some off Norman (Gerald TVR) ? and sure he said that. HTHs

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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phillpot said:
Can't see them being a particularly "fast moving part" so possibly not top of TVR's priority list to source/re-manufacture...
scratchchin


You'd think someone somewhere, ex-factory or whatever, would know the source/donor vehicle?
Agreed, little priority to source/remanufacture this part, they have more important stuff to source. If we found the source I think however that they would get some stock in if the price was right. I did ask the ex TVR factory purchaser and he didnt remember, the cars were 'past history' before him.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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johnnywgk said:
I think the model is 104E. I bought some off Norman (Gerald TVR) ? and sure he said that. HTHs
Very probably he did, Norman was heavily involved in alternative parts sourcing and we both accepted that myth.
The myth is even perpetuated on Google where our TVR latch comes up on a 104E search!

Herewith the breakdown drawing of the 104e bonnet assembly. It is front hinged and has a single, more typical Ford, hook type catch at the back.
https://www.smallfordspares.co.uk/plates/49-100e-b...

I didnt find any Fords with a pin type bonnet catch, more typically used by BL. I was hoping to find ours on a BL commercial but I had no luck there either.

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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That diagram is a 100e much older. If you eBay 104e and look at the pictures you can see the male part looks the same but can't see the female part grrrr.

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Forget that last post (I think) see 105e has been looked at and 104e is probably the same

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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johnnywgk said:
I think the model is 104E.
What is a Ford 104e ?

lewdon

316 posts

165 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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Wasn't that the old sit up and beg ford pop from the 50s? not many of those around now. (or in 1989/90)

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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lewdon said:
Wasn't that the old sit up and beg ford pop from the 50s?
Yep, looks like it was .... 103/104e


16642 doesn't look quite right to me?



lewdon

316 posts

165 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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How do you do that?

glenrobbo

35,257 posts

150 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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lewdon said:
Wasn't that the old sit up and beg ford pop from the 50s? Not many of those around now. (or in 1989/90)
I always thought that the "Sit up & beg" Prefect / Popular / Anglia was the E93/E93a, followed by the 100E, then the 105E.

Not heard of the 104E before. confused.
Was it the 5cwt Thames van?

glenrobbo

35,257 posts

150 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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lewdon said:
How do you do that?
It's Phillpot. He just does. smile

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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glenrobbo said:
I always thought that the "Sit up & beg" Prefect / Popular / Anglia was the E93/E93a, followed by the 100E, then the 105E.
So did I but not according to the link in my previous post? Numbering systems don't usually go backwards scratchchin


Without "Googling" do you know what the 109e was smile

TurboTony

908 posts

171 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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glenrobbo said:
I always thought that the "Sit up & beg" Prefect / Popular / Anglia was the E93/E93a, followed by the 100E, then the 105E.

Not heard of the 104E before. confused.
Was it the 5cwt Thames van?
103E/104E were the post war Popular although I do not know the difference between the two numbers ( apart from "1").

But they were called by the generic E93A when I was a youth, All the Anglia/ Prefect models had different E numbers.
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