Bonnet catches

Bonnet catches

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greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Well done Terry, must admit I hadnt seen that one. I did look at Jag fittings but didnt see one of those.

Absolutely no problems at all with it being off a newer car, on the contrary it should be an advantage.

I have very little info on Jag parts but there appears to have been changes during the XJ range and I think this maay have come in during series 2 and appears to be specific to the XJ only, which is a shame. However that would suggest XJ's from say 78 to possibly as late as 92. Frustratingly the one late XJ ref I can find doesnt seem to have that catch!

There are no XJ's amongst my contacts so I cannot readily check one out.
Anybody out there a Jag expert?

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I have just had some valuable information in from Adrian Venn, which will re respected by those of us who have had TVR's for any period of time. Thanks Adrian.

Aparently the TVR Grantura to Vixen used a modified Ford Anglia catch (which is presumably where the myth originated) and M series use a MODIFIED Land Rover defender catch which is very similar to the XJ6 catch. It would make some sense for TVR to have continued with these as they were readily available. They certainly look very promising. I have highlighted the word modified as there are signs of modification on the 'new' TVR ones I have.

https://www.btowstore.com/WebRoot/BT3/Shops/BT4142...

With LR there will no doubt be a number of different ones for different series but my prospective brother in law is a land rover man so he might be able to advise further. I seem to remember there is also an S owner who runs a Landrover as well??

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Have found 2 catches, 1 with bolts plunger and spring, 1 with no bolts and no spring but both are free so mods back off

Alan

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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greymrj said:
M series use a MODIFIED Land Rover defender catch which is very similar to the XJ6 catch.
Nearest camera is S Series, behind is Taimar (same as M?)




The edges marked are rusty and appear to have been cut, suggesting these catches had something cut off to make them fit the S ?



greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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The Taimar one certainly looks like the Defender item.
I take it there are marked difference to the S? One issue I thought I had detected was that the S catch has an integral return spring whereas the Defender one has an external return spring.
Yes Mike the cuts on the S one are consistent with the marks on mine and one of the holes in the end seems to have been drilled post manufacture. So it is a mod made by TVR on something made by someone else.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Can someone check something for me on this subject. I just took the bonnet catches off mine to fit new ones. I found spacer washers under them that look like a bodge. Can anybody tell me, should the face of the catch be below the level of the fibreglass, and if so by how much? Or should the catch sit down directly on the mountings?

magpies

5,129 posts

182 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Hi Richard

They definitely sit below the surface as I glassed over mine as didn't want to use them.

WhatamIgettingmyselfinto

64 posts

84 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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greymrj said:
Can someone check something for me on this subject. I just took the bonnet catches off mine to fit new ones. I found spacer washers under them that look like a bodge. Can anybody tell me, should the face of the catch be below the level of the fibreglass, and if so by how much? Or should the catch sit down directly on the mountings?
One of mine has washers underneath. Not sure if there is a correct answer, but remember the bonnet pins have adjustment to get the shut lines right.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Thanks Mick. Anybody else?
I have just tried the bonnet pins new from TVR. They are obviously NOT as originally fitted to the S (or at least not on the V8S bonnet I have) as the female threaded end that fits inside the bonnet moulding is too big and had to be cut down significantly. The pins however are considerably longer than the ones that were fitted.
So, did someone fit shorter pins, mini perhaps, and raise the bonnet catches up to meet?
Should there be spacers under the catches or not? confused

zombeh

693 posts

187 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Mine are very slightly below the surrounding bodywork, no more than 1mm by eye without getting any sort of measuring implement on something that's out in the cold.

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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I expect everyone will be slightly different so I'd suggest you put the catches back exactly as you found them.

mentall

453 posts

130 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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The plates of the catches on mine (presumably all original) are about 4mm below the level of the finished gelcoat surrounding them.
In spite of my efforts removing/replacing the bonnet, they've always worked perfectly.

The SHS tubes supporting the hinges to the chassis are 413mm from the ground, but that's because the car is on the lift. She seems to have adopted it as her natural habitat!

Sorry I can't measure anything else useful at the moment: at least until the dashboard and seats are back in and she's back on the ground.

phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Looks about the same as John's...............


really must get around to washing it, looking decidedly grubby after serving faithfully as my daily drive for a couple of weeks.

These must be one of the few parts I've never actually removed since owning this car!

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Many thanks gents, looks like mine should be further down than they were. As soon as the new stainless socket head screws wink have arrived I will fit the new ones. Only when I compared them did I realise just how battered the old ones were. It is an 88 car with probably 120k plus on it so fair enough.

New cables (yes 2 bike cables!) will be fitted with a cunning mod to the bonnet release (which was also badly worn)

Wherever safe I am going stainless socket head just to reduce the volume of tools I need to carry!

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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v8s4me said:
I expect everyone will be slightly different so I'd suggest you put the catches back exactly as you found them.
Trouble with that Joe is that I am changing catch and pins! I think I am going to take all the spacers out (as most cars seem to have the catches lower than mine were) and then do some careful measuring to see if they should engage OK. Cant try it easily as the bonnet is in the garage and the car in the tent...with no bonnet mountings yet!


GreenV8S

30,191 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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greymrj said:
I think I am going to take all the spacers out
I imagine that if the catch was too low, the mechanism might catch on the fiberglass, or there might not be enough space for the pin to go through. I have no idea how low 'too low' is, though.