Given a 2.9 Granada to break ....what parts to keep .
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Hi all , just been given a 2.9 12v running Granada Scorpio on auto .
Now I'm obviously going to keep the engine ,ecu/wiring harness , both afms and fuel pump , my question is what else is worth stripping off the car before it goes to the breakers .
Oh yes just remembered...will be taking the wing indicator lenses ...
Anything else ?
Cheers all.
Now I'm obviously going to keep the engine ,ecu/wiring harness , both afms and fuel pump , my question is what else is worth stripping off the car before it goes to the breakers .
Oh yes just remembered...will be taking the wing indicator lenses ...
Anything else ?
Cheers all.
Radiator. Because I think it might fit my Tasmin 
Also check to see if the handbrake lever is anything like the 'S'. You never know.
Hubs, dive shafts etc for anyone who might want to do a 5-stud conversion. What sort of wheels do you have? The Wedges are 15" and if yours are:-
PCD - 112mm
Offset - ET 23mm
Centre bore - 63.5mm (or 2.5")
They will fit a Wedge (and as it happens I'm looking for a spare
)
There's probably loads of little clips and assorted bits and pieces which might be useful. It just depends how much time you want to spend stripping them off and whether or not you have the space to store them.
Also check to see if the handbrake lever is anything like the 'S'. You never know.
Hubs, dive shafts etc for anyone who might want to do a 5-stud conversion. What sort of wheels do you have? The Wedges are 15" and if yours are:-
PCD - 112mm
Offset - ET 23mm
Centre bore - 63.5mm (or 2.5")
They will fit a Wedge (and as it happens I'm looking for a spare
)There's probably loads of little clips and assorted bits and pieces which might be useful. It just depends how much time you want to spend stripping them off and whether or not you have the space to store them.
Edited by v8s4me on Tuesday 31st January 20:31
fozzy280472 said:
... Regarding the diff , it's an auto box non 4x4 , is this likely to be a lsd that fits the s
It's difficult to say. I have a unit from a 4x4 2.9i Scorpio and I still haven't worked out what type it is. You'll probably need to take the cover off and see what's inside.This may help too ...... Sierra DIFF
SHutchinson said:
Are MK3 granadas useful for TVR owners? I may be called to assist in getting rid of one that's been stood for 15 years.
If it's a 2.8 or 2.9 V6, then yes, it could be more useful.fozzy280472 said:
Regarding the diff , it's an auto box non 4x4 , is this likely to be a lsd that fits the s?!
I don't think so.If the code is still legible on the tag (attached to one of the back cover bolts) there will be a couple of A's in the middle.
Does the steering column and switch gear show any resemblance to the Sierra bits used in the S?
Not sure about the switches yet mike , I will be picking it up hopefully at the weekend , regarding the diff , i searched and found an old thread about Granada lsd,s fitted to s series and it seems that it probably is an LSD ( apparently all the Granada's were so fitted up to 1994) but as you said there has to be A in the part numbers. Got to be worth checking out.
TVRees said:
fozzy280472 said:
... Regarding the diff , it's an auto box non 4x4 , is this likely to be a lsd that fits the s
It's difficult to say. I have a unit from a 4x4 2.9i Scorpio and I still haven't worked out what type it is. You'll probably need to take the cover off and see what's inside.This may help too ...... Sierra DIFF
SHutchinson said:
Are MK3 granadas useful for TVR owners? I may be called to assist in getting rid of one that's been stood for 15 years.
If it's a 2.8 or 2.9 V6, then yes, it could be more useful.SHutchinson said:
It's a 2.8. It's been stood outside for 15 years but only has 40,000 miles on it. Not an expert on Granadas but it's an E reg and is badged a Granada Scorpio.
Definitely worth saving the engine, gearbox, drivetrain and all the bits mentioned above, especially if it's the injection engine. Plus engine wiring loom complete with connector plugs and all the engine ancilliaries. Also relays, especially the pink/purple one if fitted, and the green ( kalt start ). ETA: Sam, if you do remove the engine, don't drag it about on its' sump, as they are easily damaged and are getting scarce.
Oh, and if it's been stood for 15 years, do not attempt to turn the engine over without first recommissioning it by following the correct procedures, making sure the bores are lubricated and the engine is not seized, or you could cause expensive damage to it.
Edited by glenrobbo on Saturday 4th February 13:31
Alan 1209 said:
Easy test for LSD.................
Not sure that holds true with a viscous LSD, which is what may possibly be in the Granada ?Robbed from an old post on diffs......
Extract from Sierra Owners site:
And a way to identify a LSD off the car.
Hold the input flange with your hand, with your other hand turn one of the output flanges (The bit where the driveshaft bolts onto, any one will do and it don't matter which way it turns)
Regardless on whether its an LSD or not the opposite one WILL turn in the opposite direction
Now the test (remember to hold the input shaft still so it don't move), if it is quite easy to turn the driveflange then its a normal diff
if it is bloody hard to turn (or even maybe impossible) then its a viscous LSD
SHutchinson said:
It's a 2.8. It's been stood outside for 15 years but only has 40,000 miles on it. Not an expert on Granadas but it's an E reg and is badged a Granada Scorpio.
If it's an E reg and badged a Scorpio it will be a 2.9. I've had a couple of 2.8 Grannies and they were the old square shape like a bigger Cortina - fab cars of their time! They stopped making them in 1985/6.
The jelly mould Granadas were either 2.4 or 2.9 V6.
Andy
Edited by MisterTee on Saturday 4th February 19:57
MisterTee said:
SHutchinson said:
It's a 2.8. It's been stood outside for 15 years but only has 40,000 miles on it. Not an expert on Granadas but it's an E reg and is badged a Granada Scorpio.
If it's an E reg and badged a Scorpio it will be a 2.9. I've had a couple of 2.8 Grannies and they were the old square shape like a bigger Cortina - fab cars of their time! They stopped making them in 1985/6.
The jelly mould Granadas were either 2.4 or 2.9 V6.
Andy
Edited by MisterTee on Saturday 4th February 19:57
SHutchinson said:
MisterTee said:
SHutchinson said:
It's a 2.8. It's been stood outside for 15 years but only has 40,000 miles on it. Not an expert on Granadas but it's an E reg and is badged a Granada Scorpio.
If it's an E reg and badged a Scorpio it will be a 2.9. I've had a couple of 2.8 Grannies and they were the old square shape like a bigger Cortina - fab cars of their time! They stopped making them in 1985/6.
The jelly mould Granadas were either 2.4 or 2.9 V6.
Andy
Edited by MisterTee on Saturday 4th February 19:57
1985-1987 jelly mould 2.8 Granada/Scorpios can be the rare 2.8efi. This is easily identified by the small alloy cover plate on the throttle body. It says electronic fuel injection. Most of these cars also sported those desirable alloy rocker covers. And the 2.8efi was the only 2.8 that had factory unleaded heads as standard.
Is it a better/unrated engine ?
No, not really, not in standard form anyway, especially with the very early type of eeciv ecu, which turned out to be not much better than the mfi. Although the induction hardware breathes well, so with some basic engine tuning & a good independent mappable ecu, good results can be achieved.
I know, I have done it !
I believe only around 800 of those efi cars were made.
TerryB
Is it a better/unrated engine ?
No, not really, not in standard form anyway, especially with the very early type of eeciv ecu, which turned out to be not much better than the mfi. Although the induction hardware breathes well, so with some basic engine tuning & a good independent mappable ecu, good results can be achieved.
I know, I have done it !
I believe only around 800 of those efi cars were made.
TerryB
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