V8s door mirror

[ianwayne]

There should be a strip of steel about 5" long with a kink in it riveted inside the mirror body. It flexes as the mirror body is turned and fits into those teeth you can see in your photo providing the 3 positions. On my last car, one had broken off so the whole mirror body turned instead, which I tried to avoid!

I'll add a photo if I find one.

[The Horse]

Thanks
A photo would be really helpful.
Does anyone know if these can be bought I do I need to find a salvaged part ?
Cheers
David

[phillpot]

Had my mirrors apart just last week, took a few photo's but none that show the springy clip thing too well.


This rather blurry shot is best I've got, red arrow is the point that engages with the teeth on the mount. If you still have one on the other side it shouldn't be beyond possibilities to use that as a pattern to bend one up from a bit of steel strip, might not be as "springy" but could do the job

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Edited by phillpot on Friday 29th September 09:59

[The Horse]

Thanks
As you say, I'll have a look at the passenger side when I get round to that and see if I can cobble something together for the drivers side.
When I took the speaker out of the passenger door, I couldn't see a connector for the mirror wires. Is there one or do I have to cut the 5 wires to remove the mirror ?
Thanks
David

[v8s4me]

There should be a connector but a previous owner (or garage) may have cut it off because it would have been easier to get the mirror off the door. Have a feel up the wires and see what you have.

[phillpot]

There should be a 5 pin multi-plug somewhere in there but it won't go through the hole so, if it's not already been done, you'll have to cut the wires or fiddle the pins out of the plug casing.

One for Penelope

[phillpot]

It's a big old thing, should be easy enough to find (if it's still there) , hand up and find the wires coming into the door from the mirror and follow them. you should find it or some concoction of connectors, crimps, soldering or something!


ignore the colours............

[ianwayne]

I struggled to find a good photo of that piece of steel I mentioned earlier, but 'lifted' this from a Marcos forum (another user of the CX mirrors!). Hope it helps:

[LawrieS]

The Horse said:

Thanks
As you say, I'll have a look at the passenger side when I get round to that and see if I can cobble something together for the drivers side.
When I took the speaker out of the passenger door, I couldn't see a connector for the mirror wires. Is there one or do I have to cut the 5 wires to remove the mirror ?
Thanks
David

If you tilt the glass in towards the top of the mirror there is a plastic tab at the bottom which slides to release the glass, two spade connectors to disconnect from the heating elements.

You can then remove the mirror motor, three screws, then from the rear of that unplug the connector, this connector fits through the mirror mounting.

No need to go rummaging around in doors or cutting wires

[ianwayne]

That just gives access to the inside of the mirror body wiring. If the motor wiring drops through the door top, you'll still need access inside the door to get it back. The speaker removal is a doddle after all.

I know this a S series thread but these mirrors are used on the Chimaera and Griffith too. If a later model with the door release button, you still need access to the wiring inside the door.

Edited by ianwayne on Saturday 30th September 08:46

[The Horse]

I changed the boss on the driver's side last week and have just tried to twist the passenger side mirror off the door but the mirror fouls on the glass and frame. How can I turn it anticlock wise to unscrew it ?
I've already pushed all the wires out of the connector that I eventually found cable tied high up inside the door but can't see how to rotate the mirror head passed the door window frame.
Any advice ?
David

[v8s4me]

You need to remove the mirror from the boss. Unscrew the little grub-screw and remove the mirror (you'll need to dismount the connector the get the wires through the hole in the boss). Then use a stiltsons or similar to unscrew the boss from the door. Be careful you don't break the bonding between the boss socket and the door moulding or scratch the paint.

[LawrieS]

I don’t understand what’s happening here, do you need to change the bit that fits to the door or the bit that (snaps when you reverse into your new smaller garage) fits to your mirror?

Swapped mine in approx 15 mins last weekend, my mirror mounts have at some point been modified to give easier access to the grub screw but nothing else differs from what i can tell.

Once you have removed the glass and the motor from the mirror you can remove the (breakable) mount via it’s torx screw from inside the mirror.

Can you post a pic or two?

Lawrie

[The Horse]

The problem is that you can get to the grub screw until for have fitted Brian's kit. On the drivers side I simply turned the mirror anti-clockwise and the boss came out of the door (after disconnecting the wires from the connector inside the door so the wires could turn too.
One the passenger side the mirror fouls the door window frame and so I cannot simply turn it anticlockwise and I can't see the grub screw to locate it or undo it.

[v8s4me]

You have to get at the grub screw so I'd suggest turning the mirror clockwise and see if you can get at it.

I know it sounds a bit counter-intuitive but unless the boss will wind out with the mirror you have no other option.

[The Horse]

Thanks for all the advice.
I eventually managed to rotate the mirror by drilling a hole into the round tube like plastic trim of the mirror so I could insert a screwdriver and use the screwdriver to turn the mirror.
As a result I could access the grub screw and undo it and remove the mirror head from the boss in the door.
I then had a difficult time removing the boss from the door. I tried to use Brian's tool (designed to fit his extended boss into the door) but feared the tool would slip out of the boss and I would damage the door so after carefully masking the surrounding area, I used a stillson wrench to get the old boss out of the door.
I have fitted Brian's new extended boss and am ready to reassemble the mirror to the car.
Has anyone got one of the original plastic trims that they would be willing to part with as mine is now damaged ?? I know some people have fitted longer trims in either SS or plastic but I'm trying to keep the car as original as possible.
Also, has anyone got an old broken mirror they would be dismantle as I'm after the small bit of metal shown in ianwayne's photo which I copy below.



The part is riveted to the aluminium part of the mirror head. I'm looking for the driver's side one in case they are handed. I discovered the part is missing from my driver's mirror when I removed it to fit Brian's longer boss kit.
Thank you
David

[Steve_D]

The Horse said:

......... I know some people have fitted longer trims in either SS or plastic but I'm trying to keep the car as original as possible.........

If you keep the existing plastic shroud you use the foam infill supplied with the kit so you are non standard anyway. If you make a replacement from plastic or SS you can spray it matt black and it will look more 'original' than with the foam.

Steve

[The Horse]

Point taken
I've ordered the plastic nozzle suggested by phillpot, just one to start with to see how it goes.
But I do want to try and replace the metal part that mine is missing from my driver's mirror at the same time rather than have to take it all apart again.
David

[Steve_D]

So what it should look like.


Something I made today.


Steve

[The Horse]

Thanks, a helpful suggestion.
Have you made that for your own mirrors ?
On the original, the "sprung" metal rests against another part of the mirror structure to prevent all the stress being on the mounting rivet.
David