S Series Petrol Filler Caps !!!!!!

S Series Petrol Filler Caps !!!!!!

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Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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NEWS

I have a provisional price for a complete Filler Cap (all companants) in 316 Stainless Steel expected price is £100 assuming there are sufficient takers between ourselves and the Scimitar guys.

Price is high because of the tooling costs.

So please indicate if you are interested at £100 we will still need to ensure quality is high. The end result will be First class

Norman

tubbystu

3,846 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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I'm in thumbup

Cheers

jwoffshore

460 posts

254 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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I'm quite surprised at how cheap it is for a complete stainless item. It just goes to show the economics of manufacturing in China/India or wherever it was. Also brings into sad perspective why so many engineering companies are closing down in this country.

Anyway, I will certainly purchase one of these caps, assuming production goes ahead and the quality/function is acceptable.

Thanks for such a good initiative.

Regards, JW

TVRMadPaul

101 posts

197 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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I'm skint this month as my coop needs new front brakes otherwise I'd jump at this ?
When would payment be required ?

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

197 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Hi paul

A month or two I guess, so no problems

TVRMadPaul

101 posts

197 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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OK If you can wait until the 24th Apr then count me in if not PM me before you make the order and I'll see if the purse strings can be loosened. Sorry I can't be more committed at this stage.

mannik

205 posts

215 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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would depend on the quality....but yes I would be interested

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

197 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Quality will be first class

grahamS2

36 posts

187 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Hi, Add me to the list
Graham

Oldred_V8S

3,715 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Me too please.

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

197 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Bad news we ahve heard from the potential manufacturer and he is no longer prepared to use stainless steel but would manufacture in Marzak (as the original)

Good news price would drop

I will update price etc asap

Norman

goff

17 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Hi Lads,

Very sory for the delayed update on the fuel caps but hopefully this will answer your questions.

We have found a suitable manufacturer in China for the cap, the tooling costs are quite high due to the number of compontnts and the manufacturing process, the financial side has been agreed in principle but of course it is a numbers game (the more caps the cheaper).

I will advise more on price when we are nearer to manufacture but I want the price to come down.

The initial quote was for an exact copy of the original cap (Mazak) not 316 Stainless...

Everyone on this site and the Scimitar guys are all for the cap but the quality is paramount (and I agree) My dilemma and it is stopping this moving forward is this, You pay the tooling up front, you sign off the sample cap for quality & function and then were in business, However how do I guarantee the cap finish in 6 / 12 / 24 / 60 + months time ??

I am in the process of discussing this problem with the manufacturer and will let ya know when I have something concrete, THIS IS JUST A HURDLE AND THE CAP IS BY NO MEANS DEAD,

Do i have any volunteers to go out for 4/5 days and have the time of your life, then sign off the new cap!! ;o)

All the best

Mick

P.S. now on the lookout for a Griffiths (the early one)



GreenV8S

30,204 posts

284 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Given that the proposed design is the same as the originals, wouldn't you get the same end result for rather less time and money buy having the existing cap cleaned, polished and rechromed?

TVRMadPaul

101 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Can we find another manufacturer prepared to do it in stainless steel ? Think I'd be less interested if made from the original as I have been quoted £60 for a rechrome.

goff

17 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Hi Paul,

Ni Hao'

I too would prefer a Stainless Cap possibly with a locking mechanism but explaining this with the language barrier is quite difficult, however I will try again my other problem is that both of my spare caps are now with manufacturers in China and they won't post them to another possible supplier.

One of the ideas I have is to have just the cap face and the trigger mechanism copied in 316 Stainless but this will be quite a task as the originals were die cast and it will necessitate a lot of machining to make a suitable replacement.

Many people have had caps re-chromed but the finish is either poor from the start or they have pimples quite quickly, the caps are quite straight forward to strip for chrome but remember the pins on come out in one direction.

Hope this helps.

Mick

P.S. I'm sure we could not have picked a more complex item to start this ball rolling.!!

mep12345

2,061 posts

201 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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goff said:
Hi Paul,

but explaining this with the language barrier is quite difficult
I am currently working with a member of the chinese air force, if you would like me to ask him to translate something for you email me (mark@gbsportscar.com) and I'll see if he'll do it. His technical English is very good (he was the one individual selected from all their armed forces to study in the UK) so it may alleviate the problem above.

Bothing ventured nothin gained and all that

Mark

goff

17 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Hi Mark,

Many thanks for the kind offer, I'm in Ireland until the 30th but if you xould explain to your friend -

I would like them to quote in manufacturing the cap face and the trigger mechanism in high quality Stainless Steel, this would mean that all of the visible area of the cap would be stainless steel.

I do hope this makes sense, it would appear to be the way forward as different people are after different cap specs and with top quality stainles steel at least we should be able to overcome the longevity problem.

Should you want any more detail please feel free to contact me.


All the best

Mick


mep12345

2,061 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Will work out some words and pictures over the weekend and ask him on Monday. We are on leave for two weeks after that unfortunately, but hopefully I'll get something before then for you.

goff

17 posts

183 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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HI Mark,

no problem, I will just see what pans out in the meantime.

All the best

Mick

mep12345

2,061 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Have actually worked out some words and got a rough translation, my collegue wants to discuss the fine detail tomorrow, so should have a full translation for you by the weekend. I'll mail the words to the email address you emailed me from.

Apparently Stainless Steel is not something that translates that easily.

Mark