K&N filter set up S2 1990 Yes? No?

K&N filter set up S2 1990 Yes? No?

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TVRDAVE

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89 posts

247 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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Hi To my S2 connections. The air intake Filter on my 1990 2.9 S2 (gave all that info incase needed) is dirty looking and I would like to replace it with a K&N filter. I have noticed that it has a tube leading into the middle of the foam filter, I'm assuming that a K&N wouldn't have this and I haven't had a really good look at it yet to see what this hose dose. My car is put away for the winter and I can't get at it right now. Has anybody made this change over? Can I get pictures from anybody? How is it done? Where can I get one if I can at all?


Dave from Canada

John Mac

386 posts

264 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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Hi Dave,
Happy New Year .
I assume the present filter you have fitted is a Pipercross one?
At my last service I did enquire about changing to K & N but was told that the mounting plates and a few other things would be needed to change over and from an efficiency point of view there would be no benefit so I didn't bother. The pipe you mention going into the filter is the oil breather pipe from the rocker covers, if you did go to K&N you would have to allow for this.
I think there are a few earlier threads on this subject.
Cheers.

mel-S3

176 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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John Mac said:
The pipe you mention going into the filter is the oil breather pipe from the rocker covers, if you did go to K&N you would have to allow for this.


If you fit a replacement Piper cross filter (original), this also doesn’t have the hole for the breather pipe from the rocker cover. You have to cut it yourself and change over the pipe fittings.

You can avoid cutting this hole, while also discarding the ugly breather pipe, by fitting a K&N rocker cover breather filter like i did. This pushes on the oil filler cap, where the breather pipe fits. I have a photo of it somewhere, if you want to see it.

AlanM

15 posts

261 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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Mel.
I have a similar arrangement on my S2 and would like to tidy it up, so I would be keen to see a photo of the K&N rocker cover breather filter and any info you may have as to current availability.
Regards
Alan.


>> Edited by AlanM on Sunday 28th December 23:36

TVRDAVE

Original Poster:

89 posts

247 months

Tuesday 30th December 2003
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Mel I would love to see the pictures please. I had a K&N breather on my Essex in my 3000M and then my 5000M (Same car blew up the Essex put in a 5.0 Mustang Motor). Have you had any oil leaks from the K&N filter set up?


Dave

mel-S3

176 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th December 2003
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Hope these picies give you some idea of the filter.
I bought it about February last year, mail order from Demon Tweeks. It works great, no leaking oil.

The codes on the box were as follows, product code: K/N62-1330 Description: Breather (CR-01301) 03E05
I think the First set of letters/numbers is the K&N part number.





Edited to say, Demon Tweeks does international sales

>> Edited by mel-S3 on Tuesday 30th December 13:29

spivvy

1,534 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th December 2003
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i actually got a larger bore filter that fitted straight onto the rocker cover so i don't have the plastic filter cap now, I will try and get a picture up shortly




>> Edited by spivvy on Saturday 3rd January 15:57

TVRDAVE

Original Poster:

89 posts

247 months

Wednesday 31st December 2003
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I look forward to all and any pictures.


Dave

LeeBee

773 posts

285 months

Wednesday 31st December 2003
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Here are a couple of pictures of the K&N 57i kit I fitted to my S2 a few years ago now




Each airflow meter has it's own filter and requires a complete new bracket assembly to be made for the airflow meters (the airflow meters need to be spaced apart as the filters have quite a large diameter at the back end).This is actually quite involved as clearance is required for the electrical connections to the meters.

The other downside is that they are very expensive (I seem to remember mine were about £120+ for the kit) and a lot of that expense is a bracket (for the Ford) that is useless.

Another way of looking at it is that TVR use (or used) Pipercross filters on 450bhp Tuscan race cars so they must be pretty good, the replacement S filter is about £40 from a dealer...............

Cheers

LeeBee

Rozza!!!

654 posts

277 months

Friday 2nd January 2004
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What have you used as the battery strap there Lee??

Roy.

LeeBee

773 posts

285 months

Friday 2nd January 2004
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The battery cover is from a Vauxhall Astra (latest shape) the red strap I think was from one of those hand pump pressure sprayers you get from B&Q etc!, not 100% sure as these pics are about 4 years old

Cheers

LeeBee

Chingers

136 posts

284 months

Friday 2nd January 2004
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Regarding battery straps B&Q do pairs of Velcro straps 50mm x 900mm which appear to be ideal - mine have been on for about 2 months and still with no problem. You do get a bit of stretch to start with so they need to be retightened after a week.

spivvy

1,534 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd January 2004
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i used a clip strap from and old sports bag you could you a small suticase strap also (not leather though)


TVRDAVE

Original Poster:

89 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd January 2004
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Well from Air filters to battery straps. Works for me. Watch when you are using Velcro straps. Velcro and most car fluids will not get along very well. Most Petrol based products will start a slow and sometimes not so slow decay of the Velcro. Just keep an eye on it. I use it a lot in business and learned the hard way.


Dave

GreenV8S

30,214 posts

285 months

Saturday 3rd January 2004
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Nylon webbing strap with a metal ratchet handle is your best bet. Easily strong enough, can't rip loose in the event of an accident and they're resistant to battery acid too. They're sold all over the place as cargo straps.

Rozza!!!

654 posts

277 months

Saturday 3rd January 2004
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I've had a look at the cargo straps idea before but never found one small enough - the only ones I could find were like 5-10m long and about 50mm wide which would look a bit silly IMO. Have I just not looked hard enough? Do you have this set-up on yours?

Roy.

spivvy

1,534 posts

255 months

Saturday 3rd January 2004
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here they are




>> Edited by spivvy on Saturday 3rd January 16:08

TVRDAVE

Original Poster:

89 posts

247 months

Saturday 3rd January 2004
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Thanks Spivvy. That is want I was looking for. That looks like it would be an easier fit than the K&N but is it as good a filter? The front one I mean I assume that is the Piper. How much are they and has anybody got a web site to buy on from? I also assume that they are washable?

spivvy

1,534 posts

255 months

Sunday 4th January 2004
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TVRDAVE said:
Thanks Spivvy. That is want I was looking for. That looks like it would be an easier fit than the K&N but is it as good a filter? The front one I mean I assume that is the Piper. How much are they and has anybody got a web site to buy on from? I also assume that they are washable?


got mine from demon tweeks it is a kk300/100 element product code P/CC3004

it cost £27.04 +VAT + £3.49 delivery
it is a straight replacement and fits straight on and is washable ,
i am not sure about the rocker cover breather it's a K&N part i think ?
i will try and dig out the box as i got it from a local motor factors it was quite expensive around £20.00 or more can't remember Hope that helps

Rozza!!!

654 posts

277 months

Sunday 4th January 2004
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To answer your question re whether or not the Pipercross filter is as good as a K&N, I was told by a shop that I had gone into to buy some K&N filters from that the Pipercross ones were as free flowing as you could get so therefore must be at least equally as good as the K&N filters.

Roy.