Ford Braking System for TVR S Series Cars Updated

[Gerald-TVR]

I have been doing some research (based on Richard Jarvis’s greymrj original work plus input from others including Ragtop, sighck and Bristol Street Motors Worcester) on the master cylinder question and have identified the following information. I believe the information to be correct but if you wish to follow the advice, then be aware that you do so entirely at your own risk. Update to original post.

Master Cylinder 1

Includes reservoir (required if converting from SAAB) and pressure regulating valves (not required)



Part Numbers

OE 7117259 (available from Ford dealers at £148.36 + VAT locally)
Girling 4006247
TRW PMH 247
Apec MCY 321

Vehicle fitting information

Vehicle (All non ABS)	Model Year	Engine Capacity
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4	03.89 – 12.95	1391
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4	03.89 – 12.95	1391
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4 CAT	03.89 – 12.95	1391
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4	11.92 – 12.96	1392
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.8 D	03.89 – 12.95	1753
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.8 TD	03.93 – 12.95	1753
Fiesta Box (FVD) – 1.8 D	03.89 – 12.95	1753
Courier Box (F3L, F5L) – 1.8 D	09.91 – 02.96	1753

Master Cylinder 2

Includes reservoir (required if converting from SAAB) but does not include pressure regulating valves



Part Numbers

OE 7117260 (available from Ford dealers at £136.17 + VAT locally)
Girling 4006246
TRW PMH 246
Apec MCY 301

Vehicle fitting information

Vehicle (All non ABS)	Model Year	Engine Capacity
Fiesta Box (FVD) – 1.3	04.91 – 08.95	1297
Fiesta Box (FVD) – 1.8 D (FVJ)	03.89 – 12.95	1753
Fiesta Box (FVD) – 1.8 TD	07.93 – 08.95	1753
Courier Box (F3L,F5L) – 1.3	09.91 – 02.96	1299
Courier Box (F3L,F5L) – 1.8 TD	07.93 – 08.95	1753
Courier Estate (FV3) – 1.3	11.91 – 07.94	1297
Courier Estate (FV3) – 1.8 D	11.91 – 07.94	1753
Courier Box (F3L, F5L) – 1.8 D	09.91 – 02.96	1753

Master Cylinder 3

No reservoir or pressure regulating valves suitable as a replacement for the original Ford part as fitted to S3, S4 and V8S



Part Numbers

OE 6170668 (available from Ford dealers at £136.17 + VAT locally)
Girling 4006368
TRW PMH 368
Apec MCY 302

Vehicle fitting information

Vehicle (All non ABS)	Model Year	Engine Capacity
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) - 1.6 XR2i	03.89 - 03.93	1598
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) - 1.6 XR2i	03.89 - 01.94	1597
Fiesta Box (FVD) - 1.3	04.91 - 08.95	1297
Fiesta Box (FVD) - 1.8 D (FVJ)	03.89 - 12.95	1753
Fiesta Box (FVD) - 1.8 TD	07.93 - 08.95	1753
Courier Box (F3L,F5L) - 1.3	09.91 - 02.96	1299
Courier Box (F3L,F5L) - 1.8 TD	07.93 - 08.95	1753
Courier Estate (FV3) - 1.3	11.91 - 07.94	1297
Courier Estate (FV3) - 1.8 D	11.91 - 07.94	1753

Brake Servo

Part Numbers

OE 1666345 (available from Ford dealers at £142.61 + VAT locally)
Girling 4110328
TRW PSA 328

Vehicle fitting information

Vehicle (All non ABS/RHD)	Model Year	Engine Capacity
Fiesta Mk II (FBD) – 1.3 (FBD)	09.83 – 01.87	1296
Fiesta Mk II (FBD) – 1.3	09.83 – 09.89	1297
Fiesta Mk II (FBD) – 1.6 D (FBD)	04.84 – 02.89	1608
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.0	03.89 – 12.95	1001
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.1	03.89 – 12.95	1119
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.1	03.89 – 12.95	1119
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.3	03.89 – 12.95	1297
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.3	03.89 – 12.92	1299
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.3 CAT	05.91 – 01.97	1299
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4	03.89 – 12.95	1391
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4	03.89 – 12.95	1391
Fiesta Mk III (GFJ) – 1.4 CAT	03.89 – 12.95	1391

[Barkychoc]

Great reference Norman, have you asked for it to be added to FAQ's?

Also don't forget you will need a standard bleed screw to cap off the unused hydraulic output.

[mep12345]

good work again Norm

[Ojbrit]

So just to be clear, I can use either one of these three on my V8S? It looks like it to me but want t be sure.
Sorry if it's a dumb question!!,
Thanks for all the comments
Owen

[Gerald-TVR]

Ojbrit said:

So just to be clear, I can use either one of these three on my V8S? It looks like it to me but want t be sure.
Sorry if it's a dumb question!!,
Thanks for all the comments
Owen

The thre types refer to the MASTER CYLINDER not the servo of which there is but one type. The price you have quoted is about right for supply from a ford dealer. But you should be able to get one (might take a while) from ebay cheaper!!

Must admit I think my life is worth £174 so I would probably bite the bullet

[ez64]

Just to update the thread, I realise this is for the S series but may help others as I found this thread linked from a Chimaera thread. running through this pain of a job as well as my reservoir had holes in it and after removing it the master cylinder didn't look much better. The parts no longer come with the reservoir's that I could see and the price/warranty off the tvr suppliers were a joke (warranty void if reservoir removed during fitting)

The reservoir Ford part number for my early Chimaera is "74470810" £40-£60 off eBay good used and the brake master cylinder was the third one in the thread descriptions above ( PMH974 TRW 6170668 89FB2140BA) £53.28 new

Edited by ez64 on Monday 25th July 17:37

Edited by ez64 on Monday 25th July 17:38

Edited by ez64 on Monday 25th July 17:38