Clutch Cylinder part numbers

Clutch Cylinder part numbers

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orange_dodo

Original Poster:

694 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Hi all,

I have read this before but as usual the search is down so I can't find it. I wanted to buy a master and slave cylinder for the S as there is a leak somewhere so thought I'd just replace the lot.

I wanted to check the part numbers of the Land Rover cylinders that fit. I think they are;

Slave: 591231
Master: 550732

Can someone confirm whether or not these will fit. They look right but that never means it will actually fit!

I was intending on going down my local garage and see if they could make a flexible hose to link the two as I seem to remember its not an off the shelf pipe to connect them.

Thanks in advance,

Tom



ADDED:

To summarise the rest of the thread, both part numbers above are correct and fit. The threads in the cylinders are;

Slave - 7/16" UNF
Master - 3/8" UNF

Both use a concave fitting with a double flared pipe end (looks like you've squeezed a ring donut in the copper at the end of the pipe)

Barkychoc's post on page 2 (first post) has links to a supplier for the cylinders. Personally i got the pattern ones from that supplier through ebay.

Edited by orange_dodo on Friday 27th May 11:59

DeadSpider

416 posts

183 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Hello Tom,

The clutch slave is the correct one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-SERIES-3-CLUTCH-S...

Not sure about the master sorry.
Have put a flexi braided pipe on mine.Makes sense to me.
Just watch the thread sizes on both as I believe they are UNF and not metric.
Other thing to watch is the rod that fits into clutch fork plate this wears and becomes slotted almost to the point you believe it should look like it.
Can be filled with weld and remade.( Could have posted a link if the search thingy was working)
cheers Andy


Ps see you in France driving

phillpot

17,105 posts

182 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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DeadSpider said:
Can be filled with weld and remade
Like this ?



Push rod repaired and the "keyhole" slot in arm (designed to take a cable) modified by brazing a nut on then grinding out to form a socket to recieve push rod

HTH

Mike

DeadSpider

416 posts

183 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Thats the one Mike nice one.

Ps see you in France driving

phillpot

17,105 posts

182 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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DeadSpider said:
Ps see you in France driving
Oui, bonjour mon ami ! laugh


I am SO looking forward to this, its my eldest daughters wedding this weekend and this is going to be the perfect "wind down" thumbup

orange_dodo

Original Poster:

694 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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DeadSpider said:
Hello Tom,

The clutch slave is the correct one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-SERIES-3-CLUTCH-S...

Not sure about the master sorry.
Have put a flexi braided pipe on mine.Makes sense to me.
Just watch the thread sizes on both as I believe they are UNF and not metric.
Other thing to watch is the rod that fits into clutch fork plate this wears and becomes slotted almost to the point you believe it should look like it.
Can be filled with weld and remade.( Could have posted a link if the search thingy was working)
cheers Andy


Ps see you in France driving
Cheers Andy,

I'll grab a slave cylinder and possibly a master on a punt. I was going to waterproof the master with some sikaflex as the old stuff is about as waterproof as a colander. I would prefer not to have wet feet on our little trip!

Can't wait though!

orange_dodo

Original Poster:

694 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Right well I have the parts.

As the search function is down (is it ever working!) could someone enlighten me to the issue with the threads on the cylinders?

Anyone know if I'll need a need pipe or will my current one fit?

Tom

Longers

4,492 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Tom

We've got just over an hour on the ferry next week, we can change it then wink

Bagpus

49 posts

165 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Tom,

Did you fit the Land Rover clutch master and if so, was it a direct replacement (except for the pipe fittings)?

Regards

Nigel

HvdWeerden

1,736 posts

199 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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See alternative partslist : you need Girling 64676310
http://www.parkersteve.dsl.pipex.com/sparts.html

Important : bore must be 0,7" !!

I got mine from : PowerTrack Ltd

Han


orange_dodo

Original Poster:

694 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Bagpus said:
Tom,

Did you fit the Land Rover clutch master and if so, was it a direct replacement (except for the pipe fittings)?

Regards

Nigel
Yes and Yes.

Replaced both and apart from the fittings as you said they fitted fine. The bulkhead under my master wasn't in a great state though and there was no way to make a good seal without copious amounts of sealant to fill the holes. I fitted an aluminium plate under the master so hopefully my feet will stay dry!

King Fisher

739 posts

178 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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Sorry for butting in chaps, but this is of interest, as Nick fitted a clutch slave of unknown origin to his S, which was supplied by a friend of someone at David Gerald. The pushrod had to be cut down to fit though; it isn't in constant contact with the clutch release arm though (ie there's a gap between the pushrod and arm when the clutch isn't depressed, but the pushrod moves forward to the release arm when the clutch is pressed), will this be a problem as the pushrod moves forward to engage the release arm?

phillpot

17,105 posts

182 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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The push rod is adjustable (see picture earlier in this thread)

King Fisher

739 posts

178 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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phillpot said:
The push rod is adjustable (see picture earlier in this thread)
Nick's original pushrod went walkies.....

He now a slave cylinder with a new pushrod, that they had to cut down so that it fitted. However, there is a slight gap between the pushrod and release arm when the pushrod pulls back into the slave; will this cause major issues? It's cost him nigh on £80 for the slave cylinder, and we're not sure what its off (it came from one of the directors of selby TVR who is friends with David Gerald TVR, and they obtained him the part at super short notice before he put his gearbox and body back on)....

orange_dodo

Original Poster:

694 posts

188 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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The pushrod is a very simple part and the only problem with there being movement would be excessive wear between it and the clutch fork. I would have thought it would be relativly simple to pack it with something to stop the movement.

Has nick made a new pushrod?

DJ8226

401 posts

172 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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King Fisher - your slave sounds pricy given landy part work a treat and is £10

Also can someone confirm - What size fitting is the landy clutch master cylinder is it 7/16 like the slave?

Original is 3/8 I believe?? can someone confirm. Might not be going this route as Pringli is kindly sending me his old MC but I am going for a flexi pipe either way so need to get the ends right first time.

SO to summarise

Landy Slave = 7/16
Landy Master Cylinder = ??

Girling original Master Cylinder = 3/8

Length of flexi required would help also although I can measure old rigid pipe when I next get the csr out.

TIA Damon

Edited by DJ8226 on Sunday 24th April 20:15

Bagpus

49 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Have just fitted a Land Rover master and the size was 3/8 and 7/16 on the slave

DJ8226

401 posts

172 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Thanks Bagpuss smile

King Fisher

739 posts

178 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Hello,

When you talk of the 3/8ths or 7/16ths, do you mean the thread or the diameter of the pipe that passes through the pipe end?

Also, how would Nick go about making a new pushrod? Do you think he's been ripped off for this new clutch slave cylinder?

DJ8226

401 posts

172 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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3/8 and 7/16 relates to the diameter of the fitting. No he hasn't been ripped off as prices vary from £10 plus p&p up to £50-£55. Plus if you need something in a hurry you always pay a premium.