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nickmpower
Original Poster
73 posts
107 months
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anyone know anything about this in the US? will it be street legal? price?
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The Bumblebee
266 posts
72 months
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No idea on price as from UK, but very street legal in the States
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LotusSE89
314 posts
149 months
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The Bumblebee said: No idea on price as from UK, but very street legal in the States NO, it will not be street legal in the US! I rode in the 2Eleven yesterday, at the LOG 27 trackday. See my website for photos (still uploading) http://vulcangrey.lotuscolorado.com/gallery/view_a...here's me   I think it'll be around $80k. And yes it is very fast, much faster than the Exige S.
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The Bumblebee
266 posts
72 months
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Went to open day in London and they said that it would be.
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LotusSE89
314 posts
149 months
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The Bumblebee said: Went to open day in London and they said that it would be. It can be street legal in the UK under SVA. But there is no way in hell that the 2-Eleven will be legal in the US. This car is also not exactly legal, as the owner keeps getting pulled over...   
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nickmpower
Original Poster
73 posts
107 months
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well thats stupid. I wish them luck in selling any, especially with the ariel atom avalible for the street
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nickmpower
Original Poster
73 posts
107 months
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do you have any info on that yellow car?
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LotusSE89
314 posts
149 months
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nickmpower said: well thats stupid. I wish them luck in selling any, especially with the ariel atom avalible for the street Well, it's designed as a track car! So it really doesn't make sense to drive on the streets. It doesn't have headlights, or bumpers, or airbags, or windshield, or doors... you know, all those pesky things that the USA requires. Dave Simkin was telling me that Lotus USA has sold about 300 track only cars (340R, Elise Sport 190, Elise Motorsport, Exige S1, Exige Cup) So I guess they'll be able to sell 2-Eleven as well. The UK has the Single Vehicle Approval, SVA, and they can drive Radical's on the street. The yellow car is the Sector 111 Spyder http://www.sector111spyder.blogspot.com/
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abrussich
106 posts
124 months
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The car is definitely not street legal in the U.S. Buyers are required to sign affidavits stating that they will not place the car on the street. If they do, and get caught, the fines start at $3,000.
The affidavits are signed and notarized before any order for the car is placed.
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abrussich
106 posts
124 months
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nickmpower said: well thats stupid. I wish them luck in selling any, especially with the ariel atom avalible for the street 30 cars were originally alloted for sale to the U.S., (as I heard, not to be taken as gospel), 34 orders were placed.
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live ade
86 posts
36 months
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"Well, it's designed as a track car! So it really doesn't make sense to drive on the streets. It doesn't have headlights, or bumpers, or airbags, or windshield, or doors... you know, all those pesky things that the USA requires."
It's my understanding - (please correct me if I'm wrong or if this is UK only) that you can order it with a "road pack". this adds luxuries like headlights and brings the wing width in. Doors aren't required, bumpers would be the same as the Elise (ie none/built into the front structure). airbags - it's the same steering wheel as the Elise. There is a vestigial screen.
I can't comment on whether any of this helps you to drive one on the road in the US though !
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abrussich
106 posts
124 months
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That option is not available in the U.S. The 2-11 is strictly a track car stateside.
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trip ferguson
2 posts
34 months
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The 2-Eleven could, perhaps, be titled as a "Kit Car", much like the Superformance Cobras, but that would probably ruin the aesthetic value.
I would simply run it on the streets illegally and beg forgiveness when caught. Rural cops are very forgiving in the South.
It would be no different from driving a go-kart or unlicensed motor scooter on the roads.
The real issue is the price. Dealers are demanding $82,500 for them. For that amount of money, one can buy a Z-06 Corvette. $42,000 will buy a 430 HP Corvette, brand new here.
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abrussich
106 posts
124 months
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After two years of ownership I can attest to the following,
1. some dealers may have asked 82k, Star motor cars did not and sold it at the listed price of 78k.
2. A vette may be cheaper, but on the track I have yet to see one pass the 2-11.
3. Considering how stiff the suspension is and how low to the ground the car is, to drive it on the open road would be plain stupid.
4. It may have been an extravagence, but I have no regrets in having made the purchase and still giggle like a loon everytime out on the track.
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Plastique999
9 posts
8 months
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I second that...my 211 is a track beast. I race on the west coast in the LotusCupUSA series and it is simply a blast! Very few cars are faster on track save Radicals and Formula cars. If you can own or drive one I highly recommend it.
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Scuffers
10,417 posts
143 months
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ravon
273 posts
151 months
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Heavens above, Simon, that is really quick ! Please spill the beans on the spec ?
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Scuffers
10,417 posts
143 months
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ravon said: Heavens above, Simon, that is really quick ! Please spill the beans on the spec ? brief spec of the box is: fully dogged 6 & 7 speed gearsets (including reverse) internal oil pump & spray-bar (with external -8 fittings for oil cooler/filter) bellhousing designed to fit 2ZZ or K20 bespoke concentric clutch slave 3 bearing shafts for maximum strength S156 steel used throughout, fully heat treated and hardened. 14mm wide gears on 86mm spacing Over-sized crown-wheel for increased strength +20mm drive-line to crankshaft spacing (can run 1 piece RH drive-shaft) will accept any Honda pattern differential (Wavetrack are the tested option) designed from the outset to work seamlessly with paddle-shifters (Geartronics) The 6 speed version is slightly shorter than the OEM Honda MT6 box, 7 speed is some 18mm longer, asides that it's identical. Production cases will be 3 parts cast and 2 in billet (fully billet is a cost option). currently the ratio's are: 1st - 2.923 2nd - 2.059 3rd - 1.600 4th - 1.304 5th - 1.120 6th - 1.000 7th - 0.926 then the following FD options: 3.4444 3.7059 4.1250 (other ratio's can be done, but would be one-off's at this stage) Torque rating wise, we are initially looking at 500Nm, but realistically, I would suggest that it will deal with 800+Nm (although the diff choice will need to be though about.) Jamie Willson has one in his Time Attack Exige, in which he has just won the 2012 Club-Pro championship title last weekend at Snetterton, with the car setting the outright time attack lap record for the Snetterton 300 cct.
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Oilchange
2,837 posts
129 months
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Wow! If only my gearbox shifted as seamlessly as that.
Who made it and how much?
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Scuffers
10,417 posts
143 months
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Oilchange said: Wow! If only my gearbox shifted as seamlessly as that.
Who made it and how much? it's an Eliseparts development, made from clean sheet. Basic box complete is ~£12K, then options (like the Geartronics Paddleshift ~£3k etc)
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