Anyone else concerned about ULEZ

Anyone else concerned about ULEZ

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eliotrw

309 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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306 Gti-6 for sale now thanks to the ULEZ, will miss it, just can't justify the 14 quid a pop

Hoofy

76,386 posts

283 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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eliotrw said:
306 Gti-6 for sale now thanks to the ULEZ, will miss it, just can't justify the 14 quid a pop
Could you rent a garage outside the zone near a station eg Surbiton?

AC43

11,493 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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Hoofy said:
If I'm bumming around Richmond, Wimbledon and Kingston most of the time, I don't have to worry about buying a diesel do I?
Maybe. Westminster and Islington councils have already doubled the costs for parking a diesel in a bay on the street. Presumably they are targeting residents permits too.

Big petrols are now being targetted in Barnet.

One one council does it the rest have a habit of following....

Hoofy

76,386 posts

283 months

Sunday 10th February 2019
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AC43 said:
Hoofy said:
If I'm bumming around Richmond, Wimbledon and Kingston most of the time, I don't have to worry about buying a diesel do I?
Maybe. Westminster and Islington councils have already doubled the costs for parking a diesel in a bay on the street. Presumably they are targeting residents permits too.

Big petrols are now being targetted in Barnet.

One one council does it the rest have a habit of following....
That's true!

ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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AC43 said:
Maybe. Westminster and Islington councils have already doubled the costs for parking a diesel in a bay on the street. Presumably they are targeting residents permits too.

Big petrols are now being targetted in Barnet.

One one council does it the rest have a habit of following....
They're doing the same in Sutton. Permit fees are based on emissions and scale with tax band.

2gins

2,839 posts

163 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Richmond will consult on a diesel surcharge for CPZ permits.

https://www.trlibdems.org.uk/a_greener_borough

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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2gins said:
Richmond will consult on a diesel surcharge for CPZ permits.

https://www.trlibdems.org.uk/a_greener_borough
They will need to come up with a good reason for why they are focusing on parked cars that emit nothing, rather than those moving through the borough, other than the pure laziness of hitting the easy target of residents that they already have on their database. They should probably lead by example and do something like turn off the aircon in all their buildings first, since that causes more environmental damage than a parked car does!

2gins

2,839 posts

163 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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kev1974 said:
They will need to come up with a good reason for why they are focusing on parked cars that emit nothing, rather than those moving through the borough, other than the pure laziness of hitting the easy target of residents that they already have on their database. They should probably lead by example and do something like turn off the aircon in all their buildings first, since that causes more environmental damage than a parked car does!
Agree with all of that but sadly they have form here for emissions linked CPZ charges. A1 resident's permit for a 1.8T in 2008? £450. 2 years later after people had seen sense and voted them out? £90 flat rate.

Their line on 20 mph was "it was in our manifesto and you voted for us in droves so that's all the mandate we need" - this will be the same. Sham public consultation and do it anyway.

Laurel Green

30,781 posts

233 months

ZX10R NIN

27,639 posts

126 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Shock horror you mean they're profiteering from this?

uzziwozzi

12 posts

62 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Paris in France have already implemented it. I had to give my reg and get a Crit'Air badge as I planned a London - Paris road trip in my BMW.

I am registered as cat 3 and if it was 4 I wouldn't have been able to drive there.

When I look at the 2021 zone there's NO way I can get a bus or train to my fav steakhouse in Walthamstow. Although it's good for the environment don't you think businesses will be affected by this?

Will need to justify a cost of another car OR trade-in my troublesome BMW..

CarHabit

95 posts

94 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Can anyone who’s much smarter and better informed than me help clarify something?

The ULEZ will have the north / south circular extension in 2021. How probable is this?

There is the 2020 London Mayor elections in May. Any idea what the other potential candidates views are on the 2021 ULEZ extension?

Given the vast increase in areas covered, that a pre-2005 car isn’t that old and many lower income families live in said extended area, this feels like a no go.

Would appreciate any current views on the situation.

2gins

2,839 posts

163 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Labour / khan will push ahead.

Tory / bailey will scrap it but keep the existing central zone, last i heard

Green / berry and lib dem / siobhan whatsit want more of it, no plans I'm aware of there but logically you'd be looking at further extension into outer London boroughs and/or tightening of the specification.

No idea what the independents are thinking.

Hoofy

76,386 posts

283 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Tend to agree.

I expect Richmond will do some kind of ULEZ eventually. I've tried to pre-empt it somewhat by changing my 4x4 for a hot hatch.

jester

(It's newer with a smaller engine so better MPG and better CO2 thingy.)

silverthorn2151

6,298 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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Khan is a disastrous Mayor and I hope Bailey get enough support to beat him. I agree that the central zone can stay ULEZ but it's a waste of £1bn bringing it out. Better ways to spend that on improving air quality. LB Waltham Forest have suggested including the whole borough, which is divided by the A406.

2gins

2,839 posts

163 months

Sunday 24th November 2019
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silverthorn2151 said:
Khan is a disastrous Mayor and I hope Bailey get enough support to beat him. I agree that the central zone can stay ULEZ but it's a waste of £1bn bringing it out. Better ways to spend that on improving air quality. LB Waltham Forest have suggested including the whole borough, which is divided by the A406.
Exactly the same here in Richmond. They'll consult on a clean air zone in this term, so next year probably. Last year was 20mph, this year is the active travel strategy so it wouldn't be a surprise.

selondonman

151 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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ulez extension without manufacturer forced scrappage scheme is a disgrace and con to normal londoners

selondonman

151 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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so sdaiq khan will effectively force londoners to buy new cars ... great for those cheating car companies

but what happens to those cars

all that happens is that they move the pollution to other parts of the uk

they get super cheap cars .. it is a tax on londoners ... for doing nothing wrong

AC43

11,493 posts

209 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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selondonman said:
they get super cheap cars .. it is a tax on londoners ... for doing nothing wrong
Except for driving a highly polluting diesel in London...........

ZX10R NIN

27,639 posts

126 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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AC43 said:
Except for driving a highly polluting diesel in London...........
TFL's own studies show that boilers are the biggest cause of NOX gasses in greater London but hey that won't stop Tax For Londoners.