Shelsley Walsh Sunday breakfast meet now paid ticket only

Shelsley Walsh Sunday breakfast meet now paid ticket only

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Aston Traveller

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373 posts

148 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Shelsley Walsh Sunday breakfast meet is now going to be advance ticket only. Posting this information for those who usually just turn up and do not receive update emails or look at the website.
From the website. It looks as though you buy a ticket and then apply for a parking pass. However, you will not know if you have a display/parking pass till 7 days before when they select those who have been successful. If I have read it correctly.
Also you have to buy a ticket at least 7 days before so no waiting till the day and assessing the weather.
I can see it being absolute chaos at least the first few months when those who do not know the new rules just turn up as usual. If those without tickets are to be refused entry then it will not be easy to turn round etc. It will be interesting. I wonder whether it will affect the numbers turning up? It was a good venue just to turn up to on a nice Sunday morning.

From the website
Breakfast Club

By Advanced Ticket Only

The MAC Breakfast Club is held once a month between February and October at the historic Shelsley Walsh Hill Climb in the Teme Valley on the outskirts of Worcester. The Breakfast Club is open to all, whether you are a car enthusiast, member of the club, motorsport mad or just like going out and meeting friends, Shelsley Walsh is the place to meet. As well as seeing a wide variety of cars old and new, you can also see the restored water mill in action, walk the hill and visit your Yard of Tarmac.

Due to the continual success and growth of the Breakfast Club and after receiving and considering a lot of feedback, we have reviewed the way the event works.

We have chosen to make the Breakfast Club an Advanced Ticket only event with a small charge to cover administration fees.

If you would like to come along you will need to purchase an Advanced Ticket online and once purchased you will then be invited to apply for a Car Pass, which will allow you to park in the Paddock.

By bringing in the new system we hope this will make the event run smoother, reduce the traffic and congestion on the narrow lanes and help cater for everyone.

Advanced Tickets close 7 days prior to the event, when those who have requested a Car Pass will be selected.

Please could we ask that all visitors to the Shelsley Walsh Hill Climb consider the local residents and approach and leave slowly and quietly.

Please follow the process below and we look forward to seeing you.



STEP 1 - Purchase an Advanced Ticket

You will need to purchase an Advanced Ticket by going to our ticket shop, under 16s are free.
Once you have purchased your Advanced Ticket for each person in your party, you will receive an automated email thanking you for your purchase and an invitation to apply for a Car Pass.



STEP 2 - Request a Car Pass

If you would like to display your car your will need to apply for a Car Pass (numbers are limited).
Follow the link on your Advanced Ticket email and fill in all your car details and proceed to the checkout. Applying for a free Car Pass.

You will receive an automated email confirming receipt of your request for a Car Pass pending approval.
Once it has been reviewed by the team and if successful, you will receive a further notification to download your Car Pass in advance of the event.

Your Car Pass will need to be clearly displayed on arrival at the venue and give you access to the Paddock where you will be parked appropriately.

If you are unsuccessful, not to worry, you will be directed to the appropriate parking area forming an alternative display. You can always try again for the following month.



PASSES:



CAR PASS

Those who have a Car Pass will also have an Advanced Ticket and are asked to arrive from 8.30am and follow the signs to the main gates from where you will be directed.


ADVANCED TICKET

If you were unsuccessful and have an Advanced Ticket only, you will directed to the main parking area 500 yards from the paddock.
Please follow the signs to your appropriate parking to avoid any unnecessary congestion in the lane.


Edited to add that the February meet has been cancelled



Edited by Aston Traveller on Monday 25th January 22:53

blueg33

35,843 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Well, that rules me out, I prefer to look at the weather, whats going on at home etc, and tend to only pan 24 hours in advance.

I will stick with Prescott who don't make it so difficult

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I saw this on the Shelsley Walsh Facebook account.

I can see what they are trying to do, but I think it is going to backfire on them unfortunately. They've had a few incidents this year with some people turning up in 'Max Power' type cars and using the surrounding roads as a race track. Understandably, some of the neighbors are less than impressed, so they've had to do something to counter it.

I don't think this is the answer though. Like a lot of people, I decided whether I am going about 24 hours in advance, so booking more than a week ahead is a no-go for me.

It's a shame really as it is usually a good event with a nice bunch of people. Hopefully they will reconsider and look at alternative solutions.

W111AAM

649 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I can also understand why they are doing this and hopefully it will allow for a greater mix of cars in the paddock. However, surely if you just turn up, happy to park in the field, happy to pay a few quid on the gate, just to wonder round the paddock and have a coffee, I can't see why they would turn you away. My initial understanding from the message was this related to people wanting to park in the paddock. If I decide i want a run out on a Sunday morning I would be tempted to just park up the road and walk in, as I'm sure many will and this will really upset the neighbours.


Aston Traveller

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373 posts

148 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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W111AAM said:
I can also understand why they are doing this and hopefully it will allow for a greater mix of cars in the paddock. However, surely if you just turn up, happy to park in the field, happy to pay a few quid on the gate, just to wonder round the paddock and have a coffee, I can't see why they would turn you away. My initial understanding from the message was this related to people wanting to park in the paddock. If I decide i want a run out on a Sunday morning I would be tempted to just park up the road and walk in, as I'm sure many will and this will really upset the neighbours.
Not sure if you have bugged my house as we have just said the same thing about parking on the road! Also if many turn up and are refused entry - I can see them putting their foot down as they drive away- also upsetting the locals ( that is if they can drive off if roads not blocked by those parking.) I can see it killing the spirit of the Sunday breakfast.

W111AAM

649 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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And surely with so many people going now; they can't expect everyone to know that entry is with advanced ticket sale only. They'll be a lot of unhappy people. I live in Stourbridge and its a good 40min drive to Shelsley. I wouldn't be happy once there to be just turned away. Think we need a bit of clarification from Shelsley, surely can't be right.

jingars

1,094 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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No updates to the process as described by the OP currently on the Shelsley Walsh website.

However, the February breakfast club meet has been cancelled due to heavy rain;



"Due to the amount of rain we have had at Shelsley, we have chosen to cancel the February Breakfast Club.

The fields are still so waterlogged there would not be enough space to park the cars that we have come to expect.

Under the new Advanced Ticket only system, the cut of date is 7 days prior to the event and will come into action for the March Breakfast Club.

Please note these events are now by Advanced Ticket only so you will need to have purchased a ticket to come.

For more details on how to purchase tickets http://shelsley-walsh.co.uk/events/Breakfast%20Clu... (which is the text as listed by the OP).

LostBoy84

26 posts

115 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I'm really disappointed by this too, I've been to most of these for the last couple of years but like the rest of you I'll only go if the weather is decent so these new rules just make it unappealing.
Might try a couple to see how it goes or try Prescott instead.
Such a shame as it was a good venue and just the right distance for me in Kidderminster.

Maybe we could look at organising a monthly Pistonheads meet elsewhere?

Aston Traveller

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373 posts

148 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Clarification from Shelsley Facebook page. You will be able to buy tickets in the 7 days before the event but you will not be able to park in the paddock. You get the field.....
Questions have been asked who chooses the cars and will there be a rolling selection to have a good selection each month. This might be moot if numbers drop dramatically. I wonder what would happen if only a few booked in advance and were allocated paddock tickets but loads rocked up having bought tickets the day before resulting in a few in the paddock and loads in the field- crazy. Also it has been asked if you book say a Porsche but it goes in the garage and you turn up in a Forf Mondeo. Would you get refused to the paddock ?

W111AAM

649 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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That sounds more like it. I think if you book to go in something interesting and you turn up in a Ford Galaxy, you go in a field. The whole idea to me of going is to walk round the paddock looking at interesting cars. Otherwise I might as well go walk round the local Tesco car park!!

I agree with Shelsley that they needed to do something about it. Its a great event the for place and must bring in some much needed cash for them. I'm sure it will take a few months to iron out various issues. At least I know that if i decide on Saturday to get up on Sunday morning and fancy a drive out I still get a ticket and go.

Aston Traveller

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373 posts

148 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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W111AAM said:
That sounds more like it. I think if you book to go in something interesting and you turn up in a Ford Galaxy, you go in a field. The whole idea to me of going is to walk round the paddock looking at interesting cars. Otherwise I might as well go walk round the local Tesco car park!!

I agree with Shelsley that they needed to do something about it. Its a great event the for place and must bring in some much needed cash for them. I'm sure it will take a few months to iron out various issues. At least I know that if i decide on Saturday to get up on Sunday morning and fancy a drive out I still get a ticket and go.
Yes, at least you do not have to book 7 days before. However, for there to be interesting cars in the paddock to look at it will depend on others being prepared to book at least 7 days before and being allocated a paddock pass. I wonder how many paddock passes there are to be allocated. Will they include all the space pass the gate including the grass bit immediately to the left after the entrance gate and the road going up the hill and the grass verges there. A question was asked on the FB page re car clubs , whether they could block book etc but I have not seen an answer as yet. I wonder if there might be a black market for paddock passes if you are unable to use one but still went for brekkie and parked in the field! Lol. Anyway it might all be irrelevant as it looks as though it is never going to stop raining. biggrin

Bobhon

1,057 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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So the money you have to pay for your ticket (someone said £3.50?). Do you get that back in the restaurant off your breakfast or does it go into Shelsley's coffers?

Aston Traveller

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373 posts

148 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Bobhon said:
So the money you have to pay for your ticket (someone said £3.50?). Do you get that back in the restaurant off your breakfast or does it go into Shelsley's coffers?
You do not get it back. It is supposed to be for admin......... It costs money to take money don' t you know!. Lot of hassle just for a couple of hours breakfast meet. Not sure how they have costed the admin charge out. I can see it killing the atmosphere there.

Bobhon

1,057 posts

179 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Aston Traveller said:
Bobhon said:
So the money you have to pay for your ticket (someone said £3.50?). Do you get that back in the restaurant off your breakfast or does it go into Shelsley's coffers?
You do not get it back. It is supposed to be for admin......... It costs money to take money don' t you know!. Lot of hassle just for a couple of hours breakfast meet. Not sure how they have costed the admin charge out. I can see it killing the atmosphere there.
So lets get this straight then. £3.50 to attend and 'possibly' get to park in the Paddock. Hmm where's the up side to this then.

I appreciate that there were a few idiots attending that Shelsley quite rightly want to put a stop to. So when you register and buy a ticket against your name and Reg No and then play up then you and your car will be refused a ticket ever again, perfectly sensible. But asking us to pay for the admin for that seems a bit wrong to me.

Given how many people used to turn up for this and buy breakfasts then I can imagine that these events are quite lucrative for Shelsley. I can't see going down this route increasing the number of attendees.

Like many have already said I will look at the weather forecast a few days out before I commit to going there. So £3.50 to never park in the Paddock.

The new Midlands Sunday meets over by Shrewsbury are looking more and more attractive.

Bob

5.0ltr

2,760 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I have made my point to the admin at Shelsley but with no reply, but basically I have attended many meets I have spent my hard earned on breakfasts I could have eaten at home I have burnt fuel I could have used elsewhere, my car, I hope, has been Enjoyed by some possibly in the paddock as it will not make the grass parking, I have met my friends and. Made new acquaintances here but ultimately it is some Tarmac in a Worcestershire field, there are other places I can go to that do not charge me for the honour of walking up 'their' hill I feel I am being accused of being something I am not I respect their wishes and attend quietly so as to be courteous to their neighbours but I am being punished? I wish you well Shelsley but your new rules are made because of the minority that I have never been a part of.

madmover

1,725 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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I can echo the above. I've lost interest.

The new system is going to drive people away from the venue IMO. I went on the website to look at buying a ticket and to try and see what the new process entails... is it just me who can't seem to find a page where one can be bought?

It all seems alot of faff for little gain.
Charging folk for the admin of this is wrong. They should do pretty well out of the breakfasts which they sell. If they don't, they need to look at their margins and change their price lists.

I'm disappointed to say the least. However, there's plenty of other events about so I'm sure some of us will explore those instead.

PHSS format would of worked better. Add your name to the list, first 200 people get in, the rest don't. If you were in the reserve and didn't make the cut, you should get priority for the following month. The admin for that would cost about a tenner as it's a 5 minute job, it would be easier to manage and the problem in hand would be resolved - Admittedly they won't make as much money out of folk...

heebeegeetee

28,722 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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madmover said:
I can echo the above. I've lost interest.

The new system is going to drive people away from the venue IMO.
If they're getting too many people, perhaps that's the idea?

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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They're victims of their own success, it would appear. Sounds little like what happened to Ashby Folville. The childish morons who couldn't behave ruined it for everyone else.

Aston Traveller

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373 posts

148 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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madmover said:
I can echo the above. I've lost interest.

The new system is going to drive people away from the venue IMO. I went on the website to look at buying a ticket and to try and see what the new process entails... is it just me who can't seem to find a page where one can be bought?

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You cannot buy tickets till the day after the previous meet. So cannot buy March tickets till Monday 15th Feb (Feb meet cancelled due to waterlogged field). The ticket buying page will be available then.

madmover

1,725 posts

184 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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heebeegeetee said:
madmover said:
I can echo the above. I've lost interest.

The new system is going to drive people away from the venue IMO.
If they're getting too many people, perhaps that's the idea?
Completely appreciate that they need/want to limit numbers. However, some of the regular attendees I've spoken with, just can't be bothered to even monitor the event anymore. There's limiting numbers but there's also decimating interest in a venue/event... this is doing the latter IMO.