Fast railway lines
Discussion
Hi all,
A bit of an odd request, considering a house move (Kenilworth) and the property will be about 400m from the HS2 line in a cutting.
Which Midlands lines are fast and noisy? Thinking of driving to a location close by and listen for ourselves. Not the most scientific test I know but it's the best I can think of.
A bit of an odd request, considering a house move (Kenilworth) and the property will be about 400m from the HS2 line in a cutting.
Which Midlands lines are fast and noisy? Thinking of driving to a location close by and listen for ourselves. Not the most scientific test I know but it's the best I can think of.
Craikeybaby said:
Between Ballsall Common and Birmingham International there are sections where the line is in a cutting.
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.I would expect HS2 to be quieter, my sons Acoustics Professor is working on the design of the rails to make them quieter. He had a chunk of rail on his desk when I was there this time last year.
blueg33 said:
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
P5BNij said:
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!
Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Thanks, 15 yrs ago I lived 100m from the Kenilworth line, at Mill End (about 1/2 way between the line and The Engine) never used to hear a thing.Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
I know the trains can be noisy @ Balsall Common, but that house was only 50m from the line on Bradnocks Marsh lane
I think I might head down to Brandon
P5BNij said:
blueg33 said:
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Not sure that the HS2 line will be carrying freight trains and a slow limit through any town like Kenilworth rather negates the point of HS2.
PositronicRay said:
P5BNij said:
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!
Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Thanks, 15 yrs ago I lived 100m from the Kenilworth line, at Mill End (about 1/2 way between the line and The Engine) never used to hear a thing.Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
I know the trains can be noisy @ Balsall Common, but that house was only 50m from the line on Bradnocks Marsh lane
I think I might head down to Brandon
blueg33 said:
P5BNij said:
blueg33 said:
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Not sure that the HS2 line will be carrying freight trains and a slow limit through any town like Kenilworth rather negates the point of HS2.
I'm thinking my idea is going to be a bit fruitless Starting to feel like "The Station Agent"
Don't just look at positions where normal day-day running might be noisy. Look at house locations where ANY rail repair work would make the weekend ( which is WHEN repair work is undertaken)not a nice place to be close to what is to all intents and purpose a work site and in most cases from Friday night/Saturday early hours to early on Sunday. If you can find out where NR are doing work over a weekend period, I'd advise a visit to close by and see if /how close you'd like to live when engineering works are in progress.
Banbury to Leamington is a 90mph line and there's a lot of freight traffic so they make a racket as they go through.
Rugby to Nuneaton is a 110mph with an enhanced 125mph for some trains.
If you can get to Hatton or Warwick Parkway (no ticket barriers onto platforms) then they go through there at up to 100mph.
The trains on HST will be electric, not diesel like a lot of the traction around Warwickshire, so that'll be a bit quieter.
Rugby to Nuneaton is a 110mph with an enhanced 125mph for some trains.
If you can get to Hatton or Warwick Parkway (no ticket barriers onto platforms) then they go through there at up to 100mph.
The trains on HST will be electric, not diesel like a lot of the traction around Warwickshire, so that'll be a bit quieter.
P5BNij said:
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!
Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Dear internet friend, please can you fix it for me to have a day playing on your train? kthanx Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Captain Answer said:
P5BNij said:
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!
Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Dear internet friend, please can you fix it for me to have a day playing on your train? kthanx Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.
Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
I went to a HS2 consultation meeting a few weeks ago, the phase2 route skirts my village, my house falls within the £22K compensation zone
they had a big lorry there which you went inside to hear the estimated volumes/acoustics the train would make, I guess the first phase meeting through your town has already been done
The trains will be running 5am till midnight, with routine maintainance going on in the other remaining hours. Its not all about the trains for me but also the heavy engineerring and expected long term disruption while the construction takes place
they had a big lorry there which you went inside to hear the estimated volumes/acoustics the train would make, I guess the first phase meeting through your town has already been done
The trains will be running 5am till midnight, with routine maintainance going on in the other remaining hours. Its not all about the trains for me but also the heavy engineerring and expected long term disruption while the construction takes place
Edited by Viper on Sunday 19th February 06:47
My heart goes out to affected people. It's only now I've started house hunting I'm realising how many places are affected, beautiful rural house that people have invested their lives in.
Whenever I consider a village I'm clicking onto the HS2 map to see where the home is in relation to the line!
The areas/houses I'm considering are often only 500m from the line which is still too close for comfort.
Whenever I consider a village I'm clicking onto the HS2 map to see where the home is in relation to the line!
The areas/houses I'm considering are often only 500m from the line which is still too close for comfort.
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