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PositronicRay

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8,696 posts

98 months

Sunday 5th February
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Hi all,

A bit of an odd request, considering a house move (Kenilworth) and the property will be about 400m from the HS2 line in a cutting.

Which Midlands lines are fast and noisy? Thinking of driving to a location close by and listen for ourselves. Not the most scientific test I know but it's the best I can think of.

Craikeybaby

7,329 posts

140 months

Monday 6th February
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Between Ballsall Common and Birmingham International there are sections where the line is in a cutting.

blueg33

18,191 posts

139 months

Monday 6th February
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Craikeybaby said:
Between Ballsall Common and Birmingham International there are sections where the line is in a cutting.
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.

I would expect HS2 to be quieter, my sons Acoustics Professor is working on the design of the rails to make them quieter. He had a chunk of rail on his desk when I was there this time last year.

P5BNij

1,176 posts

21 months

Monday 6th February
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blueg33 said:
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51

PositronicRay

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8,696 posts

98 months

Monday 6th February
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P5BNij said:
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Thanks, 15 yrs ago I lived 100m from the Kenilworth line, at Mill End (about 1/2 way between the line and The Engine) never used to hear a thing.

I know the trains can be noisy @ Balsall Common, but that house was only 50m from the line on Bradnocks Marsh lane


I think I might head down to Brandon

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blueg33

18,191 posts

139 months

Monday 6th February
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P5BNij said:
blueg33 said:
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
I was thinking passenger trains as per HS2. Virgin Pendalino's don't get up to max speed on that stretch, they have to accelerate from stand still at Coventry and then Stop and International. I am a regular passenger and they never run as fast on that stretch as they do south of Rugby.

Not sure that the HS2 line will be carrying freight trains and a slow limit through any town like Kenilworth rather negates the point of HS2.

P5BNij

1,176 posts

21 months

Monday 6th February
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PositronicRay said:
P5BNij said:
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Thanks, 15 yrs ago I lived 100m from the Kenilworth line, at Mill End (about 1/2 way between the line and The Engine) never used to hear a thing.

I know the trains can be noisy @ Balsall Common, but that house was only 50m from the line on Bradnocks Marsh lane


I think I might head down to Brandon
At Brandon most west bound trains will be accelerating while eastbound they'll usually be shutting off and coasting for the approach to Rugby (if stopping there, or going into one of the loops).



PositronicRay

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8,696 posts

98 months

Monday 6th February
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blueg33 said:
P5BNij said:
blueg33 said:
Trains don't run down that stretch at anything like full speed, I think you need to be looking south of Coventry towards Rugby.
We do sometimes - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
I was thinking passenger trains as per HS2. Virgin Pendalino's don't get up to max speed on that stretch, they have to accelerate from stand still at Coventry and then Stop and International. I am a regular passenger and they never run as fast on that stretch as they do south of Rugby.

Not sure that the HS2 line will be carrying freight trains and a slow limit through any town like Kenilworth rather negates the point of HS2.
I think he's referring to the current Kenilworth - Leamington branch line.

I'm thinking my idea is going to be a bit fruitless driving Starting to feel like "The Station Agent"

Who me ?

6,247 posts

127 months

Monday 6th February
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Don't just look at positions where normal day-day running might be noisy. Look at house locations where ANY rail repair work would make the weekend ( which is WHEN repair work is undertaken)not a nice place to be close to what is to all intents and purpose a work site and in most cases from Friday night/Saturday early hours to early on Sunday. If you can find out where NR are doing work over a weekend period, I'd advise a visit to close by and see if /how close you'd like to live when engineering works are in progress.

Signalling

6 posts

1 month

Thursday 9th February
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Banbury to Leamington is a 90mph line and there's a lot of freight traffic so they make a racket as they go through.

Rugby to Nuneaton is a 110mph with an enhanced 125mph for some trains.

If you can get to Hatton or Warwick Parkway (no ticket barriers onto platforms) then they go through there at up to 100mph.

The trains on HST will be electric, not diesel like a lot of the traction around Warwickshire, so that'll be a bit quieter.

Captain Answer

415 posts

102 months

Thursday 9th February
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P5BNij said:
We do sometimescool - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Dear internet friend, please can you fix it for me to have a day playing on your train? kthanx cool

P5BNij

1,176 posts

21 months

Monday 13th February
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Captain Answer said:
P5BNij said:
We do sometimescool - I'll be working a 2,000ton stone train on this route three nights this week, I'll be on full power for most of it along this stretch, probably doing my maximum of 60mph through Brum International.... not exactly fast I know but take it from me it won't be quiet!

Maximum speed through Kenilworth is 60mph by the way, for passenger and freight, and at certain times of the night there will be the odd freight idling away in the loop waiting for a path along the single line in either direction.

Probably the quietist stretch in the area (although not that close to Kenilworth granted) will be the North Warks line from Stratford to Tyseley, plus the single line connecting branch to Hatton for Leamington which passes through Bearley and Claverdon. Nice and rural with no freight traffic, aside from the occasional engineering train when required.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 6th February 14:51
Dear internet friend, please can you fix it for me to have a day playing on your train? kthanx cool
If I had a quid for every time I've been asked that question... I'd have several quid! Sadly it's a no no these days, and a sacking offence.

Viper

9,928 posts

188 months

Saturday 18th February
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I went to a HS2 consultation meeting a few weeks ago, the phase2 route skirts my village, my house falls within the £22K compensation zone

they had a big lorry there which you went inside to hear the estimated volumes/acoustics the train would make, I guess the first phase meeting through your town has already been done

The trains will be running 5am till midnight, with routine maintainance going on in the other remaining hours. Its not all about the trains for me but also the heavy engineerring and expected long term disruption while the construction takes place

Edited by Viper on Sunday 19th February 06:47

PositronicRay

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8,696 posts

98 months

Tuesday 21st February
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My heart goes out to affected people. It's only now I've started house hunting I'm realising how many places are affected, beautiful rural house that people have invested their lives in.

Whenever I consider a village I'm clicking onto the HS2 map to see where the home is in relation to the line!

The areas/houses I'm considering are often only 500m from the line which is still too close for comfort.

hilly10

3,337 posts

143 months

Monday 27th February
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Trent Vally at Rugeley they come through there at 100 mph