Recycling in Bristol

Recycling in Bristol

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neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

264 months

Thursday 24th August 2006
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yertis said:
flooritforever said:
neil_cardiff said:
yertis said:

What shall we have a go at next?

The proposed redevelopment of the Centre


Oooooooh, lets not get started on the magestic up of the traffic due to this...


Nor me. I'm out in it several times a day, most days with work.

Mind you, hats off to the guys doing the work. Thats a fcensoredg big hole they've dug where Bond Street used to be!


Maybe it's a new landfill...


Knowing BCC I wouldn't be completely shocked if it were to be a Recycling Centre slap bang in the middle of that...

mechsympathy

52,780 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Sorry for the thread ressurection but I'm just back from a cheeky wee holiday

steviebee said:
Why should someone who doesn't have a garden subsidise those that do?


And why should someone without kids subsidise those that do? etc etc. Having a garden increases the value of your property, which is (at least vaguely) how council tax banding works. BCC might at least be honest and admit that they're trying to put off people having a green bin for the 2 or 3 times a year they actually mow the lawn.

We were part of the first roll out of this and got our food waste bins just before the heat wave. They're grim, they don't seal so they stink and grow maggots and flies. We've had to replace the small "indoor" one with a sealable pot but when you open the main one you get a swarm of flies appear.

As a sprogless user who recycled pretty conscienciously (well, the wife didhehe) before it has made next to no difference to us apart from making our kitchen smellrolleyes As far as the rest of the street goes it's hard to say but there are plenty of bins left out from week to week as people don't seem to have worked out when collections occur.

yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Those aren't flies, they are bugs that steviebee (the hint is in his name) operates on behalf of BCC to check that you are using their bins correctly, or pay a fine.

mechsympathy

52,780 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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scratchchinSo our council tax is being wasted on flying micro-robots rather than rank incompetence. That's a reliefhehe

yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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North Somerset have a good rubbish collection and recycling service - green waste and cardboard goes into green bags (they take up no space when empty and you can buy more if you have a big garden). Tins and bottles go into a crate. All the rest goes into black bags. Once a week they come round and pick it up. You don't need to be Nostradamus to anticipate when or which collection is due, and they don't spy on you to make sure you're falling into line with their stupid box-ticking sham of a recycling scheme.

Not long ago I went down to the Days Road tip and put all my various bits of recyclables (paint, old engine oil, batteries etc) into the correct relevant bays. Then I went to put something in the crusher and while I was there some council bod wandered up with all my old paint and oil and chucked that in the crusher too.

So I reckon they just take the whole lot and chuck it in the same big hole. I've not seen any evidence to the contrary.

pdV6

16,442 posts

261 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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yertis said:

So I reckon they just take the whole lot and chuck it in the same big hole. I've not seen any evidence to the contrary.

I've heard that several times from different sources, i.e. its all a big scam to "look" green and we're not actually saving landfill at all...

mechsympathy

52,780 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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pdV6 said:
yertis said:

So I reckon they just take the whole lot and chuck it in the same big hole. I've not seen any evidence to the contrary.

I've heard that several times from different sources, i.e. its all a big scam to "look" green and we're not actually saving landfill at all...


It wouldn't surprise me at allbanghead

steviebee

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12,899 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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mechsympathy said:
pdV6 said:
yertis said:

So I reckon they just take the whole lot and chuck it in the same big hole. I've not seen any evidence to the contrary.

I've heard that several times from different sources, i.e. its all a big scam to "look" green and we're not actually saving landfill at all...


It wouldn't surprise me at allbanghead


Aside from the fact this would be highly illegal (directors and managers of waste firms and local authorities have received jail terms doing just this), it would also be akin to thowing money away given that the seperated waste material is treated as a commodity and has high value - particulalry steel and glass.

Where this has happened in the past is when third-party contractors are paid to dispose of the lower value or more difficult to treat waste (such as electrical items). The council will pay these companies who then have to pay to dismantle or incinerate the waste. They can increase their profits by simply dumping the stuff but it's becoming increasingly difficult to do this and the risks are no longer comensurate with the gains.

BTW: The "bugs" are simply chips that contain the postcode of the property to which the bin belongs. It's used to record the weight of the waste collected over a certain area. That's all. I can assure you that councils have far more pressing and important things to worry about thant who's putting what rubbish in what bin!

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

264 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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I. am. going. to. rip. somebody. a. new. arsehole. at. the. council. mad

Why do they leave seven - yes seven bins (small ones too - for eight large flats), just because they were slightly open? ing utter tts....

I give up I really do, they can stay out there until somebody reports it...

Piglet

6,250 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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We were supposed to have a recycling collection this week, checked the BCC website last night to check which day to see if had changed for the BH, half the area has their food bins and black boxes out and they haven't shown up. It's going to look nice out there tomorrow......

remal

24,973 posts

234 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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to add to some of the comments, yes it is cr*p . but I have a young family, wife, 2 daughters and we have no problems yet. we recycle plastic bottles when going shopping, glasss, tins, paper. I would not pay for the green bins as South glos have them for free and free collection less then 1 mile from my house.

just hope they are recycling my rubbish and not dumping it in other countrys like I have read

pdV6

16,442 posts

261 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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Aaaargh! The "definately every week collection of green, food, bottles, cans & cardboard" didn't happen yesterday (quelle suprise) so the streets are swamped with loose cardboard and stinking, maggot-infested brown bins.

Fecking great. Nice one Bristol Shitty Council. curse

Piglet

6,250 posts

255 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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pdV6 said:
Aaaargh! The "definately every week collection of green, food, bottles, cans & cardboard" didn't happen yesterday (quelle suprise) so the streets are swamped with loose cardboard and stinking, maggot-infested brown bins.

Fecking great. Nice one Bristol Shitty Council. curse


Yep same for us, the web site said collection on the same day as normal but they actually came a day late.

pdV6

16,442 posts

261 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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Piglet said:


Yep same for us, the web site said collection on the same day as normal but they actually came a day late.


idea Hang on - the bank holiday put it all back by a day I guess? Shame all the literature they've poured through our doors recently completely failed to mention this (including the sticker that lists all the dates and gives this week as "recycling collection on normal bin day"

yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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steviebee said:
it would also be akin to thowing money away


Yes, I think that's how most of us feels about our rates.

Piglet

6,250 posts

255 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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pdV6 said:
Piglet said:


Yep same for us, the web site said collection on the same day as normal but they actually came a day late.


idea Hang on - the bank holiday put it all back by a day I guess? Shame all the literature they've poured through our doors recently completely failed to mention this (including the sticker that lists all the dates and gives this week as "recycling collection on normal bin day"


...and when we went onto the web site to check it showed black bin collections going back a day but recycling on the normal day. We expected it to be back a day but according to them it wouldn't be but then it was!

pdV6

16,442 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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This chap has the same views as me, but is far more eloquent:

http://alternativeworship.org/paulsbl

eccles

13,740 posts

222 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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neil_cardiff said:
I. am. going. to. rip. somebody. a. new. arsehole. at. the. council. mad

Why do they leave seven - yes seven bins (small ones too - for eight large flats), just because they were slightly open? ing utter tts....

I give up I really do, they can stay out there until somebody reports it...



have you tried phoning up the council and asking for another (or more) bin?

our flats had a problem with the bins being overflowing, a quick phonecall and we had some new bins appear, problem solved.

kooper

397 posts

276 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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pdV6 said:
neil_cardiff said:
last week ... NONE of our rubbish was taken away becuase our bins were slightly open, and we had left some extra bags by the side

Grrr. That's a real wind up.

Ok, so extra bags aren't allowed. Just leave them then.
Ok, so the bin is supposed to be fully shut. Why FFS? What does it matter to the bin collector whether its open a few inches or not? Makes no odds. Fully open with a delicately balanced stack of bags teetering on top I can see would be a H&S issue, but to leave ALL the rubbish for a bin lid left ajar really smacks of pettiness.


Do the binmen have a list of how many bins belong to each block of flats? If not then the simple answer is to steal some bins from a neighbouring block. Then if you steal enough to have about 10 bins you should be sorted.

IanReid

107 posts

263 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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steviebee said:

Aside from the fact this would be highly illegal (directors and managers of waste firms and local authorities have received jail terms doing just this),

That's convinced me. It's illegal so it'll never happen. I'm glad to hear it's that simple.

steviebee said:

it would also be akin to thowing money away given that the seperated waste material is treated as a commodity and has high value - particulalry steel and glass.

Why do you continually mention steel and glass in a thread about household rubbish. It's completely irrelvant. This is typical of the muddled thinking that shows the thing for the utter shambles it is.

steviebee said:

BTW: The "bugs" are simply chips that contain the postcode of the property to which the bin belongs. It's used to record the weight of the waste collected over a certain area. That's all. I can assure you that councils have far more pressing and important things to worry about thant who's putting what rubbish in what bin!

As long as you believe this Steve, that's OK. For a more balanced view of the situation read this [url]http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006[/url]

Edited by IanReid on Tuesday 5th September 13:52