Stolen in Aberdeen: BMW 335i - H9WSR
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findlay_MX said:
Old news but pathetic sentencing.
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/28547...
And guess who reappeared 3 days ago?
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/30709...
As a non legal minded person, why can this case not go ahead, why does it need to be rescheduled to later in the year, leaving him to do as he pleases until then?http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/28547...
And guess who reappeared 3 days ago?
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/30709...
Are they saying that there will be defence and prosecution lawyers working on the case 24/7? Are they hell, he will reappear, or maybe not, and then it will be another dealy for reports etc.
This country's legal system stinks.
And on a separate note, is there anything less sophisticated, that owners can do to prevent their cars being taken?
In the old days we used to remove the HT leads from under the bonnet to prevent theft. Is there something similar and quick and easy able to be done?
Obviously anything with keys they will go looking for so disklocks etc fall into same category as car keys, but if the car won't physically start??
Also, how are they sourcing these vehicles, just casual drive bys and seeing what cars are in what driveways (hopefully not from PH spotted threads). So if you have a garage, get the lawnmower out into the driveway and get the car hidden away!
I think today's story in the Record should be a springboard for huge pressure being put on Aberdeen cops from the public to get this menace sorted.
In the old days we used to remove the HT leads from under the bonnet to prevent theft. Is there something similar and quick and easy able to be done?
Obviously anything with keys they will go looking for so disklocks etc fall into same category as car keys, but if the car won't physically start??
Also, how are they sourcing these vehicles, just casual drive bys and seeing what cars are in what driveways (hopefully not from PH spotted threads). So if you have a garage, get the lawnmower out into the driveway and get the car hidden away!
I think today's story in the Record should be a springboard for huge pressure being put on Aberdeen cops from the public to get this menace sorted.
I watched a program last night called "Don't blame facebook" it was quite funny but one thing that I noticed was that a chap who had been driving dangerously and uploading it to youtube was taken to court and although the punishment wasn't severe (his face was never shown in his videos so there wasn't enough evidence) the fact remained that other police forces have "e-crime" units to deal with this sort of thing and they did take it seriously. If we had that here it could help. As I recall when I submitted information about certain facebook pages from scumbags in my area to the police after my car was broken into I was told "I don't have access to facebook at my machine, sorry"
Well at least this is starting to get some publicity now. It is beyond a joke that they have been getting away with this for so long - and even more so that the police were giving the victim a hard time while her car was being thrashed around residential areas!
I really hope something is done about this soon.
I really hope something is done about this soon.
Craigie said:
And on a separate note, is there anything less sophisticated, that owners can do to prevent their cars being taken?
In the old days we used to remove the HT leads from under the bonnet to prevent theft. Is there something similar and quick and easy able to be done?
Obviously anything with keys they will go looking for so disklocks etc fall into same category as car keys, but if the car won't physically start??
Also, how are they sourcing these vehicles, just casual drive bys and seeing what cars are in what driveways (hopefully not from PH spotted threads). So if you have a garage, get the lawnmower out into the driveway and get the car hidden away!
I think today's story in the Record should be a springboard for huge pressure being put on Aberdeen cops from the public to get this menace sorted.
Pull the fuel pump fuse?In the old days we used to remove the HT leads from under the bonnet to prevent theft. Is there something similar and quick and easy able to be done?
Obviously anything with keys they will go looking for so disklocks etc fall into same category as car keys, but if the car won't physically start??
Also, how are they sourcing these vehicles, just casual drive bys and seeing what cars are in what driveways (hopefully not from PH spotted threads). So if you have a garage, get the lawnmower out into the driveway and get the car hidden away!
I think today's story in the Record should be a springboard for huge pressure being put on Aberdeen cops from the public to get this menace sorted.
James B said:
I understand the Grampian Police FB page makes for some interesting reading this morning.
yeah they have put up a post saying to make sure house doors are locked etc..in that statement they said that 90% of these thefts have been with the ignition key, i posted asking how many of those were due to doors being unlocked or forced entry and they replied saying all of those 90% were due to people leaving doors unlocked.
very surprised by that, do that many people leave their houses unlocked?
I've just read the message. What a shoulder slope of blame that is.
I find it hard to believe that so many people leave their doors unlocked, I'm sorry I just agree with that. Could it not simply be the case that there is no sign of forcible entry (these guys know what they're doing) to the home or do they need to see broken windows and busted locks?
A chap at my work just arrived stating his car was stolen, they broke into his home and stole the keys.
I find it hard to believe that so many people leave their doors unlocked, I'm sorry I just agree with that. Could it not simply be the case that there is no sign of forcible entry (these guys know what they're doing) to the home or do they need to see broken windows and busted locks?
A chap at my work just arrived stating his car was stolen, they broke into his home and stole the keys.
It certainly does, and it appears that they are trying to blame the owners of the cars for the thefts for leaving their houses open and the keys lying about.
I don't think it will be long at all before vigilante groups start to appear - they really need to do something about this!
https://www.facebook.com/grampianpoliceforce?fref=...
I don't think it will be long at all before vigilante groups start to appear - they really need to do something about this!
ApexJimi said:
Could someone c&p the contents of GP's Facebook page for those of us who don't have fb?
You can to see it publicly without an account:https://www.facebook.com/grampianpoliceforce?fref=...
People around the north-east are still leaving doors open for criminals, failing to heed warnings about crime prevention, a top police officer has said.
Aberdeen Division Chief Inspector Garry Senff has renewed Grampian Police's appeals for residents to lock their homes and secure their property.
High value and powerful cars continue to be stolen from insecure homes, and 11 people were charged with related offences last weekend alone.
One of those included a 12-year-old boy who allegedly stole and drove a Honda and an Audi dangerously around the city.
Since the start of October 2012, 86 people in Aberdeen City and Shire have been charged in connection with car thefts. Of those, 13 are under the age of 16.
Police are sending out the message that an open door is an open invitation, and two victims of sneak-in car thefts have warned homeowners not to be complacent.
Since October, over 100 cars worth £1million have been stolen, in over 90% of cases using the ignition keys for the vehicle. Most new cars are very difficult to start without the ignition key, leading criminals to attempt to obtain the key by whatever means possible.
The value of cars recovered so far is around £900,000, but that does not reflect the upset and inconvenience caused to their owners, which could have been easily avoided.
Chief Inspector Senff said: "The message is simple. Don't leave your doors unlocked and give criminals an open invitation, because they will take advantage of the opportunity.
"Nobody wants a stranger raking through their personal belongings while they and their family lie asleep, let alone making off with one of their most valuable possessions.
"A car is one of the most expensive items people buy. It's what transports them to work and their children to school, and to risk losing it by leaving the keys in view behind an unlocked door, or in the ignition of an unlocked car, is astonishing.
"But that's exactly what has been happening in many cases, and while we will continue to trace, arrest and charge suspects for these crimes, a few simple steps by the public could stop them happening in the first place.
"We need the support of the public in preventing crime and some simple things like locking your car, your home and keeping your keys somewhere safe and out of sight will help to deter criminals from making you the next victim. If you have security devices you should use them.
"These are the same messages we have been giving out for some time, but frustratingly people seem to think it won't apply to them and they end up offering easy access to criminals. Everyone has a responsibility to safeguard their own property, and while we can, and will, investigate crimes like this and attempt to recover property, it is far better to prevent yourself becoming a victim than regret it after the event."
No one area or town is being targeted, with the thieves moving from area to area to find suitable targets, often in the early hours of the morning or even through the day.
One resident from the Ashgrove area of the city had her Audi stolen from outside her home in the early hours and has discovered the practical realities of such a theft. She said: "My car was recovered, but was damaged and is still in the garage - I don't really know that I want it back now.
"I've been trying to sell it, but the car has been branded stolen/recovered by the insurance, so that means it's lost 30% of its value, as well as the fact garages won't now accept it as a trade-in. My insurance premium is also going to significantly increase.
"Also I know criminals have been in my car, using it to commit offences against other people, driving it badly, and that alone means I don't really want it back."
Another resident had his Volkswagen stolen from his home in the Mannofield area after thieves entered his unlocked home in the night and made off with the key. The car was later recovered elsewhere in the city.
He said: "The fact alone that someone was in my home while I slept in the middle of the night, never mind the fact they stole my car, is surely enough warning to people to lock their doors.
"I'm also very uncomfortable with the fact someone else was driving my car, and don't know if I could ever drive it again. You just don't know how poorly it's been driven, or if it's got damage you're not aware of.
"There's also the thought you've attracted these people into the area, where vulnerable neighbours may be targeted and come off worse than me.
"Looking back on it I am an idiot to have left my door unlocked, the potential consequences of criminals being in our house while we slept don't bear thinking about.
"I feel I have to warn people, no matter how safe they feel where they live, that they have a responsibility to protect their homes and property by at least making sure it's secure."
If you want to report a crime, or want advice on how to keep your property secure, contact Grampian Police on 0845 600 5 700.
Crime Prevention advice, including advice on home and vehicle security, can also be found on our website: http://www.grampian.police.uk/Advice2240.html?id=9...
Aberdeen Division Chief Inspector Garry Senff has renewed Grampian Police's appeals for residents to lock their homes and secure their property.
High value and powerful cars continue to be stolen from insecure homes, and 11 people were charged with related offences last weekend alone.
One of those included a 12-year-old boy who allegedly stole and drove a Honda and an Audi dangerously around the city.
Since the start of October 2012, 86 people in Aberdeen City and Shire have been charged in connection with car thefts. Of those, 13 are under the age of 16.
Police are sending out the message that an open door is an open invitation, and two victims of sneak-in car thefts have warned homeowners not to be complacent.
Since October, over 100 cars worth £1million have been stolen, in over 90% of cases using the ignition keys for the vehicle. Most new cars are very difficult to start without the ignition key, leading criminals to attempt to obtain the key by whatever means possible.
The value of cars recovered so far is around £900,000, but that does not reflect the upset and inconvenience caused to their owners, which could have been easily avoided.
Chief Inspector Senff said: "The message is simple. Don't leave your doors unlocked and give criminals an open invitation, because they will take advantage of the opportunity.
"Nobody wants a stranger raking through their personal belongings while they and their family lie asleep, let alone making off with one of their most valuable possessions.
"A car is one of the most expensive items people buy. It's what transports them to work and their children to school, and to risk losing it by leaving the keys in view behind an unlocked door, or in the ignition of an unlocked car, is astonishing.
"But that's exactly what has been happening in many cases, and while we will continue to trace, arrest and charge suspects for these crimes, a few simple steps by the public could stop them happening in the first place.
"We need the support of the public in preventing crime and some simple things like locking your car, your home and keeping your keys somewhere safe and out of sight will help to deter criminals from making you the next victim. If you have security devices you should use them.
"These are the same messages we have been giving out for some time, but frustratingly people seem to think it won't apply to them and they end up offering easy access to criminals. Everyone has a responsibility to safeguard their own property, and while we can, and will, investigate crimes like this and attempt to recover property, it is far better to prevent yourself becoming a victim than regret it after the event."
No one area or town is being targeted, with the thieves moving from area to area to find suitable targets, often in the early hours of the morning or even through the day.
One resident from the Ashgrove area of the city had her Audi stolen from outside her home in the early hours and has discovered the practical realities of such a theft. She said: "My car was recovered, but was damaged and is still in the garage - I don't really know that I want it back now.
"I've been trying to sell it, but the car has been branded stolen/recovered by the insurance, so that means it's lost 30% of its value, as well as the fact garages won't now accept it as a trade-in. My insurance premium is also going to significantly increase.
"Also I know criminals have been in my car, using it to commit offences against other people, driving it badly, and that alone means I don't really want it back."
Another resident had his Volkswagen stolen from his home in the Mannofield area after thieves entered his unlocked home in the night and made off with the key. The car was later recovered elsewhere in the city.
He said: "The fact alone that someone was in my home while I slept in the middle of the night, never mind the fact they stole my car, is surely enough warning to people to lock their doors.
"I'm also very uncomfortable with the fact someone else was driving my car, and don't know if I could ever drive it again. You just don't know how poorly it's been driven, or if it's got damage you're not aware of.
"There's also the thought you've attracted these people into the area, where vulnerable neighbours may be targeted and come off worse than me.
"Looking back on it I am an idiot to have left my door unlocked, the potential consequences of criminals being in our house while we slept don't bear thinking about.
"I feel I have to warn people, no matter how safe they feel where they live, that they have a responsibility to protect their homes and property by at least making sure it's secure."
If you want to report a crime, or want advice on how to keep your property secure, contact Grampian Police on 0845 600 5 700.
Crime Prevention advice, including advice on home and vehicle security, can also be found on our website: http://www.grampian.police.uk/Advice2240.html?id=9...
jamieduff1981 said:
The blue RS4 was taken by kicking in their dog flap and wriggling through the hole in the door. Wonder what GP classed that as.
I can see it now. "The houseowner had not secured their dog flap to block off any access for crims so it's all their fault and we're oot, toodle pip. Email Mr Salmond if you think we're being plonkers."
It's not unusual for us to have left a front door unlocked while we're at home. That has now changed. Doors are locked unless going in/out of the house.
Christ, in Orkney & Shetland nobody ever locks their homes, and it's still common for people to leave their keys in their cars!
Maybe we're not used to this in our quiet, civilised part of the country.
Christ, in Orkney & Shetland nobody ever locks their homes, and it's still common for people to leave their keys in their cars!
Maybe we're not used to this in our quiet, civilised part of the country.
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