Who is bogging off after the YES vote?
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I didn't say he's a bad guy, I said he's popular 
He's in charge of the SNP, who together with the yes campaign, appear to have gained support for their cause based on an idea with very little basis in solid fact, which can deflect any criticism at all and has an uncanny ability to deflect criticism and even turn it to its own advantage.
I congratulate him and respect his leadership, but do not agree with him.
Much like the relationship between Salmond and Putin I believe.
He's in charge of the SNP, who together with the yes campaign, appear to have gained support for their cause based on an idea with very little basis in solid fact, which can deflect any criticism at all and has an uncanny ability to deflect criticism and even turn it to its own advantage.
I congratulate him and respect his leadership, but do not agree with him.
Much like the relationship between Salmond and Putin I believe.
OlberJ said:
Meh. It is what it is. Being popular doesn't make you a bad guy.
Writing the same things twice doesn't make you correct.
Doesn't make you a good guy either.. Writing the same things twice doesn't make you correct.
Anyway.
Do any if the yessers have any answers to the points raised by mintychris, gofasterrosco and gwm?
Or is telling people to f
k off the limit of your debating and point proving skills?I'll not get my hopes up for an answer though...
OlberJ said:
You never told us who said to feck off Alan. Still waiting.
Why? You admitted you hadn't said it, so why bother?I won't state which members said it. I'm not going to drag names into this, if that is their opinion then they can rightly or wrongly have that opinion.
I will bear no grudge for them, regardless of which way the vote goes.
Now, since you're in a posting mood. Got any answers for the 3 posters who have put up questions.
Strange, because you seem to have brought it up a few times now. I thought it was aimed at me and I was confused as I have not said that or have seen someone else say that, I can only think Fluff fits the bill?
No, i'm just going to say i'll vote how I want and keep my reasons to myself and watch the No camp either jump all over it or get frustrated by it.
Infer what you like from that, it really ain't going to bother me
No, i'm just going to say i'll vote how I want and keep my reasons to myself and watch the No camp either jump all over it or get frustrated by it.
Infer what you like from that, it really ain't going to bother me
I brought it up to show the ugly side of this "debate".
I find it rather effective at showing that.
Look through the 15 pages and you'll see plenty of people speak up saying a NO vote is selfish, not a true Scottish person etc etc, a few fk offs and plenty of don't let your arse hit you on the way out.
A them and us, you're either with us, or against us mentality.
Yet strangely, almost no answers to any questions out to them, but plenty of demands when told facts about proving it or apologise.
Vote any way you like, for whatever reasons.
I just find it strange how 3 possible yes voters are being totally ignored instead of plenty of evidence shown to them by answering questions.
Strange, or to be expected.
I find it rather effective at showing that.
Look through the 15 pages and you'll see plenty of people speak up saying a NO vote is selfish, not a true Scottish person etc etc, a few f
k offs and plenty of don't let your arse hit you on the way out.A them and us, you're either with us, or against us mentality.
Yet strangely, almost no answers to any questions out to them, but plenty of demands when told facts about proving it or apologise.
Vote any way you like, for whatever reasons.
I just find it strange how 3 possible yes voters are being totally ignored instead of plenty of evidence shown to them by answering questions.
Strange, or to be expected.
A.J.M said:
I brought it up to show the ugly side of this "debate".
I find it rather effective at showing that.
Look through the 15 pages and you'll see plenty of people speak up saying a NO vote is selfish, not a true Scottish person etc etc, a few fk offs and plenty of don't let your arse hit you on the way out.
A them and us, you're either with us, or against us mentality.
Yet strangely, almost no answers to any questions out to them, but plenty of demands when told facts about proving it or apologise.
Vote any way you like, for whatever reasons.
I just find it strange how 3 possible yes voters are being totally ignored instead of plenty of evidence shown to them by answering questions.
Strange, or to be expected.
And this thread isn't about should we vote yes or noI find it rather effective at showing that.
Look through the 15 pages and you'll see plenty of people speak up saying a NO vote is selfish, not a true Scottish person etc etc, a few f
k offs and plenty of don't let your arse hit you on the way out.A them and us, you're either with us, or against us mentality.
Yet strangely, almost no answers to any questions out to them, but plenty of demands when told facts about proving it or apologise.
Vote any way you like, for whatever reasons.
I just find it strange how 3 possible yes voters are being totally ignored instead of plenty of evidence shown to them by answering questions.
Strange, or to be expected.
it is about who is leaving after the vast majority of true scots vote for freedom from english oppression
anyone notice that the other thread about who is going to stay after a yes vote has faded away back to page 3 or 4. Not surprising as when someone says they'll vote no to independence the independence people jump down their throat and try and persuade them to change their mind. If an independence person says they'll vote yes the No voters won't care.
If you even look at the better together facebook groups you will see the majority of the commenters will be yes voters rather than the no voters.
this thread asked a very simple question, one that should only have been looked at and responded by no voters yet the majority of the posts seem to be coming from the yes vote lot.
If you even look at the better together facebook groups you will see the majority of the commenters will be yes voters rather than the no voters.
this thread asked a very simple question, one that should only have been looked at and responded by no voters yet the majority of the posts seem to be coming from the yes vote lot.
For those who missed this, a poem by the late David MacLennan:
If Scotland votes for Independence
Will the limestone lochs of Durness become more limey
Will Scots porridge oats be much more porridgey
Will Arbroath smokies be far smokier
And make our Cullen Skink a whole lot skinkier
Will Independence make the heather bloom more purple
The gorse more yellow, sea campion more pink
And will the bluebells below the Duke's Pass in the Trossachs
More thoroughly carpet the woods
If we vote yes
Will the Tartan Army throw off its inhibitions
And really get themselves about
Will Celtic Rangers Hibs and Hearts at last command the passion of the fans
Will Inverness Caley Thistle find a more patriotic name
And will the Sun and Daily Record finally give some space to football
Will the Proclaimers rediscover their Dundee accents
Will Phil Cunningham get his act together on that box of his
And Aly Bain get to grips with his Shetland fiddle
Will Paolo Nutini sound more Paisley
And Capercaille a bit more Gaely
If Scotland was left to go it alone
Would Bannockburn be undeniable
The Saltire flag more flyable
The Bank of Scotland liable
The crofting way of life more viable
The Wee Free Church more pliable
The Orange marchers justifiable
The summer weather more reliable
And would the deep fried Mars bar cease to be as fryable
If Scotland goes its own way
Will the Langholm Common Riding be more common
Will the cabers birl further in bonny Braemar
Will the flames of Up Helly Aa more brightly burn
Will Abermuchty and Auchtergeldy take it in turn
To have the longest village main street in the land
Will smir and dreich and gloaming forebye
And drookit and glaikit an' aw naw an' och aye
Burst forth like a spring when Scotland is free
An' gallus an' stumour an' oh michty me
If Scotland says aye
Will St. Andrews be the home of golf
Will the curling stones roar on the Lake of Menteith
Will the camans clash loud in the Camanachd Cup
Will the Guest House in Oban be always full up
Will the Rest and Be Thankful be thankful at last
The Beallach to Applecross more like a pass
Will the Old Man of Hoy and the Old Man of Stoer
And Buachaille Etive Beg and Buachaille Etive Mhor
Stand taller and prouder and more recognizable
And the chip on oor shooders a wee bit less sizeable
Will Glaswegians be more gallus
Will you have had your tea in Edinburgh
Will Aberdonians be more mean
And will all the stereotypes
Of every city town and village in the land be reinforced
If Scotland does its ain thing
Will Scotland be more Scottish
I hae ma doots.
If Scotland votes for Independence
Will the limestone lochs of Durness become more limey
Will Scots porridge oats be much more porridgey
Will Arbroath smokies be far smokier
And make our Cullen Skink a whole lot skinkier
Will Independence make the heather bloom more purple
The gorse more yellow, sea campion more pink
And will the bluebells below the Duke's Pass in the Trossachs
More thoroughly carpet the woods
If we vote yes
Will the Tartan Army throw off its inhibitions
And really get themselves about
Will Celtic Rangers Hibs and Hearts at last command the passion of the fans
Will Inverness Caley Thistle find a more patriotic name
And will the Sun and Daily Record finally give some space to football
Will the Proclaimers rediscover their Dundee accents
Will Phil Cunningham get his act together on that box of his
And Aly Bain get to grips with his Shetland fiddle
Will Paolo Nutini sound more Paisley
And Capercaille a bit more Gaely
If Scotland was left to go it alone
Would Bannockburn be undeniable
The Saltire flag more flyable
The Bank of Scotland liable
The crofting way of life more viable
The Wee Free Church more pliable
The Orange marchers justifiable
The summer weather more reliable
And would the deep fried Mars bar cease to be as fryable
If Scotland goes its own way
Will the Langholm Common Riding be more common
Will the cabers birl further in bonny Braemar
Will the flames of Up Helly Aa more brightly burn
Will Abermuchty and Auchtergeldy take it in turn
To have the longest village main street in the land
Will smir and dreich and gloaming forebye
And drookit and glaikit an' aw naw an' och aye
Burst forth like a spring when Scotland is free
An' gallus an' stumour an' oh michty me
If Scotland says aye
Will St. Andrews be the home of golf
Will the curling stones roar on the Lake of Menteith
Will the camans clash loud in the Camanachd Cup
Will the Guest House in Oban be always full up
Will the Rest and Be Thankful be thankful at last
The Beallach to Applecross more like a pass
Will the Old Man of Hoy and the Old Man of Stoer
And Buachaille Etive Beg and Buachaille Etive Mhor
Stand taller and prouder and more recognizable
And the chip on oor shooders a wee bit less sizeable
Will Glaswegians be more gallus
Will you have had your tea in Edinburgh
Will Aberdonians be more mean
And will all the stereotypes
Of every city town and village in the land be reinforced
If Scotland does its ain thing
Will Scotland be more Scottish
I hae ma doots.
doogz said:
ViperPict said:
Looking more and more likely today...
Why's that?Former NFU leaders backing YES
Former senior police officers backing YES
Leading economist backing currency union
Moving Trident competent feasible and not nearly as expensive as previously quoted
Oil and Gas People supporting YES
Out and about, lots of YES signs etc in folk's properties but very little no
Massive new oil fields to be developed
SG making sensible controls on fracking development.
Free health care to be enshrined in Scottish constitution
The list goes on. All will increase support for YES.
ViperPict said:
A bit of a groundswell it seems...
Former NFU leaders backing YES
Former senior police officers backing YES
Leading economist backing currency union
Moving Trident competent feasible and not nearly as expensive as previously quoted
Oil and Gas People supporting YES
Out and about, lots of YES signs etc in folk's properties but very little no
Massive new oil fields to be developed
SG making sensible controls on fracking development.
Free health care to be enshrined in Scottish constitution
The list goes on. All will increase support for YES.
In your dreams.Former NFU leaders backing YES
Former senior police officers backing YES
Leading economist backing currency union
Moving Trident competent feasible and not nearly as expensive as previously quoted
Oil and Gas People supporting YES
Out and about, lots of YES signs etc in folk's properties but very little no
Massive new oil fields to be developed
SG making sensible controls on fracking development.
Free health care to be enshrined in Scottish constitution
The list goes on. All will increase support for YES.
HenryJM said:
ViperPict said:
A bit of a groundswell it seems...
Former NFU leaders backing YES
Former senior police officers backing YES
Leading economist backing currency union
Moving Trident competent feasible and not nearly as expensive as previously quoted
Oil and Gas People supporting YES
Out and about, lots of YES signs etc in folk's properties but very little no
Massive new oil fields to be developed
SG making sensible controls on fracking development.
Free health care to be enshrined in Scottish constitution
The list goes on. All will increase support for YES.
In your dreams.Former NFU leaders backing YES
Former senior police officers backing YES
Leading economist backing currency union
Moving Trident competent feasible and not nearly as expensive as previously quoted
Oil and Gas People supporting YES
Out and about, lots of YES signs etc in folk's properties but very little no
Massive new oil fields to be developed
SG making sensible controls on fracking development.
Free health care to be enshrined in Scottish constitution
The list goes on. All will increase support for YES.
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