Who is bogging off after the YES vote?

[emicen]

ViperPict said:

If I do move (possibility in the next few years) it'll be nothing to do with a no vote.

In other words, your highly vocal rallying for the cause is off the back of knowing you might not bother sticking around to live with the consequences.

[Rollin]

Edinburger said:

Rollin said:

Your views represent a tiny minority of UK population. More people in Scotland support bringing back the death penalty than independence, does the UK government "have a duty" to let Scotland do that too?


Oh and a nice paragraph from Project McFear at the end...well done.

You're surely not being serious, are you?!

Your views represent a tiny minority of UK population. FACT
More people in Scotland support bringing back the death penalty than independence. FACT

If, as the pict says, the UK government has a duty to let minority groups in the UK have their way, then why not with the death penalty too?
What are you struggling to understand?

[Rollin]

emicen said:

ViperPict said:

If I do move (possibility in the next few years) it'll be nothing to do with a no vote.

In other words, your highly vocal rallying for the cause is off the back of knowing you might not bother sticking around to live with the consequences.

It's easy to promote independence when you have the ability to leave if it all goes wrong. I'm alright Jack attitude as usual.

[ViperPict]

emicen said:

ViperPict said:

If I do move (possibility in the next few years) it'll be nothing to do with a no vote.

In other words, your highly vocal rallying for the cause is off the back of knowing you might not bother sticking around to live with the consequences.

I don't think you read my post.

There is an entirely unrelated (and small) chance that I may move.

But that would be in the event of either a yes or no vote.

[Who me ?]

After all the huffing and puffing, perhaps a sign can put into perspective one of the main reasons for folks wanting to be an independent nation .

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Edited by Who me ? on Tuesday 26th August 22:20

[jamieduff1981]

[quote=Who me ?]After all the huffing and puffing, perhaps a sign can put into perspective one of the main reasons for folks wanting to be an independent nation .

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Edited by Who me ? on Tuesday 26th August 22:20

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Not really.

[gofasterrosssco]

[quote=Who me ?]After all the huffing and puffing, perhaps a sign can put into perspective one of the main reasons for folks wanting to be an independent nation .

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Edited by Who me ? on Tuesday 26th August 22:20

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Wasn't it the democratically elected SCOTTISH government that introduced the smoking ban..?

[HenryJM]

gofasterrosssco said:

Wasn't it the democratically elected SCOTTISH government that introduced the smoking ban..?

That's right. 2006 in Scotland, the rest of the UK didn't follow suit until July 2007.

[Hollowpockets]

HenryJM said:

That's right. 2006 in Scotland, the rest of the UK didn't follow suit until July 2007.

Be afraid, so many (not all) yes voters don't know what they are voting for!

[scz4]

Down in London town working this week and was just thinking.... say there is a yes vote, would I effectively incur "international roaming" charges for data and voice whilst in England? Same as going to Republic of Ireland.

Would we get our own international dialing code replacing +44?

I'm sure this is the type of practical information that was answereded in the white paper lol

Edited by scz4 on Wednesday 27th August 17:52

[scz4]

Quick google suggests we would.... what a nightmare for businesses! More additional cost and inconvenience!

http://blog.widmann.org.uk/2011/11/27/4682/

[GoneAnon]

Bitter Thegither used the roaming charges story some time ago.

Sadly (for them) the day they ran the story was also the same day the EU announced the end of roaming charges so the only likely theat will be if we vote Naw and then the UK government take us out of Europe.

Personally, I'd rather be out of both the UK and Europe and pay roaming charges when needed.

As for the international dialling code, that could be quite cool, same as the .scot web domain.

[Rollin]

"SNP claims over an independent Scotland’s membership of the European Union (EU) have been dealt a blow.

European Commission (EC) vice president Vivianne Reding has written two letters to the Scottish Parliament’s European and external relations committee claiming that if any part of the territory of a member state ceases to be a part of that state, European treaties no longer apply to it.

In her correspondence, Ms Reding says that if Scotland votes for independence, Scots will no longer be EU citizens.

The letters contradict the Scottish Government’s independence white paper claim that European treaties would continue to apply to an independent Scotland.

Ms Reding’s comments also contradict the SNP’s arguments that an independent Scotland could bypass the normal EU entry via Article 49 of the Treaty of the European Union, by using Article 48, which provides for a treaty amendment to be agreed by common accord."

Vote for independence and you're out of the EU. It seems better together is correct.

[simoid]

GoneAnon said:

Bitter Thegither used the roaming charges story some time ago.

Sadly (for them) the day they ran the story was also the same day the EU announced the end of roaming charges so the only likely theat will be if we vote Naw and then the UK government take us out of Europe.

Personally, I'd rather be out of both the UK and Europe and pay roaming charges when needed.

As for the international dialling code, that could be quite cool, same as the .scot web domain.

I think you've got yourself a bit mixed up there. The UK is a member of the UK, but Scotland isn't.

Also, when there's a naw vote, we won't have to pay roaming charges in England. It's all the same country

[McWigglebum4th]

Rollin said:

"SNP claims over an independent Scotland’s membership of the European Union (EU) have been dealt a blow.

European Commission (EC) vice president Vivianne Reding has written two letters to the Scottish Parliament’s European and external relations committee claiming that if any part of the territory of a member state ceases to be a part of that state, European treaties no longer apply to it.

In her correspondence, Ms Reding says that if Scotland votes for independence, Scots will no longer be EU citizens.

The letters contradict the Scottish Government’s independence white paper claim that European treaties would continue to apply to an independent Scotland.

Ms Reding’s comments also contradict the SNP’s arguments that an independent Scotland could bypass the normal EU entry via Article 49 of the Treaty of the European Union, by using Article 48, which provides for a treaty amendment to be agreed by common accord."

Vote for independence and you're out of the EU. It seems better together is correct.

All here

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/parliamentarybus...

[Calvib]

simoid said:

I think you've got yourself a bit mixed up there. The UK is a member of the UK, but Scotland isn't.

Also, when there's a naw vote, we won't have to pay roaming charges in England. It's all the same country

All this 'when' triumphalist nonsense may seriously bite you in the @rse pal!

The #patronisingbtlady ad (seriously thought it was a joke!) and Salmond's drubbing of Darling will make interesting viewing of the next poll (not the biased Ipsos-Mori or YouGov though).

[Calvib]

Hollowpockets said:

HenryJM said:

That's right. 2006 in Scotland, the rest of the UK didn't follow suit until July 2007.

Be afraid, so many (not all) yes voters don't know what they are voting for!

This patronising sh!te tells me all I need to know about you! 'Too wee, too STUPID' and all that? If there's a YES vote it's because most people are dim, right?! Getting rid of this elitist nonsense is one of the main reasons for voting YES.

[HenryJM]

Calvib said:

Hollowpockets said:

HenryJM said:

That's right. 2006 in Scotland, the rest of the UK didn't follow suit until July 2007.

Be afraid, so many (not all) yes voters don't know what they are voting for!

This patronising sh!te tells me all I need to know about you! 'Too wee, too STUPID' and all that? If there's a YES vote it's because most people are dim, right?! Getting rid of this elitist nonsense is one of the main reasons for voting YES.

Voting Yes is about thinking that everything that suits you will happen because it's no longer being blocked or enforced on you by those Tories.

[Hollowpockets]

Calvib said:

Hollowpockets said:

HenryJM said:

That's right. 2006 in Scotland, the rest of the UK didn't follow suit until July 2007.

Be afraid, so many (not all) yes voters don't know what they are voting for!

This patronising sh!te tells me all I need to know about you! 'Too wee, too STUPID' and all that? If there's a YES vote it's because most people are dim, right?! Getting rid of this elitist nonsense is one of the main reasons for voting YES.

oh well, it seems a little humour isn't even welcome here on a car forum. However, if there's a yes vote, myself and the 60 people I work with, will probably be out of work when the company closes its doors, if that brightens up your day, have a chuckle at my expense.

[Parsnip]

Is anyone else more than a little bored of the whole circus by now?

I'm a firm no voter, but I am really feeling the apathy on this - I am depressed everytime I read or see anything regarding the referendum - so much time, money and effort has been wasted over this - the last debate pushed me over the edge - petty squabbling by ugly people in cheap suits - whatever the result, Scotland looks like a backwards, chippy little colony that couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. The idea that our lot in Edinburgh could debate or negotiate on the world stage is laughable - it really is the diddy league of politics.

I can't help but feel that when the result is announced (either way) there will be a strong sense of "right, what now?"