Who is bogging off after the YES vote?
Discussion
Humper said:
If, according to the No campaign on here, Scotland is such a s
t country with no assets that we couldn't make it with the big boys, why on earth would England want to keep us?
There are a number of different views from the No perspective, I am sure that some of the people who are anti-independence think that Scotland is a st country with no assets that we couldn't make it with the big boys, why on earth would England want to keep us?t country, just as there are those in the independence movement who hate England.I love Scotland, and the Scottish people, and it breaks my heart to see what is being done to them in the name of independence. The entire campaign has proved to be extremely divisive, and the electorate is making an incredibly important and irrevocable decision on the basis of lies, obfuscation, and blind belligerence from the Yes campaign.
The referendum isn't like a general election, you can't change your minds about it and come back to the UK if it turns out to be not to your liking after all.
I used to be very much against the idea of independence, as I firmly believe that it would not be in the best interests of Scotland to be independent.
Now, however, I am coming to believe that although this is still true, independence would be in the best long-term interests of England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
As a Brit, I do not want Scotland to leave the Union. As an Englishman, I think it's probably better for the rest of us if it does. The United Kingdom will manage ok without Scotland, especially with the massive boost to our more deprived regions that the defence, shipbuilding, civil service, and renewable energy industry jobs will bring.
Edited by Gaspode on Saturday 30th August 08:00
Its all a big waste of time, energy and tax payers money. We are not oppressed, we are not treated as 2nd rate citizens, the UK doesn't bleed us of money, Scottish politicians are not magically better than English politicians, its a power grab by that waste of oxygen Salmond and the Scottish Nazi Party.
It is a hateful, divisive campaign that has no place in this day and age.
No point, no clue, NO thanks.
It is a hateful, divisive campaign that has no place in this day and age.
No point, no clue, NO thanks.
simoid said:
GoneAnon said:
You resort to name-calling, then call the campaign divisive?
Name calling isn't divisive.Dividing a country is divisive.
We will never be the same, every time anything happens from here on the referendum result will be blamed for everything.
In 30 years' time people will start shouting at each other about the referendum in the same way Thatcher provokes enraged debates today.
jamieduff1981 said:
Indeed. TBH I don't think a yes or no result matters any more. The damage is already done. Salmomd has already irrepairably divided Scotland's population in to two substantial groups each of which frankly hates everything the other stands for.
We will never be the same, every time anything happens from here on the referendum result will be blamed for everything.
In 30 years' time people will start shouting at each other about the referendum in the same way Thatcher provokes enraged debates today.
I really hope you're wrong, but I fear that you may well be right.We will never be the same, every time anything happens from here on the referendum result will be blamed for everything.
In 30 years' time people will start shouting at each other about the referendum in the same way Thatcher provokes enraged debates today.
jamieduff1981 said:
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In 30 years' time people will start shouting at each other about the referendum in the same way Thatcher provokes enraged debates today.
given that there are parts of Notts and S+W yorks where the scabs are still ignored by uncle arthur's disciples that is entirely probably...In 30 years' time people will start shouting at each other about the referendum in the same way Thatcher provokes enraged debates today.
jamieduff1981 said:
simoid said:
GoneAnon said:
You resort to name-calling, then call the campaign divisive?
Name calling isn't divisive.Dividing a country is divisive.
We will never be the same, every time anything happens from here on the referendum result will be blamed for everything.
In 30 years' time people will start shouting at each other about the referendum in the same way Thatcher provokes enraged debates today.
I packed my bags and left on 4th November 1988
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jamieduff1981 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
ViperPict said:
Who has started packing then? 
Is this your fair and welcoming Scotland?
One that thinks that the rest of the world can't hurt it if they don't look it in the eye.Stop talking rubbish.
ViperPict said:
Why we want to be a part of a wider European community while the UK wants out?
Stop talking rubbish.
(a) the UK doesn't want out of the EU, just UKIPStop talking rubbish.
(b) the Yes vote guarantees that Scotland leaves the EU, with no simple route back in, and several countries opposed to it.
The great thing about Scotland going independent is that once the rest of Britain sees how crap it gets for Scotland, and how quickly it happens, they'll be much less likely to believe the UKIP nonsense about how it will all be better for the UK outside the EU.
I reckon a Yes vote will ensure Scotland leaves the EU and ensure the UK stays in.
ViperPict said:
Why we want to be a part of a wider European community while the UK wants out?
Stop talking rubbish.
Can you link me to a poll that suggests the rUK is more anti Europe than Scotland?Stop talking rubbish.
Everything I have read suggests that there is a max difference between potential pro European voters of just 5%
But I suppose you Scots have "different" hopes and aspirations from the rest of us being a much "fairer" populace.
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