Who is bogging off after the YES vote?

Who is bogging off after the YES vote?

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Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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It looks like the English defence league has landed in Glasgow.

Absolutely shameful.


barryrs

4,376 posts

222 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Driver101 said:
It looks like the English defence league has landed in Glasgow.

Absolutely shameful.
The EDL has a Glasgow division you spoon.



dalzo

1,875 posts

135 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Severely disappointed at my countrymen tonight.

The fighting in George square is a disgrace,when we should be all hands on deck moving the country forwards like everyone was pre-result but no the dicks on both sides want a riot.
Why on earth if your a yes voter would you be at George square, everyone knows whatever side won would be having their respective street party. My blood is at absolute boiling point seeing the no camp burning a saltire aswell.

As happy as I am at the result, I can't help but feel the country has went backwards

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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dalzo said:
Severely disappointed at my countrymen tonight.

The fighting in George square is a disgrace,when we should be all hands on deck moving the country forwards like everyone was pre-result but no the dicks on both sides want a riot.
Why on earth if your a yes voter would you be at George square, everyone knows whatever side won would be having their respective street party. My blood is at absolute boiling point seeing the no camp burning a saltire aswell.

As happy as I am at the result, I can't help but feel the country has went backwards
It was deemed independence square and has been populated by the yes guys in good spirit.

Tonight it's full of the no voters wanting to cause trouble.

There is live feeds and loads of other videos circulating showing loads of absolutely dreadful behaviour that has nothing at all to do with the vote.

Have you seen what is actually going on and the songs being sung?

If they hate Scotland that much, they'd be better just to leave for the good of everyone.


dalzo

1,875 posts

135 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Driver101 said:
It was deemed independence square and has been populated by the yes guys in good spirit.

Tonight it's full of the no voters wanting to cause trouble.

There is live feeds and loads of other videos circulating showing loads of absolutely dreadful behaviour that has nothing at all to do with the vote.

Have you seen what is actually going on and the songs being sung?

If they hate Scotland that much, they'd be better just to leave for the good of everyone.
I agree with your first sentence the atmosphere had been tremendous the full week but not the rest, why would yes voters be there,they lost the referendum?
They are both singing and acting disgracefully, once again it's descended into sectarianism.
And it's a big childish get it up you party, it would happened had the result went the other way, they clowns should have been hounded out by either side the moment they started causing trouble.

cat220

2,762 posts

214 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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dalzo said:
Severely disappointed at my countrymen tonight.

The fighting in George square is a disgrace,when we should be all hands on deck moving the country forwards like everyone was pre-result but no the dicks on both sides want a riot.
Why on earth if your a yes voter would you be at George square, everyone knows whatever side won would be having their respective street party. My blood is at absolute boiling point seeing the no camp burning a saltire aswell.

As happy as I am at the result, I can't help but feel the country has went backwards
Someone has now been stabbed in Buchanan street, these people burning saltires and signing sectarian songs are there to cause trouble, nothing else. It you think they're there to party then you're deluded! Absolute scum...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=102024...

I'll leave the heavier stuff for you to find if you so wish.

What an impression to give with the world watching.



Edited by cat220 on Friday 19th September 23:52

fluffnik

20,156 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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dalzo said:
Severely disappointed at my countrymen tonight.
I don't think they're my countrymen.

Just another example of why so many of us don't regard ourselves British...

CraigV6

348 posts

130 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Where is ViperPict?

yellowbentines

5,296 posts

206 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Driver101 said:
It was deemed independence square and has been populated by the yes guys in good spirit.

Tonight it's full of the no voters wanting to cause trouble.
No its not.

Anyone who is familiar with Glasgow and its deep rooted sectarian problems knows that the troublemakers are the same bigoted scum that come out of the woodwork for marching season and old firm games.

It was an excuse for a fight, and the people involved are not representative of the No camp as a whole, you can't take the actions of a few hundred people to represent the 2 million No voters.

jamieduff1981

8,022 posts

139 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Indeed - this has nothing to do with being British or Scottish, a little to do with a referendum.

It has everything to do with a nucleus of bottom-feeder aholes out looking for trouble, which to be honest is fairly predictable for Glasgow the night following such a tense political event. What's surprising is that so many people were apparently dim enough to go out in Glasgow where this sort of thing is certain to kick off given the boiling build up there has been in Glasgow in the run up to it, and especially since 'the losers' will feel just as disappointed as 'the victors' feel happy.

Should we be above this? Of course we should. You'd have to be an idiot not to foresee it though, and therefore the prudent thing to do is stay away from pubs and clubs the weekend following such a large event.

StescoG66

2,108 posts

142 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Personally thought Salmond was gracious in defeat. Pertinent but gracious.
I am led to believe the trouble in the city was - as usual - led by premeditated gangs. I heard BNP and EDL mentioned but who knows. Very sad.
Now the fun starts. No surprise re backtracking on promises made.
From a personal perspective I favour autonomy, however that was denied as an option. As a consequence I voted yes. After all everything started as nothing more than a vision. Plus I really distrust the current crop in Westminster. Wasn't an easy choice I can tell you

StescoG66

2,108 posts

142 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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jamieduff1981 said:
Indeed - this has nothing to do with being British or Scottish, a little to do with a referendum.

It has everything to do with a nucleus of bottom-feeder aholes out looking for trouble, which to be honest is fairly predictable for Glasgow the night following such a tense political event. What's surprising is that so many people were apparently dim enough to go out in Glasgow where this sort of thing is certain to kick off given the boiling build up there has been in Glasgow in the run up to it, and especially since 'the losers' will feel just as disappointed as 'the victors' feel happy.

Should we be above this? Of course we should. You'd have to be an idiot not to foresee it though, and therefore the prudent thing to do is stay away from pubs and clubs the weekend following such a large event.
Seconded

dalzo

1,875 posts

135 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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cat220 said:
Someone has now been stabbed in Buchanan street, these people burning saltires and signing sectarian songs are there to cause trouble, nothing else. It you think they're there to party then you're deluded! Absolute scum...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=102024...

I'll leave the heavier stuff for you to find if you so wish.

What an impression to give with the world watching.



Edited by cat220 on Friday 19th September 23:52
I'm not going to argue who was the baddest out of the two, however if you think it's only one side to blame you are extremely naive. I've never been so embarrassed to be scottish in my whole life,not just by the clowns in George square but the reactions on social media as well.

bp1

796 posts

207 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Driver101 said:
It was deemed independence square and has been populated by the yes guys in good spirit.

Tonight it's full of the no voters wanting to cause trouble.

There is live feeds and loads of other videos circulating showing loads of absolutely dreadful behaviour that has nothing at all to do with the vote.

Have you seen what is actually going on and the songs being sung?

If they hate Scotland that much, they'd be better just to leave for the good of everyone.
This will be the same good guys who threatened my mate with a right good kicking when he told them to get off the cenotaph/stop wrecking poppy wreathes on Wednesday night?

Don't be so naïve as to believe one side is all good and the other bad.

cat220

2,762 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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dalzo said:
cat220 said:
Someone has now been stabbed in Buchanan street, these people burning saltires and signing sectarian songs are there to cause trouble, nothing else. It you think they're there to party then you're deluded! Absolute scum...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=102024...

I'll leave the heavier stuff for you to find if you so wish.

What an impression to give with the world watching.



Edited by cat220 on Friday 19th September 23:52
I'm not going to argue who was the baddest out of the two, however if you think it's only one side to blame you are extremely naive. I've never been so embarrassed to be scottish in my whole life,not just by the clowns in George square but the reactions on social media as well.
I'm not putting forward an argument of who is the "baddest of the two" I'm only highlighting what was happening in the city centre last night. I came back from working in Edinburgh last night into Queen street station making my way over to Central station. It was obvious the element above were out to cause trouble and provoke people. Terrible atmosphere, this was at a time when people were finishing work and people in town shopping. By the sounds of it things just deteriorated as the evening past. I totally agree with you re being embarrassed to be Scottish, that was a first for me in my lifetime. A 'scotsman' burning a satire ffs that has to be an all time low! What would they be like if it had been a Yes vote, we'd have another Northern Ireland on our hands. Sad state of affairs.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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PLEASEDELETE said:
I was in Glasgow's east end on Wednesday. Encountered what's best described as a yes-camp rabble. Got called 'scum', a 'unionist orange bd' (wtf??????) and got offered violence, twice. These didn't seem like thugs. They just seemed like ordinary-ish (though somewhat underclass) folk who'd been wound up by a cause.

Have to agree with the opinion that Salmond tried to rouse an underclass rabble. Also agree that that's a standard tactic of national socialism.

Sadly it seems that with a weakened and damaged labour party and an unwanted tory party, Scotland's in for many long years of national socialist government with only trivial opposition. National socialism is a dangerous game, and whilst it can appear jovial and positive whilst the wind's in its sails, when it's thwarted it can show another face, and it certainly doesn't have much tolerance for opposition. In a country like Britain people don't really like taking or accepting responsibility - it's always someone else's fault when something goes wrong. Scots are no different. And had the SNP got their independence, I hate to think who they'd have scapegoated if their economic plans (whatever they were) hadn't worked out.
Glasgow is a very polarised City it has been for many many years. Those who fly the Union Jack are hardly going to vote Yes and likewise at Celtic Park those who fly flags of another country are not going to vote No.
Maybe my thinking is out of date or maybe not.I would love to hear from someone who still lives there.

AC43

11,435 posts

207 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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cat220 said:
dalzo said:
cat220 said:
Someone has now been stabbed in Buchanan street, these people burning saltires and signing sectarian songs are there to cause trouble, nothing else. It you think they're there to party then you're deluded! Absolute scum...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=102024...

I'll leave the heavier stuff for you to find if you so wish.

What an impression to give with the world watching.



Edited by cat220 on Friday 19th September 23:52
I'm not going to argue who was the baddest out of the two, however if you think it's only one side to blame you are extremely naive. I've never been so embarrassed to be scottish in my whole life,not just by the clowns in George square but the reactions on social media as well.
I'm not putting forward an argument of who is the "baddest of the two" I'm only highlighting what was happening in the city centre last night. I came back from working in Edinburgh last night into Queen street station making my way over to Central station. It was obvious the element above were out to cause trouble and provoke people. Terrible atmosphere, this was at a time when people were finishing work and people in town shopping. By the sounds of it things just deteriorated as the evening past. I totally agree with you re being embarrassed to be Scottish, that was a first for me in my lifetime. A 'scotsman' burning a satire ffs that has to be an all time low! What would they be like if it had been a Yes vote, we'd have another Northern Ireland on our hands. Sad state of affairs.
Some of the funniest people I've ever met come from Glasgow. But unfortunately some of the most ignorant, bigotted and violent people I've met also come from there.

Anyway, glad the latter are getting the backlash they deserve. Banging on and on and on about their rights has now caused a backlash through the rest of the UK. Headline in the Telegraph page 4 is "Home Rule for England".

If the Glaswegian who glassed me in 1993 in reading this stick that RIGHT up your arse pal.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

199 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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The Barnet formula can't survive as other areas of the union now want the same.

Angelus

2,209 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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NoNeed said:
The Barnet formula can't survive as other areas of the union now want the same.
Really, do they not know that London and the South East get more than Scotland?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Angelus said:
Really, do they not know that London and the South East get more than Scotland?
I think we need a truth and reconciliation panel.