Who is bogging off after the YES vote?

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ViperPict said:

It'll work because us Scots are so stupid?

Not quite

If the YES campaign works then I will consider the scots to be very stupid.

Hence the bye bye


Think of it this was.

The yes campaign are promising to let more sunlight into my house by cutting the roof off.

And quite rightly I'm asking what if it rains?

To which the response is fk off you Tory it will never rain

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drangular said:

The recurring themes of the anti- independence campaign are the 'too wee, too poor, too stupid' and 'the UK has been great for Scots' mantras. These themes are reflected very well in the comments on here by those who do not want an independent Scotland.

No that is just the ever present victim complex

I read the comments as you can't spend 1000billion pounds and only tax 10billion pounds

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ViperPict said:

I don't think Sevco will be around if Scotland becomes independent. Something is very wrong with the set-up there if they can have attendances if >40k every week and not be able to balance their books!

Are you saying the out goings are greater then the income.

Does that sound like a familiar argument?

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OlberJ said:

Yeah, quite right. Tiny, wee Scotland needs looked after.

100% correct

The driver behind left wing thinking is I am too stupid to spend my wages wisely and those that are unemployed are too stupid to survive without the state controlling everything

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ViperPict said:

I interviewed 2 people this week in London who want to move north (i.e. to Scotland) prior to the referendum. For precisely the reason to move to Scotland with the prospect of it being independent in the future and to be able to vote YES to help that.

What kind of job was it?

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I think we should try and drag the debate here

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Seeing no one has been banned from this tread i can't see any problems

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Edinburger said:

ViperPict said:

An AS/DC debate will egage much more people.

Yep, you're right there. But DC doesn't have the bottle.

He also doesn't want history to remember him as the PM responsible for the break up of the UK.

Salomnd doesn't want to debate Cameron about Scotland

He wants to call him a Tory of television

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footsoldier said:

Scots have never been afraid to astonish the world. A small country has made a habit of producing big thinkers. The Sunday Herald says that it is time to think big once again. And to think for ourselves.

Thought about it

the case the SNP are making is still bks

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ViperPict said:

More paranoid BS from the arch-Unionists then....

You still haven't mentioned yet whether you'll be staying after a YES vote or not (i.e., the topic of this thread). Will you be?

You still haven't posted in the main thread

I wonder why?

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ViperPict said:

I think time will tell who has their head in the sand. But I have the life experience to recognise BS when I smell it. And every utterance from Project Fear reeks.

Life experience?

You count fish

You are an academic

You have fk all grasp on reality

I know this as i grew amongst many academics

As to "project fear" the only fear i have is Scotland ends up in the hands of people like you with your aggression and total evasion on anything that actually matters.

You are project fear

You are what makes me want to leave MY country

You are what is going to destroy Scotland

You are going to win the NO vote


You and your ilk are the very best asset the NO campaign has

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Monday 5th May 06:46

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Humper said:

The whole idea of the op is that we should all fk off asap if the vote is for Scotland to be a country in it's own right(not a vote for the SNP, Salmonella, or wee men fae Mars)

Okay it isn't for the SNP

date of referendum = ?

Date of indpendence = ?

Date of first election = ?

So who will be incharge during the negotiations?

Humper said:

So, yes, fk off and don't let the door hit you on the arse, in fact, why are you still here if other countries are so much better than Scotland?

Yes, that's impolite, but better to be blunt than condescending, cos reading the No posts there's some nasty st in there too.

I never said there is better countries

That is your typical YES victim mentality coming out


I am still here as Scotland is great but appears to have way more moaning victim aholes then i thought it did

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ViperPict said:

Paraphrasing, but:

"What drives the YES campaign is the simple belief that tomorrow can be better than today.

NO’s message is that this as as good as it gets."

The reason that yes voters belive that independence will make things better is they are a victims

They belive that Scotland is one of the worst place to live in europe if not the world

I have looked around the facebook pages and a common theme is Scotland could not get any worse then it is currently.


If you geniuely belive Scotland is a terrible place then vote YES, just be prepared for a crushing disapointment when reality bites.



As a NO voter i know things are pretty fking good i know they could be a bit better but they could be far far worse

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ViperPict said:

Siscar said:

Siscar said:

ViperPict said:

The issue is not England though. It is London and the southeast - £1,700 per head spending on transport - that is justified?!

What is that figure though, how to you define it?

So come on VP, what is this £1,700 a head figure? Where does it come from? I'm genuinely interested in what it is.

Spend on transport per head in London. From a news piece on Radio 4 last week.

Does that figure include how much comes in from poor suckers paying to use the public transport in london?

Hard to tell

And where do you think we should get £1700 per head to spend on transport in scotland?

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///ajd said:

ViperPict said:

Siscar said:

Siscar said:

ViperPict said:

The issue is not England though. It is London and the southeast - £1,700 per head spending on transport - that is justified?!

What is that figure though, how to you define it?

So come on VP, what is this £1,700 a head figure? Where does it come from? I'm genuinely interested in what it is.

Spend on transport per head in London. From a news piece on Radio 4 last week.

Edinburgh tram - £750m > £1Bn cost
Edinburgh pop - 490,000
Cost per person £1500>£2000

What was your ill concieved nat point again?

And amount of people carried so far is?

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ViperPict said:

Firstly, the trams were not a 'nat' decision.

Secondly, the London spend is per annum.

They were a SCOTTISH decision

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ViperPict said:

Figures for 2011:

http://www.ippr.org/news-and-media/press-releases/...

Even worse than I had thought...

And does that point to where the cash goes from the people paying to use londons pubic transport

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ViperPict said:

McWigglebum4th said:

ViperPict said:

Firstly, the trams were not a 'nat' decision.

Secondly, the London spend is per annum.

They were a SCOTTISH decision

But nothing to do with the current administration, which you and others imply is the main reason against independence.

But they are Scottish therefore subject to the same magical forcefield you belive in that makes them immune to fk ups


Or maybe you don't belive in the magical forcefield and just think the english are useless

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ViperPict said:

What the fk are you on about?! The issue is the bias, per capita, of public spending to London and the south-east. Nothing to do with who was responsible the Edinburgh trams fiasco. Try and focus.

So the scottish government will spend exactly the same per head throughtout the country be it the northwest coast or edinburgh

Also

I don't give a fk how much they spend transporting people around the sthole down south

What bothers me is the idea that because they live 3 minutes walk from a tube station i live 3 minutes from a tube station


And to be honest i can see that improving with the tram obsessed wkers they have in holyrood


But according to you the trams fiasco can't of happened as it was scottish people who organised it

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Edinburger said:

Wiggley: on behalf of the PH community - thank you.

Your mindless, pointless and comical rants about, well, everything and nothing just make the rest of us realise how level headed we actually are and how content we are with our lives.

You are a legend. To all the other inmates, at least.

At least i can answer questions you dipst

And if you want to see ranty sweary aholes then might i suggest you go look at the yes forums

with a side serving of racism and class war

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Edinburger said:

Aberdeen Asset Management, one of Scotland's biggest companies, has said it has no plans to move its headquarters under independence.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-polit...

Why do you keep posting in here

This is about those that want to escape your left wing utopia

There is no reason why you can't only post in thread running in NPE

And no one is aware of anyone being banned from that thread so what is the problem?