Who is bogging off after the YES vote?
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I haven't even considered moving. Even if the vote is yes it will be at least a couple of years until full independence. I must admit I am finding it hard to show any interest in the subject at all, which I probably should do being Scottish and living in Scotland. I still genuinely don't know what to vote and find both campaigns as vague as each other in the information department. I'm still amazed that some people think it will be the end to all our problems immediately if the vote is yes. Things are never that simple.
The fact is, Scotland is my home, I like the town where I live, why should I move? In my view there's no point in getting into a panic over it when we don't actually know what is going to happen whatever the outcome in September.
The fact is, Scotland is my home, I like the town where I live, why should I move? In my view there's no point in getting into a panic over it when we don't actually know what is going to happen whatever the outcome in September.
I've been investigating the possibility of 'moving' to Newcastle or Carlisle and winding up my Scottish registered Ltd Co and opening up again in England.
I don't believe anyone. I do however consider it as a risk/reward scenario and I see minimal potential upside from a Yes vote but plenty ways for everything to go wrong.
Everything from loss of investment from the multinationals who pay my wages right down to car insurance being at Irish rates and paying ridiculous rates for delivery north of the border.
I don't believe anyone. I do however consider it as a risk/reward scenario and I see minimal potential upside from a Yes vote but plenty ways for everything to go wrong.
Everything from loss of investment from the multinationals who pay my wages right down to car insurance being at Irish rates and paying ridiculous rates for delivery north of the border.
Edited by jamieduff1981 on Friday 11th April 20:39
Canada for me,
Can't stand the EU, would be happy to be in the UK but not the EU. I can't do Scotland and EU. I need the Scotland to be similar to Norway. It just seems to me stupid that we vote for independence then have the EU tell us what is right and wrong for what rights prisoners have after murdering someone or saying what number plates we can have. I bought my private plate, if they want to change it then they own me whats its worth to me. And that's a about £60k so I can buy me a XKRS.
Can't stand the EU, would be happy to be in the UK but not the EU. I can't do Scotland and EU. I need the Scotland to be similar to Norway. It just seems to me stupid that we vote for independence then have the EU tell us what is right and wrong for what rights prisoners have after murdering someone or saying what number plates we can have. I bought my private plate, if they want to change it then they own me whats its worth to me. And that's a about £60k so I can buy me a XKRS.
I'll be staying. To save the excessive mileage driving up from England, through the Central Belt, to the Highlands etc. I'll happily "look after" all your fun cars...
You'd obviously need to add me to the insurance so I could ensure that the cars were suitably run each week or so to prevent any problems with vehicles lying for too long. ;-)
You'd obviously need to add me to the insurance so I could ensure that the cars were suitably run each week or so to prevent any problems with vehicles lying for too long. ;-)
If you don't know what to believe, why would you plan to leave prior to seeing how it affects you first?
Not really sure the North of England would be my choice. Quite a lot of places down there aren't doing too well.
I don't think that the vote will actually be yes. Places and people who aren't doing so well will quite possibly think they have nothing to lose. However I feel that enough people are doing well enough and others are just too scared of change.
There is too much uncertainty for people to commit to the change.
No matter if the vote is yes or no, I'd stay put and see how it affects me before I start thinking about making any changes.
Not really sure the North of England would be my choice. Quite a lot of places down there aren't doing too well.
I don't think that the vote will actually be yes. Places and people who aren't doing so well will quite possibly think they have nothing to lose. However I feel that enough people are doing well enough and others are just too scared of change.
There is too much uncertainty for people to commit to the change.
No matter if the vote is yes or no, I'd stay put and see how it affects me before I start thinking about making any changes.
citizensm1th said:
what makes the scots believe they will be able to just walk across the border after independence?
as citizens of a foreign nation outside of the EU you will need both passports and a visa
You don't need a passport or visa for Ireland.as citizens of a foreign nation outside of the EU you will need both passports and a visa
As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
Driver101 said:
You don't need a passport or visa for Ireland.
As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
but that a huge assumption your making there that the uk would agree to the same arrangement let alone the fact that Ireland is part of the EU and Scotland would not be, given that I believe EU member states are bound by treaty to have secure borders with non EU states.As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
so I ask where has anyone in the uk government stated that citizens of an independent Scotland would have free and unhindered access to the uk?
On the other hand UKIP and the Tories could take the UK out of europe whether Scotland likes it or not, while an independent Scotland might stay in while rUK is taken out of Europe.
If Englandshire wants borders I would be the last person to try and stop them, but if they do, why assume they will allow brass-plate registered offices in their territory or welcome more foreign johnnies who want to move to England on the promise of creating jobs?
As for Salmond et al ruining Scotland, does anyone actually believe that they could do much more than Westminster in that regard?
And why assume that the SNP would form the government post independence?? If enough people prefer the alternatives, the SNP would not be in power in an independent Scotland. Of course, you would have to hope there WAS an alternative, and who would want to see the country run by Jhann Lamont, Ruth Davidson or Willie Rennie?
If Englandshire wants borders I would be the last person to try and stop them, but if they do, why assume they will allow brass-plate registered offices in their territory or welcome more foreign johnnies who want to move to England on the promise of creating jobs?
As for Salmond et al ruining Scotland, does anyone actually believe that they could do much more than Westminster in that regard?
And why assume that the SNP would form the government post independence?? If enough people prefer the alternatives, the SNP would not be in power in an independent Scotland. Of course, you would have to hope there WAS an alternative, and who would want to see the country run by Jhann Lamont, Ruth Davidson or Willie Rennie?
citizensm1th said:
Driver101 said:
You don't need a passport or visa for Ireland.
As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
but that a huge assumption your making there that the uk would agree to the same arrangement let alone the fact that Ireland is part of the EU and Scotland would not be, given that I believe EU member states are bound by treaty to have secure borders with non EU states.As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
so I ask where has anyone in the uk government stated that citizens of an independent Scotland would have free and unhindered access to the uk?
Personally I doubt it would happen.
There is so many contradicting statements floating around it is hard to believe what is actually true on lots of matters.
Driver101 said:
citizensm1th said:
Driver101 said:
You don't need a passport or visa for Ireland.
As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
but that a huge assumption your making there that the uk would agree to the same arrangement let alone the fact that Ireland is part of the EU and Scotland would not be, given that I believe EU member states are bound by treaty to have secure borders with non EU states.As for the EU, there is two arguments to that too.
so I ask where has anyone in the uk government stated that citizens of an independent Scotland would have free and unhindered access to the uk?
Personally I doubt it would happen.
There is so many contradicting statements floating around it is hard to believe what is actually true on lots of matters.
naaaa I don't think so you were stating that you expect Scottish citizens to have the same rights as Irish ones with no evidence to back it up.
LHD said:
I'll be off.
I'm not hanging around to watch Salmond, Sturgeon and the other clowns ruin this country.
I'm trying so hard to keep out of this, but there are some really silly buggers on here.I'm not hanging around to watch Salmond, Sturgeon and the other clowns ruin this country.
The SNP won't be running the country. Waken up for god's sake! There will be an election and all the so called Westminster faithfuls from all parties will be only too happy to run for election in an independent Scotland.
How in the name of god can you justify this country being run by Westminster? They have positively devastated it for centuries. We have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Oh by the way, best of luck in England; and watch out for the bailiffs, millions of speed cameras, massive overpopulation; constant traffic jams, horrible accents, monstrous house prices, wheel clamps, nowhere to park, everyone fawning at the royal babies, the brutal parasitical London stock exchange, etc, etc.
J
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