July 27th - Possible Hoon? Any Interest?
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iand17 said:
Got home fine for 1.30 (2hrs earlier than planned ) car drives perfectly so ironically almost forgot about the damage on way home.
Checked briefly when I got home and all damage seems superficial but will need to get it checked out further and options. Unfortunately as both front and back clams are damaged replacement is £4500 + vat for the 2 parts as a starter so costs quickly mount up.
Sorry for messing up run, thanks Scott for organising, enjoy lunch and hope the afternoon run is good and uneventful, and the MR2 stays cool, thanks for your help and support. Not a good day for me but in reality could have been much worse in many ways.
Didn't mess it up at all Ian, just glad it wasn't a big off, hopefully it all gets fixed without too much fuss. Many scraping issues with that under tray on the way back?Checked briefly when I got home and all damage seems superficial but will need to get it checked out further and options. Unfortunately as both front and back clams are damaged replacement is £4500 + vat for the 2 parts as a starter so costs quickly mount up.
Sorry for messing up run, thanks Scott for organising, enjoy lunch and hope the afternoon run is good and uneventful, and the MR2 stays cool, thanks for your help and support. Not a good day for me but in reality could have been much worse in many ways.
Lunch was good, I'll be remembering that for the next run out that way. I only overheated 2 more times after you left, you all laughed for me bringing 25 litres of water with me too!
OlberJ said:
Scott, what seems to be the issue with the Mr2 then? It over heating after a hard blast?
Ian, sounds painful, was it just a matter of some garbage weather?
The engine is on it's last legs, it's been a saga with the car but the short version is that one of the many problems is a crack in the block. Luckily no water is getting into the cylinder or oil so it's been sealed to try and wring the last life out of it. So far so good but it won't last forever. Ian, sounds painful, was it just a matter of some garbage weather?
Yesterdays problems though are off the back of the week befores trip to crail I think. We overheated there and I've not got all the air locks out of it since I don't think. I was fine for a while yesterday then the air lock moves, kills the flow and POP!. Without a jack and hours of your time, it's impossible to get them all out. The bleeding routine is rediculous!
I've got work to do this week to see if I can stop it from overheating so often but we're planning a new engine this winter once we can find one as the rest of the car is spot on, no rust and all the suspension is newly put on by us, new brakes etc. so when it does run, it runs well. I'm also going to do some work on the colling system while it's out, new hard pipes need put in, better rad etc. to try and keep it cool. Should be great once that happens!
Glad you know what's causing it!
2 tips for you :
1) Take out the turbo engine and fit a V6
Especially if you're tracking the car.
2) Simply jack the back end up in the air fairly high when bleeding it and it makes it so much easier to bleed. It's a faff doing it but as long as there's no other issues with the piping you'll find jacking it up works wonders.
2 tips for you :
1) Take out the turbo engine and fit a V6
Especially if you're tracking the car.2) Simply jack the back end up in the air fairly high when bleeding it and it makes it so much easier to bleed. It's a faff doing it but as long as there's no other issues with the piping you'll find jacking it up works wonders.
OlberJ said:
Scott, what seems to be the issue with the Mr2 then? It over heating after a hard blast?
Ian, sounds painful, was it just a matter of some garbage weather?
Yes mixed conditions, was being partly cautious (not enough though !) with lower speed, higher gears, lot lower revs and acceleration than I would in the dry in and out corners but it still slides very easily exiting wet/damp exiting corners and roundabouts, road was damp and one of those particularly slippy surfaces but no excuses, i was well within speed limits but I just couldn't get it straight again after exiting corner and the initial slide so ended up spinning. All repairable as it is all fibreglass, speed wasn't high and anything can be done, the front is a clean break of the corner and the metal diffuser has taken most of the rear impact (unfortunately not quite all) and folded in the middle so it isn't that complicated but if you stick to genuine parts, replace only rather than rebuild plus professional paint job the parts and labour soon add up. Sending photos to a couple of places and will probably go over to Colin at performance bodyshop for a chat and discussion about options, spoke to him previously about other work and at Porsche in the Glen although I've not used him before. Ian, sounds painful, was it just a matter of some garbage weather?
Surprisingly although the folded edge of diffuser must be less than inch off the ground I could drive home at normal traffic pace, it must be because the fold is just behind the rears wheels it only caught once the whole way home (not even on all those speed humps I was expecting it to ground badly on them)
OlberJ said:
Just one of those things then, glad you're alright and the car's not too bad!
Colin @ Performance Bodyshop comes highly recommended though.
The local farmer who strolled down around 15 mins afterwards said it's a regular occurrence going both ways on this bend.Colin @ Performance Bodyshop comes highly recommended though.
The surface on the road was super greasy, wet, poorly maintained tarmac.
I was directly behind and have forwarded Ian the vid.
Dougie.
edit, can also get gps coords if required Ian.
Edited by driver67 on Tuesday 29th July 22:37
driver67 said:
The local farmer who strolled down around 15 mins afterwards said it's a regular occurrence going both ways on this bend.
The surface on the road was super greasy, wet, poorly maintained tarmac.
I was directly behind and have forwarded Ian the vid.
Dougie.
edit, can also get gps coords if required Ian.
The surface was terrible on that bend, smooth tar rather than a normal road surface. The surface on the road was super greasy, wet, poorly maintained tarmac.
I was directly behind and have forwarded Ian the vid.
Dougie.
edit, can also get gps coords if required Ian.
Edited by driver67 on Tuesday 29th July 22:37
Olie, I had thought about a V6, but I just love the delivery of the turbo too much! It's childish but I love the old school way of a laggy big turbo, plus the wastegate is nice! I can't imagine how tight the engine bay is with a V6 in there too, it's hard enough to get any work done to it already thanks to the access. Many a burnt hand so far!
The bleeding is remarkably easier with a jack sicne the thermostat came out too, takes half the time, I guess since there is less places for the air to gather. I have started puting pressure cap to half way and running a fast idle 2 or 3 times when you "think" it's filled. Wee tip from the OC and it does help get that last litre in there.
I think I need to find a nice compact portable jack that can fit under the car I can carry with me though. The only jack I have that fits under (with about 5mm of clearance) is the big trolley jack. It's not exactly ideal to have that monster rolling round in the boot! I'd have no space for all the water I carry
Edited by DottyMR2 on Wednesday 30th July 16:38
Edited by DottyMR2 on Wednesday 30th July 16:38
iand17 said:
Nope near Cumnock.
Final confirmation for bodyshop in Edinburgh, estimated repair costs are £16500 on a car worth £14500, so after 4 years of Elise ownership, it will be written off :-(
Final confirmation for bodyshop in Edinburgh, estimated repair costs are £16500 on a car worth £14500, so after 4 years of Elise ownership, it will be written off :-(
damn, sorry to hear that, what totalled it up to that if you don't mind me asking? Didn't think it caused that much damage when seeing it.What's the plan then, take the money and get something else or go for another elise?
Lotus price for genuine new front clam is priced at £4900, rear is £4400 as a starter before any painting and fitting, not that there is any availability.
Elise has been an amazing car but don't think an Elise. I've been browsing and researching/fantasising random cars I've liked the look of in the past whether I think they are suitable or not - Focus RS Mk 1, Porsche Boxster or 968 Club Sport, Renault R26R to see if they are in the same or less price range but really undecided.
Alternatively son just passed his driving test today and there is some 'family views' we should by a sensible 2nd car he is able to drive.
Elise has been an amazing car but don't think an Elise. I've been browsing and researching/fantasising random cars I've liked the look of in the past whether I think they are suitable or not - Focus RS Mk 1, Porsche Boxster or 968 Club Sport, Renault R26R to see if they are in the same or less price range but really undecided.
Alternatively son just passed his driving test today and there is some 'family views' we should by a sensible 2nd car he is able to drive.
Edited by iand17 on Friday 5th September 00:13
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