A9 average speed cameras
Discussion
Bohally said:
Has anybody actually been or lnow anybody that has received a ticket yet?
Just come up from Perth to Inverness this afternoon - made sure the sat nav averaged 60 on the S/C sections but was making progress on the D/C's (On the basis they aren't covered!).
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-drivers-speeding-on-dual-carriageways-of-a9-1-3670358Just come up from Perth to Inverness this afternoon - made sure the sat nav averaged 60 on the S/C sections but was making progress on the D/C's (On the basis they aren't covered!).
Covered by other means.
Dryce said:
Bohally said:
Has anybody actually been or lnow anybody that has received a ticket yet?
Just come up from Perth to Inverness this afternoon - made sure the sat nav averaged 60 on the S/C sections but was making progress on the D/C's (On the basis they aren't covered!).
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/more-driver...Just come up from Perth to Inverness this afternoon - made sure the sat nav averaged 60 on the S/C sections but was making progress on the D/C's (On the basis they aren't covered!).
Covered by other means.
Scotsman said:
The average speed cameras, which measure speed over set distances, only cover single carriageway stretches between Perth and Inverness because these account for most deaths on that part of the road.
However, they also cover the dual carriageway section from Perth to the Keir roundabout, south of Dunblane, because of “high severity” crashes involving vehicles turning at cross-over junctions.
These junctions, of course, used to be equipped with Gatso cameras. Maybe some of the money (£3m) wasted on the average speed cameras would have been better put to use improving the junctions?However, they also cover the dual carriageway section from Perth to the Keir roundabout, south of Dunblane, because of “high severity” crashes involving vehicles turning at cross-over junctions.
MDT said:
Are the Duel sections really not covered be the average speed camera's ?? The last few times I have been up that way some guys were "making progress" on the Duel sections but I was worried they would be local's and turning off down some wee side road before the next camera!!!!
They're definitely not (north of Perth). The cameras operate in pairs. The road angel confirms this as it stops flashing on the dual sections. (Plus I have made some 'good' progress here and have had nothing in the post....)jamesbeaumont said:
MDT said:
Are the Duel sections really not covered be the average speed camera's ?? The last few times I have been up that way some guys were "making progress" on the Duel sections but I was worried they would be local's and turning off down some wee side road before the next camera!!!!
They're definitely not (north of Perth). The cameras operate in pairs. The road angel confirms this as it stops flashing on the dual sections. (Plus I have made some 'good' progress here and have had nothing in the post....)Assuming they can time you from the last one before you go DC, and the first one after you come back off it, working out the appropriate speed over the (mostly DC) part and comparing it is pretty simple?
s2kjock said:
jamesbeaumont said:
MDT said:
Are the Duel sections really not covered be the average speed camera's ?? The last few times I have been up that way some guys were "making progress" on the Duel sections but I was worried they would be local's and turning off down some wee side road before the next camera!!!!
They're definitely not (north of Perth). The cameras operate in pairs. The road angel confirms this as it stops flashing on the dual sections. (Plus I have made some 'good' progress here and have had nothing in the post....)Assuming they can time you from the last one before you go DC, and the first one after you come back off it, working out the appropriate speed over the (mostly DC) part and comparing it is pretty simple?
jamesbeaumont said:
There's no way they could provide an accurate calculation of % over the speed limit as the cameras end/start quite a distance either side of the DC sections so cover some 60 section as well. They couldn't prosecute with such vagueness.
Well...It wouldn't be that vague if your average was 150mph I suppose. I doubt they'd bother checking between those cameras anyway if there's no automatic booking of speeding between the 2 points.
I don't see why you couldn't measure people going above the average speed limit despite the speed limit changes but I'd imagine it's just easier and more convenient to let the fast traffic through on the DC
jamesbeaumont said:
MDT said:
Are the Duel sections really not covered be the average speed camera's ?? The last few times I have been up that way some guys were "making progress" on the Duel sections but I was worried they would be local's and turning off down some wee side road before the next camera!!!!
They're definitely not (north of Perth). The cameras operate in pairs. The road angel confirms this as it stops flashing on the dual sections. (Plus I have made some 'good' progress here and have had nothing in the post....)Which Road Angle do you have that shows the average speed sections??????
ModernAndy said:
Well...
It wouldn't be that vague if your average was 150mph I suppose. I doubt they'd bother checking between those cameras anyway if there's no automatic booking of speeding between the 2 points.
I don't see why you couldn't measure people going above the average speed limit despite the speed limit changes but I'd imagine it's just easier and more convenient to let the fast traffic through on the DC
They'd have to be specific about how far over you were. 1mph could make the difference between 3 and 6 points etc.It wouldn't be that vague if your average was 150mph I suppose. I doubt they'd bother checking between those cameras anyway if there's no automatic booking of speeding between the 2 points.
I don't see why you couldn't measure people going above the average speed limit despite the speed limit changes but I'd imagine it's just easier and more convenient to let the fast traffic through on the DC
MDT said:
Jamesbeaumount, good news and please to hear this. I was wondering how this would work as some of the camera's are a good bit before and after the DC sections and to get an average speed through a section which went say 60mph - 70mph - 60mph could be quite tricky.
Which Road Angle do you have that shows the average speed sections??????
I have the Gem. It tells you which parts are in zones and also what your average throughout each section is. Handy...Which Road Angle do you have that shows the average speed sections??????
Dr Jekyll said:
jamesbeaumont said:
They'd have to be specific about how far over you were. 1mph could make the difference between 3 and 6 points etc.
I don't think so, they'd just have to show you were over the limit.Can someone confirm for me the stretch after the roundabout for Dunblane where the first camera South is up to Broxden services is a 70 limit, I sat at a sat nav verified 66/67 the whole way and I was passing everyone, they were all doing whati presume was 55, which panicked me thinking maybe its now a 60 stretch.
HendryG said:
Can someone confirm for me the stretch after the roundabout for Dunblane where the first camera South is up to Broxden services is a 70 limit, I sat at a sat nav verified 66/67 the whole way and I was passing everyone, they were all doing whati presume was 55, which panicked me thinking maybe its now a 60 stretch.
Confident you'll be fine - 70mph zone.HendryG said:
Can someone confirm for me the stretch after the roundabout for Dunblane where the first camera South is up to Broxden services is a 70 limit, I sat at a sat nav verified 66/67 the whole way and I was passing everyone, they were all doing whati presume was 55, which panicked me thinking maybe its now a 60 stretch.
Of course its a 70mph limit. Lots of idiots thing a DC is 60. I set my cruise to 75 (which is pretty much an accurate 70). Imagine how fast I pass the sheep.Spitfire2 said:
HendryG said:
Can someone confirm for me the stretch after the roundabout for Dunblane where the first camera South is up to Broxden services is a 70 limit, I sat at a sat nav verified 66/67 the whole way and I was passing everyone, they were all doing whati presume was 55, which panicked me thinking maybe its now a 60 stretch.
Of course its a 70mph limit. Lots of idiots think a DC is 60. I set my cruise to 75 (which is pretty much an accurate 70). Imagine how fast I pass the sheep.
Spitfire2 said:
Of course its a 70mph limit. Lots of idiots thing a DC is 60. I set my cruise to 75 (which is pretty much an accurate 70). Imagine how fast I pass the sheep.
Perhaps they're all in fuel save mode 
Also, you might notice a lot of sheep as obviously you'll never catch up the people who are doing 75 too!
If I believe everything in this thread then someone I know should be expecting a massive haul of points to be added to their license going forward - VW Transporter van (gross max weight 3000kg) doing 70-75mph (68-73mph on satnav) from Perth to Glasgow on the A9... How long does the points notification letters take to arrive then?
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