A9 average speed cameras
Discussion
I travel the A9 (Broxden) to M9 (Dunblane) on a weekly basis heading to Glasgow.
I must admit the standard of driving has greatly improved since the installation of the SPECS. I'm a big boy but there has been occasions where the driving has been dangerous and scary and I've called it quits, pulled in behind an artic and cruised at 60 whilst the madness ahead clears.
Scenes of 4 - 5 cars in severe wet conditions and poor visibility bunched up together in the fast lane with as little as 1 meter of distance between, harassing some sod ahead who ultimately is driving to the conditions but has failed to yield to the slow lane to allow them to pass.
General tail-gating, undertaking at speed and the above all seem to have stopped.
The SPECS seem to have 'guided' 99 % of drivers into the slow lane, allowing the fast lane clear at all times to allow others to progress or pass without hindrance or meet a 'lane hogger'. I think this in general has made everything alot safer.
There is also the added fun of watching vehicles 'snail race' and overtake each other at 71mph for the sake of progressing one vehicle infront... I still cant work that one out.
I set cruise control to 75 and travel pretty much the entire stretch in the open fast lane, and pass the majority of the slow lane, with a few flashing me to warn that I'm going to get a ticket
Travel the route 6 times a week since the installation and not received any ticket.
I must admit the standard of driving has greatly improved since the installation of the SPECS. I'm a big boy but there has been occasions where the driving has been dangerous and scary and I've called it quits, pulled in behind an artic and cruised at 60 whilst the madness ahead clears.
Scenes of 4 - 5 cars in severe wet conditions and poor visibility bunched up together in the fast lane with as little as 1 meter of distance between, harassing some sod ahead who ultimately is driving to the conditions but has failed to yield to the slow lane to allow them to pass.
General tail-gating, undertaking at speed and the above all seem to have stopped.
The SPECS seem to have 'guided' 99 % of drivers into the slow lane, allowing the fast lane clear at all times to allow others to progress or pass without hindrance or meet a 'lane hogger'. I think this in general has made everything alot safer.
There is also the added fun of watching vehicles 'snail race' and overtake each other at 71mph for the sake of progressing one vehicle infront... I still cant work that one out.
I set cruise control to 75 and travel pretty much the entire stretch in the open fast lane, and pass the majority of the slow lane, with a few flashing me to warn that I'm going to get a ticket
Travel the route 6 times a week since the installation and not received any ticket.
ModernAndy said:
Edinburger said:
Vipers said:
Mojocvh said:
Vipers said:
Bit worrying someone on here is driving on a dual carriageway without knowing the speed limit, lack of observation, or knoweldge.
Well, welcome to utopia. HEY! you were giving it the big YES so don't you dare comment or offer a quandary opinion.
Me, I don't give a s
t. Tough, you wanted the promised land, well now you have it.BTW please keep on reminding all the rest of us real Scots how hard it is now the oil price has ....
Oh sorry, we don't actually give a s
t, having been there the last ten years or so.. enjoy your burgeoning Aberdonian enclave...for the time being...
Edited by Mojocvh on Saturday 14th February 01:41
good job I ducked, meanwhile just off to the beach, been a tad hot today 32 degrees.
lxm said:
I travel the A9 (Broxden) to M9 (Dunblane) on a weekly basis heading to Glasgow.
I must admit the standard of driving has greatly improved since the installation of the SPECS. I'm a big boy but there has been occasions where the driving has been dangerous and scary and I've called it quits, pulled in behind an artic and cruised at 60 whilst the madness ahead clears.
Scenes of 4 - 5 cars in severe wet conditions and poor visibility bunched up together in the fast lane with as little as 1 meter of distance between, harassing some sod ahead who ultimately is driving to the conditions but has failed to yield to the slow lane to allow them to pass.
General tail-gating, undertaking at speed and the above all seem to have stopped.
The SPECS seem to have 'guided' 99 % of drivers into the slow lane, allowing the fast lane clear at all times to allow others to progress or pass without hindrance or meet a 'lane hogger'. I think this in general has made everything alot safer.
There is also the added fun of watching vehicles 'snail race' and overtake each other at 71mph for the sake of progressing one vehicle infront... I still cant work that one out.
I set cruise control to 75 and travel pretty much the entire stretch in the open fast lane, and pass the majority of the slow lane, with a few flashing me to warn that I'm going to get a ticket
Travel the route 6 times a week since the installation and not received any ticket.
Perhaps they're flashing you to invite you back to the left side of the road - where we drive in this country? I must admit the standard of driving has greatly improved since the installation of the SPECS. I'm a big boy but there has been occasions where the driving has been dangerous and scary and I've called it quits, pulled in behind an artic and cruised at 60 whilst the madness ahead clears.
Scenes of 4 - 5 cars in severe wet conditions and poor visibility bunched up together in the fast lane with as little as 1 meter of distance between, harassing some sod ahead who ultimately is driving to the conditions but has failed to yield to the slow lane to allow them to pass.
General tail-gating, undertaking at speed and the above all seem to have stopped.
The SPECS seem to have 'guided' 99 % of drivers into the slow lane, allowing the fast lane clear at all times to allow others to progress or pass without hindrance or meet a 'lane hogger'. I think this in general has made everything alot safer.
There is also the added fun of watching vehicles 'snail race' and overtake each other at 71mph for the sake of progressing one vehicle infront... I still cant work that one out.
I set cruise control to 75 and travel pretty much the entire stretch in the open fast lane, and pass the majority of the slow lane, with a few flashing me to warn that I'm going to get a ticket
Travel the route 6 times a week since the installation and not received any ticket.
I was driving a car Southbound through Aviemore today and on a whim, stayed on the old road B9152 (towards the Highland Wildlife Park direction) instead of re-joining the A9. Couldn't help noticing I was making better progress on the at times curvy (more interesting) road than the traffic on the A9 which is often in view. Plenty of straight parts to overtake, if necessary but there's hardly any traffic on it.
bigwheel said:
I was driving a car Southbound through Aviemore today and on a whim, stayed on the old road B9152 (towards the Highland Wildlife Park direction) instead of re-joining the A9. Couldn't help noticing I was making better progress on the at times curvy (more interesting) road than the traffic on the A9 which is often in view. Plenty of straight parts to overtake, if necessary but there's hardly any traffic on it.
All well and good, but the number of times I've seen camera vans or police cars with laser guns on that road really doesn't make it an attractive proposition.Not A9 ..but camera van parked on Glenurquhart road in Inverness this morning just up from cemetery gates. As luck would have it I was turning into cemetery so wasn't going fast ?.. I hope.
Not in Inverness a lot any more but will look out for them around town now when I am there.
Maybe a heads up for some.
Cheers
Not in Inverness a lot any more but will look out for them around town now when I am there.
Maybe a heads up for some.
Cheers
Can these A9 average speed cameras detect different types of vehicles?
I had to take a Citroen Relay LWB van from my works Glasgow depot to Broxden Services to swap over with a driver from our Aberdeen depot a few weeks back, as the dual carriageway section between Broxden and Dunblane is a 70 limit i sat between 65 and 68 mph all the way there, now ive been told I should've been doing 60 or less as this is the dual carriageway speed limit for not only trucksz buses and HGVs but any sort of goods vehicle, including ordinary vans, so effectively I sped by between 5 and 8 mph all the way there, so just wondering if the cameras can pick up that I was in a van and shouldve been doing less than 60 or if they simply prosecute anything above 70 and that's it and providing no matter what you drive you average less than that you won't get done?
Now panicking I'm going to get a NIP when I wasn't aware I'd done anything wrong.
I had to take a Citroen Relay LWB van from my works Glasgow depot to Broxden Services to swap over with a driver from our Aberdeen depot a few weeks back, as the dual carriageway section between Broxden and Dunblane is a 70 limit i sat between 65 and 68 mph all the way there, now ive been told I should've been doing 60 or less as this is the dual carriageway speed limit for not only trucksz buses and HGVs but any sort of goods vehicle, including ordinary vans, so effectively I sped by between 5 and 8 mph all the way there, so just wondering if the cameras can pick up that I was in a van and shouldve been doing less than 60 or if they simply prosecute anything above 70 and that's it and providing no matter what you drive you average less than that you won't get done?
Now panicking I'm going to get a NIP when I wasn't aware I'd done anything wrong.
HendryG said:
Can these A9 average speed cameras detect different types of vehicles?
I had to take a Citroen Relay LWB van from my works Glasgow depot to Broxden Services to swap over with a driver from our Aberdeen depot a few weeks back, as the dual carriageway section between Broxden and Dunblane is a 70 limit i sat between 65 and 68 mph all the way there, now ive been told I should've been doing 60 or less as this is the dual carriageway speed limit for not only trucksz buses and HGVs but any sort of goods vehicle, including ordinary vans, so effectively I sped by between 5 and 8 mph all the way there, so just wondering if the cameras can pick up that I was in a van and shouldve been doing less than 60 or if they simply prosecute anything above 70 and that's it and providing no matter what you drive you average less than that you won't get done?
Now panicking I'm going to get a NIP when I wasn't aware I'd done anything wrong.
You should be alright with the 10% + 2 rule (although according to some, it's potentially not as simple as that in all cases and I am definitely not a lawyer). In case you weren't aware, you should also be doing a maximum of 50 on single carriageways to avoid run ins with the law when in a van (that's not car derived and has a weight plate, etc, etc, etc).I had to take a Citroen Relay LWB van from my works Glasgow depot to Broxden Services to swap over with a driver from our Aberdeen depot a few weeks back, as the dual carriageway section between Broxden and Dunblane is a 70 limit i sat between 65 and 68 mph all the way there, now ive been told I should've been doing 60 or less as this is the dual carriageway speed limit for not only trucksz buses and HGVs but any sort of goods vehicle, including ordinary vans, so effectively I sped by between 5 and 8 mph all the way there, so just wondering if the cameras can pick up that I was in a van and shouldve been doing less than 60 or if they simply prosecute anything above 70 and that's it and providing no matter what you drive you average less than that you won't get done?
Now panicking I'm going to get a NIP when I wasn't aware I'd done anything wrong.
ModernAndy said:
You should be alright with the 10% + 2 rule (although according to some, it's potentially not as simple as that in all cases and I am definitely not a lawyer). In case you weren't aware, you should also be doing a maximum of 50 on single carriageways to avoid run ins with the law when in a van (that's not car derived and has a weight plate, etc, etc, etc).
Yes I know that now.Does the whole 10%+2 thing apply to exceeding speed limits for a particular type of vehicle, I assumed it just applied to cars exceeding the absolute maximum limit.
The other thing which worries me is if I do get done for "speeding" I.e. doing 68 in a 70 when I should've been doing 60 in a 70, then will I just get one ticket even though ive passed "several sets of 2 average cameras" for a whole 30 mile stretch, or will I get a ticket for each and every different set of cameras sequentially, potentially meaning I could get several different speeding tickets for the same day, same vehicle, minutes apart?
I suppose what I'm asking is, say for example I did 100mph through 70mph average cameras of which theres say 12 cameras, thus 6 sets of 2 Would I then get 6 different tickets 1 after the other or just 1 ticket for the entire stretch of cameras?
HendryG said:
Can these A9 average speed cameras detect different types of vehicles?
I had to take a Citroen Relay LWB van from my works Glasgow depot to Broxden Services to swap over with a driver from our Aberdeen depot a few weeks back, as the dual carriageway section between Broxden and Dunblane is a 70 limit i sat between 65 and 68 mph all the way there, now ive been told I should've been doing 60 or less as this is the dual carriageway speed limit for not only trucksz buses and HGVs but any sort of goods vehicle, including ordinary vans, so effectively I sped by between 5 and 8 mph all the way there, so just wondering if the cameras can pick up that I was in a van and shouldve been doing less than 60 or if they simply prosecute anything above 70 and that's it and providing no matter what you drive you average less than that you won't get done?
Now panicking I'm going to get a NIP when I wasn't aware I'd done anything wrong.
They don't need to detect your type of vehicle, they read your number plate. The number is in the DVLA database, and along with that the type/ class of vehicle. If the computer says "bust him" then you'll get a ticket.I had to take a Citroen Relay LWB van from my works Glasgow depot to Broxden Services to swap over with a driver from our Aberdeen depot a few weeks back, as the dual carriageway section between Broxden and Dunblane is a 70 limit i sat between 65 and 68 mph all the way there, now ive been told I should've been doing 60 or less as this is the dual carriageway speed limit for not only trucksz buses and HGVs but any sort of goods vehicle, including ordinary vans, so effectively I sped by between 5 and 8 mph all the way there, so just wondering if the cameras can pick up that I was in a van and shouldve been doing less than 60 or if they simply prosecute anything above 70 and that's it and providing no matter what you drive you average less than that you won't get done?
Now panicking I'm going to get a NIP when I wasn't aware I'd done anything wrong.
Mad Jock said:
They don't need to detect your type of vehicle, they read your number plate. The number is in the DVLA database, and along with that the type/ class of vehicle. If the computer says "bust him" then you'll get a ticket.
Fair enough, will I just get 1 or will it be several, technically I sped for the whole 30miles of cameras which I'm told barring the first camera can tell if you've been speeding between each and every one, there's 11 other than the one at the start so potentially 11 different offences depending on how they prosecute. HendryG said:
So I'm fked then basically and just need to hope that I only get 1 ticket as opposed to multiple.
I did the same on tues but sat at around 73 when I should have been doing 60. I was asking a policeman friend the other day. He reckons in theory they can give you multiple but they generally pick the worse offence and give you that. So I'm guessing I'll probably get one for going and my return journey, as long as I keep my license I'll be happy tbh. Like above says they have to send you the ticket within 14 days so you should be fine. I'm still crapping ked then basically and just need to hope that I only get 1 ticket as opposed to multiple.
One of my colleagues got caught a few weeks ago by one of the cameras on the A90. 73 in a Transit Connect.
What made him feel particularly stupid was the fact that the day before I'd said to him "Stevie, don't forget that your van is limited to 60 mph on a dual carriageway". He didn't believe me. He does now.
What made him feel particularly stupid was the fact that the day before I'd said to him "Stevie, don't forget that your van is limited to 60 mph on a dual carriageway". He didn't believe me. He does now.
Just reading the paper today, it says there are no speed limit signs on the 100 miles of A9, and as it changes from dual carriageway to single carriageway drivers are being caught, and can speed limits be erected.
I can understand it when the AA said tourists are getting caught out, (I assume foreign tourists), but it's worrying that 1 in 3 motorists who regularly use the A9 DIDNT know the speed limit on the dual carriageway stretches.
Are drivers that stupid, guess they are.
I can understand it when the AA said tourists are getting caught out, (I assume foreign tourists), but it's worrying that 1 in 3 motorists who regularly use the A9 DIDNT know the speed limit on the dual carriageway stretches.
Are drivers that stupid, guess they are.
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