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I'll ask this question again. (Asked elsewhere!)
Why are there signs telling drivers that the cameras are not in operation? Surley, in the interest of "safety", there should be no signs at all, and let the traffic scare itself into driving more slowly.
After all, that's the whole point, isn't it?
The signs are almost suggesting that drivers need to speed up. Why?
Could it be that this is an admission by "them" that the non-operational cameras are causing traffic hold ups? If so, just what do they expect will happen when the cameras go live?
Why are there signs telling drivers that the cameras are not in operation? Surley, in the interest of "safety", there should be no signs at all, and let the traffic scare itself into driving more slowly.
After all, that's the whole point, isn't it?
The signs are almost suggesting that drivers need to speed up. Why?
Could it be that this is an admission by "them" that the non-operational cameras are causing traffic hold ups? If so, just what do they expect will happen when the cameras go live?
Stwdv said:
I see another pile up just outside Dunkeld.
It must have been about 20 mins after me on my journey up this morning
Still people overtaking 2/3 lorries just hoping nothing coming the other way, not sure cameras are going to stop stupid driving !!!!
This is the problem. The road itself is okay. It is the fact is has so much single lane, and lorries heading North have no other option. It should have been made Dual all the way.It must have been about 20 mins after me on my journey up this morning
Still people overtaking 2/3 lorries just hoping nothing coming the other way, not sure cameras are going to stop stupid driving !!!!
TheD said:
This is the problem. The road itself is okay. It is the fact is has so much single lane, and lorries heading North have no other option. It should have been made Dual all the way.
At a cost of £3bn we could have lots of patrol cars for that, and they would be a deterrent ??Regular user of the A9 and I have the clear impression that the traffic is slower and tail backs longer in the recent few weeks , even although the cameras are clearly not in operation...
I travelled home to Elgin via Dundee & Aberdeen yesterday and not the only person in our business doing the same now.
Maybe a few more miles and an extra 15/20 minutes dependant what time you get thru Aberdeen , but feel a lot less frustrated and more relaxed after the east coast journey .
Regards
B
I travelled home to Elgin via Dundee & Aberdeen yesterday and not the only person in our business doing the same now.
Maybe a few more miles and an extra 15/20 minutes dependant what time you get thru Aberdeen , but feel a lot less frustrated and more relaxed after the east coast journey .
Regards
B
I hadn't realised that they are putting the cameras on the entire 30 mile length of dual carriageway between Stirling (well, Dunblane) and Perth. Had thought it was just on single carriageway sections with the expectation that they woud be removed as each section was dualled. The http://a9road.info/ website suggests in the FAQ that the cameras will be retained on that section "until wider improvements, including junction improvements, have been delivered", but I won't hold my breath. I reckon Big Brother is here to stay.
There are no dual carriageway sections within the camera zones. Theres a very effective way of dealing with these cameras... The Road Angel Gem calculates an average speed between each camera. Use this and you can get your average speed bang on every time. An average of around 64/65 in most south sections would be good going!
jamesbeaumont said:
There are no dual carriageway sections within the camera zones. Theres a very effective way of dealing with these cameras... The Road Angel Gem calculates an average speed between each camera. Use this and you can get your average speed bang on every time. An average of around 64/65 in most south sections would be good going!
There are a few between Perth and InvernessI went up the A9 from Perth to Aviemore on Friday night, and with a bit of rain, moderate traffic, darkness, reckon I'd struggle to average close to 60mph between any cameras.
Daytime at any time of year, traffic volumes are such these days that I can't see myself getting close to exceeding the average limit between cameras.
I suspect I will only have to be careful on very early morning or evening runs in the summer.
I'm still not convinced they won't be used to cover dual carriageway sections however - technically there seems to be no reason why they couldn't be?
Daytime at any time of year, traffic volumes are such these days that I can't see myself getting close to exceeding the average limit between cameras.
I suspect I will only have to be careful on very early morning or evening runs in the summer.
I'm still not convinced they won't be used to cover dual carriageway sections however - technically there seems to be no reason why they couldn't be?
jamesbeaumont said:
There are no dual carriageway sections within the camera zones. Theres a very effective way of dealing with these cameras... The Road Angel Gem calculates an average speed between each camera. Use this and you can get your average speed bang on every time. An average of around 64/65 in most south sections would be good going!
The bit from Bridge of Allan to Perth is all dual carriageway and has SPECS all over it.ianrb said:
The bit from Bridge of Allan to Perth is all dual carriageway and has SPECS all over it.
Yup. I commute up there every day, not looking forward to the cameras being turned on. It does make me chuckle just now seeing the occasional person brake for the new average speed cameras. If they where observant enough they would see the signs saying they're not active, if they where clever enough they would know what average means.
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