New Drink Drive limits
Discussion
Halmyre said:
Speaking as an SNP supporter, this is one of the things that hacks me off about the SNP. Stop pissing about with footling little things like this and concentrate on the bigger issues.
This measure will not make a blind bit of difference to the real problem, which is those drivers who persistently and knowingly drive while way over the limit.
After 5th December I'll instantly be a criminal and a menace to society if I accompany my pub lunch with a pint of Deuchar's. I'll be classed alongside some pissed-up a
hole who's decided to drive home after a night on the batter. Where's the justice in that?
When back up in Scotland, pop down the nearby pub FOR A PINT and listen to some live music, in the car as I live in the country and a bit too far to walk (and it would be a mile along an unlit road with no actual footways, where cars, buses, trucks, foreign drivers regularly drive in excess of the 40mpg limit :-get nickedThis measure will not make a blind bit of difference to the real problem, which is those drivers who persistently and knowingly drive while way over the limit.
After 5th December I'll instantly be a criminal and a menace to society if I accompany my pub lunch with a pint of Deuchar's. I'll be classed alongside some pissed-up a
hole who's decided to drive home after a night on the batter. Where's the justice in that?Yet all day long I see people on mobile phones while driving and not concentrating on the road, yesterday (down here in Yorkshire, TWO artics jumped the lights in front of me at Scotch Corner roundabout. The second one actually gave me the finger as he did it!
And how many uninsured drivers are there?
And as for the idiots that tailgate me, just looking for an accident.
Sorry but I don't see the 50 -80mg people being the problem, its the ones who drink 4, 5 maybe 8 pints and you won't stop them as they aren't concerned about the current limits.
The young girl texting as she knocks over and kills the elderly lady
The idiot drinking from the Vodka bottle as he drives and kills three cyclists.
This latest drink ruling and other rules coming into Scotland over the next few months and years worrys and concerns me.
Have you read about Scotlands Govt funding a campain where they go around works car parks, checking tyre pressures and "adjusting" them. Read all about that one in GG
Edited by Skyedriver on Tuesday 18th November 22:26
ModernAndy said:
Quick question as I'm too lazy to look into this myself but would the punishment for being above the new limit but below the old limit be terribly severe or would it be a bit of a slap on the wrist?
I never mix drinking and driving so it's of no great concern to me, just curious.
According to the front page of The Herald today, the penalty will be the same 12 month ban as at present for breaching the higher limit.I never mix drinking and driving so it's of no great concern to me, just curious.
Will certainly be an interesting contrast that someone with an existing conviction after a pint in Scotland could lose their license and have their car taken from them. The same person driving after a pint in England would see Police sending the person on their way and wishing them a good day.
No data to back up my hypothesis, however I think this tactic is to get back at the drinks companies for refusing to co-operate with the minimum unit alcohol pricing proposals.
Most of the drinks companies already met/meet the 50p per unit price, but it would have removed the real nasty, cheap ste alcohol from the shelves like Frosty Jack, Omega, Super Lager etc etc, and that would have saved lives.
Now, a hell of a lot of people are going to be far more aware of what and when they consume alcohol which equals less revenue for the drinks companies.
As a general SNP supporter, it is things like this and the OB at football act that stops me supporting them fully; however, McAskill is out on his ear now so I wonder if things might change?
Most of the drinks companies already met/meet the 50p per unit price, but it would have removed the real nasty, cheap s
te alcohol from the shelves like Frosty Jack, Omega, Super Lager etc etc, and that would have saved lives. Now, a hell of a lot of people are going to be far more aware of what and when they consume alcohol which equals less revenue for the drinks companies.
As a general SNP supporter, it is things like this and the OB at football act that stops me supporting them fully; however, McAskill is out on his ear now so I wonder if things might change?
Edited by stevoknevo on Friday 21st November 21:26
I think it's a shame that I will no longer be able to pop to the pub for Sunday lunch and enjoy a single pint with my Dad.
I would like to see the evidence that 'drink drivers' between the current limit and the new limit are a particular issue compared to drink drivers who are significantly over the limit.
I would like to see the evidence that 'drink drivers' between the current limit and the new limit are a particular issue compared to drink drivers who are significantly over the limit.
So the amount of alcohol left in an individual's blood at any given time will be different from person to person and we never truly know exactly how many units have been consumed due to varying measures/strengths.
The more I think about it, the crazier it seems - even thinking about the current limit.
Surely some mind of sobriety test would make more sense, if you fail - then let's investigate exactly how much you've drank ??
I'm not advocating DD at all but policing it this way just doesn't make sense, I wonder if they've done a study into how many people would fall into the 50-80mg level the morning after ?
The more I think about it, the crazier it seems - even thinking about the current limit.
Surely some mind of sobriety test would make more sense, if you fail - then let's investigate exactly how much you've drank ??
I'm not advocating DD at all but policing it this way just doesn't make sense, I wonder if they've done a study into how many people would fall into the 50-80mg level the morning after ?
0a said:
I think it's a shame that I will no longer be able to pop to the pub for Sunday lunch and enjoy a single pint with my Dad.
I would like to see the evidence that 'drink drivers' between the current limit and the new limit are a particular issue compared to drink drivers who are significantly over the limit.
I would have thought most will be ok with one (around 4% strength) esp so if its a tops as well.I would like to see the evidence that 'drink drivers' between the current limit and the new limit are a particular issue compared to drink drivers who are significantly over the limit.
0a said:
I think it's a shame that I will no longer be able to pop to the pub for Sunday lunch and enjoy a single pint with my Dad.
I would like to see the evidence that 'drink drivers' between the current limit and the new limit are a particular issue compared to drink drivers who are significantly over the limit.
I would have thought most will be ok with one (around 4% strength) esp so if its a tops as well.I would like to see the evidence that 'drink drivers' between the current limit and the new limit are a particular issue compared to drink drivers who are significantly over the limit.
As many have said before, the real problem aren't the ones who have one with a meal then head home. It's the ones who have 4+ pints who then drive. They fully well know they're over the limit and still drive. They're the danger.
But no one thinking of the up sides? It would/could mean that there will be less cars on the roads during a Sunday hoon?
But no one thinking of the up sides? It would/could mean that there will be less cars on the roads during a Sunday hoon?
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