Discussion
u25kr said:
Talisman have reiterated that they will be going 3/3. Apparently they were asked about 3/4 3/5 but ruled that out.
I would much prefer the 3/4 3/5 rota, as would the majority of my colleagues, but that is not an option. We will get an additional 28 days pay though.
aye - if you're part of the crew who keep their job.....I would much prefer the 3/4 3/5 rota, as would the majority of my colleagues, but that is not an option. We will get an additional 28 days pay though.
dingg said:
Well contrary to what I'd been told -BP have went for the 3/4 - 3/5 rota with a week payback so back to a 161 days worked contract.
better than most thought IMO
BP haven't announced 3/4/3/5 yet. All they have stated is a 161 rota with 7 of those days at the companies discretion withanything over 154 paid or at offshore delay day. And until they put something official out stating 3/4-3/5 to me all they have said is it is a form of a 161 rota with 3 week trips offshore. better than most thought IMO
One thing with the 3/4/3/5 Means good chance of multiple 28 day trips etc. as I cant see them letting you do your extra weeks in middle of time off.
u25kr said:
Talisman have reiterated that they will be going 3/3. Apparently they were asked about 3/4 3/5 but ruled that out.
I would much prefer the 3/4 3/5 rota, as would the majority of my colleagues, but that is not an option. We will get an additional 28 days pay though.
I'm on the talisman contract, we had a 20% pay cut at the end of march so will be going back up to the wages we were on rather than getting any pay rise.I would much prefer the 3/4 3/5 rota, as would the majority of my colleagues, but that is not an option. We will get an additional 28 days pay though.
TheGovanLieMachine said:
According to a mate of mine who is on a BP unit has told me that all contractors are going 3/3, whilst 3/4, 3/5 will only apply to BP personnel.
Nothing official on the contractors side of things but from what I have been told BP has told contract co's must do 3 week trips and cost savings and impliment how they want. Most by sounds of things are going 4 shift option as opposed to BP's 5 shift with option(will most likely include a 4 week trip
)BP is my employers client and we're
still 2/3 , some lads who were 2/4 with payback are now 2/3 without any payback.(147 days)
BP did request the rota was looked at , it was, and no changes have been made other those mentioned above.
Still think more pressure will possibly be applied in the future , asset manager was out and was ubeat that we're making very good money even at circa $50bbl
eta BP staff on the project are going to the 3/4 3/5 nonsense from January.
still 2/3 , some lads who were 2/4 with payback are now 2/3 without any payback.(147 days)
BP did request the rota was looked at , it was, and no changes have been made other those mentioned above.
Still think more pressure will possibly be applied in the future , asset manager was out and was ubeat that we're making very good money even at circa $50bbl
eta BP staff on the project are going to the 3/4 3/5 nonsense from January.
Edited by dingg on Monday 12th October 15:17
caelite said:
Since there are a lot of you oil lot here I figure Id ask; Hows the offshore job market at the moment for new starts? Im looking to get into it next summer when I finish my engineering HNC. They still taking on anyone who turns up on time and sober? 
Probably at least a few years before things start getting better I would say. Price has been slowly coming up, but the shale oil can turn on and off much more quickly than offshore stuff, so oil price won't be able to go too high before production pushes it down again. Plus you have Iran to come, so supply will increase in the next year or two once their infrastructure gets sorted and companies understand the rules properly (so they don't get screwed by the US).There is some stuff out there, but a lot of competition so I'd be looking elsewhere at the same time and not pin your hopes on oil and gas for the next few years. But it will come back at some point, it's just the usual cycles (although perhaps the North Sea doesn't have too many more to go as a major oil province).
Robert Burns said:
What you doing for your HNC, have you done any of the courses for survival or that?
With job loses new starts is a very difficult time.
Engineering SystemsWith job loses new starts is a very difficult time.
NRS said:
Probably at least a few years before things start getting better I would say. Price has been slowly coming up, but the shale oil can turn on and off much more quickly than offshore stuff, so oil price won't be able to go too high before production pushes it down again. Plus you have Iran to come, so supply will increase in the next year or two once their infrastructure gets sorted and companies understand the rules properly (so they don't get screwed by the US).
There is some stuff out there, but a lot of competition so I'd be looking elsewhere at the same time and not pin your hopes on oil and gas for the next few years. But it will come back at some point, it's just the usual cycles (although perhaps the North Sea doesn't have too many more to go as a major oil province).
Aye was gonna start looking in too the survival stuff early next year and try do the courses over the summer then start looking for work. Out of curiosity how much are you looking at for all the courses all in? ~£1000?There is some stuff out there, but a lot of competition so I'd be looking elsewhere at the same time and not pin your hopes on oil and gas for the next few years. But it will come back at some point, it's just the usual cycles (although perhaps the North Sea doesn't have too many more to go as a major oil province).
Anywho thanks for the advice. When the time comes ill probably end up just shotgunning my CV to everyone. Dont really care where I end up going just wanna make some cash
.If I were you I wouldn't waste your money on the BOSIET/MIST training.
I was similar to you and had no offshore experience and did it about 2 years ago and spent about 10 months trying to get a start doing something HVAC related as I had a related HNC qualification and experience or just general trainee jobs and roustabout positions that I thought would get me into the industry. I probably applied for about 100 jobs and sent my CV round about 20 of the bigger oil companies over the period. I didn't even get one interview or phone call of interest. I also tried phoning to hassle the companies but they are used to this so have systems in place to stop you speaking to anyone with any clout as otherwise guys would be spending all day speaking to people wanting a start. That was before the crash, so go figure your chances now.
I ended up applying for the ECITB/OPITO oil and gas apprenticeship scheme and am currently training with Wood Group PSN in instrumentation which is a lot better job than I could of hoped for by starting from the bottom with my offshore survival. I suggest you try this. There isn't an age limit and it comprises of 21 months study at a college to gain HNC/SVQ2 in your trade with accommodation paid for and then 2 years offshore to complete an SVQ3 and then you'll be fully qualified and on a good salary. The intake starts in February again, its hard to get into as about 40 of us were taken on by 4/5 companies but around 3000 applied apparently, but put effort into this and you'll have a better chance than trying with no experience with your survival.
I was similar to you and had no offshore experience and did it about 2 years ago and spent about 10 months trying to get a start doing something HVAC related as I had a related HNC qualification and experience or just general trainee jobs and roustabout positions that I thought would get me into the industry. I probably applied for about 100 jobs and sent my CV round about 20 of the bigger oil companies over the period. I didn't even get one interview or phone call of interest. I also tried phoning to hassle the companies but they are used to this so have systems in place to stop you speaking to anyone with any clout as otherwise guys would be spending all day speaking to people wanting a start. That was before the crash, so go figure your chances now.
I ended up applying for the ECITB/OPITO oil and gas apprenticeship scheme and am currently training with Wood Group PSN in instrumentation which is a lot better job than I could of hoped for by starting from the bottom with my offshore survival. I suggest you try this. There isn't an age limit and it comprises of 21 months study at a college to gain HNC/SVQ2 in your trade with accommodation paid for and then 2 years offshore to complete an SVQ3 and then you'll be fully qualified and on a good salary. The intake starts in February again, its hard to get into as about 40 of us were taken on by 4/5 companies but around 3000 applied apparently, but put effort into this and you'll have a better chance than trying with no experience with your survival.
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