Nissan Dealers Closing?
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Seems I was right about Alexandra Parade Hyundai/Seat moving to Royston Rd Nissan, (even if only temporarily until Alexandra Parade has been refurbished into a bigger Hyundai showroom with new corporate identity)
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cas20 said:
Just heard Macklin advertising their two new Glasgow Nissan sites on Clyde 1 there. Possilpark and Parkhead.
Ooft, I hope they are planning to erect 40ft high electric fences at the "Posso" branch, I work in Possil and its a absolute bearpit full of alkies, junkies, Ned's, and scum who ruin everything in sight through smashing it, greffitiing it, or denting it.Were any specific addresses mentioned or opening dates? Cant find any info on their website or Google other than job ads advertising Macklin Nissan Glasgow North.
Funny I just noticed this thread now. Our local dealer (Flear & Thomson Nissan in Dunfermline) also sold Kias but sells nothing but Kias now and we have to take my mum's Qashqai to Edinburgh now for servicing and warranty work.
I was in that Kia dealership a couple of months ago though looking at a Pro_ceed GT and the dealer was telling me all about the Nissan dealers disappearing. And that even Arnold Clark were starting to drop the brand (sorry if this has been mentioned already I haven't read the whole thread). If this is the case, where on earth are you supposed to go? Are other dealerships like the likes of Noble's going to be dropping them too?
I was in that Kia dealership a couple of months ago though looking at a Pro_ceed GT and the dealer was telling me all about the Nissan dealers disappearing. And that even Arnold Clark were starting to drop the brand (sorry if this has been mentioned already I haven't read the whole thread). If this is the case, where on earth are you supposed to go? Are other dealerships like the likes of Noble's going to be dropping them too?
ibizacupradan said:
Funny I just noticed this thread now. Our local dealer (Flear & Thomson Nissan in Dunfermline) also sold Kias but sells nothing but Kias now and we have to take my mum's Qashqai to Edinburgh now for servicing and warranty work.
I was in that Kia dealership a couple of months ago though looking at a Pro_ceed GT and the dealer was telling me all about the Nissan dealers disappearing. And that even Arnold Clark were starting to drop the brand (sorry if this has been mentioned already I haven't read the whole thread). If this is the case, where on earth are you supposed to go? Are other dealerships like the likes of Noble's going to be dropping them too?
No, and Macklin, Western and John Clark have taken on territories dropped by Arnold Clark suggesting their is money to be made in Nissan I guess. Fife is a huge open point though.I was in that Kia dealership a couple of months ago though looking at a Pro_ceed GT and the dealer was telling me all about the Nissan dealers disappearing. And that even Arnold Clark were starting to drop the brand (sorry if this has been mentioned already I haven't read the whole thread). If this is the case, where on earth are you supposed to go? Are other dealerships like the likes of Noble's going to be dropping them too?
I really would like to know the reason Arnold and Nissan have parted (and also the reason why they gradually reduced their number of Nissan dealerships gradually over the years from 14/15 back in 06 to just 6 immediately prior to parting with Nissan) at one point as well as the showrooms in Linwood, South Street, Royston Road, Stirling, Perth and Dundee they ran other Nissan branches at Mosspark Boulevard, Hamilton Road, Cumbernauld, Warrington, Dumfries, Liverpool, Prestwick, and Dumbarton was a full dealership.
Also, I've been in Dumbarton in the past few days and Arnold's Dumbarton Renault dealership still has Nissan service after sales official signage up, whether this will continue long term or not I don't know but this is all that's now left of Nissan in AC. I also notice the Linwood showroom which changed to Citroen has the smallest Citroen sign I've ever seen and a big "Arnold Clark" sign in their own font, not the one used on Citroen dealer buildings normally.
Also, I've been in Dumbarton in the past few days and Arnold's Dumbarton Renault dealership still has Nissan service after sales official signage up, whether this will continue long term or not I don't know but this is all that's now left of Nissan in AC. I also notice the Linwood showroom which changed to Citroen has the smallest Citroen sign I've ever seen and a big "Arnold Clark" sign in their own font, not the one used on Citroen dealer buildings normally.
HendryG said:
I really would like to know the reason Arnold and Nissan have parted
Me too. According to the Western salesman in Edinburgh, Nissan and Arnie had a fallout. However according to SDM, Nissan wanted them to refurbish their showroom / move to larger premises and would 'fine' them if they didn't.I've been buying cars long enough to take everything a salesman says with a pinch of salt, but the latter excuse seems rather silly as wouldn't the dealership have to refurbish their showroom anyway if they change to another franchise?
Can't see how reducing the number of retailers can benefit Nissan, if I were to speculate I'd say that for whatever reason, Nissan UK wanted to part company from those franchises.
1965 said:
Me too. According to the Western salesman in Edinburgh, Nissan and Arnie had a fallout. However according to SDM, Nissan wanted them to refurbish their showroom / move to larger premises and would 'fine' them if they didn't.
I've been buying cars long enough to take everything a salesman says with a pinch of salt, but the latter excuse seems rather silly as wouldn't the dealership have to refurbish their showroom anyway if they change to another franchise?
Can't see how reducing the number of retailers can benefit Nissan, if I were to speculate I'd say that for whatever reason, Nissan UK wanted to part company from those franchises.
Aye the second excuse seems stupid because if it was true then surely Arnie would say "OK, fine us, it'll be cheaper than the cost of a showroom return or new premises".I've been buying cars long enough to take everything a salesman says with a pinch of salt, but the latter excuse seems rather silly as wouldn't the dealership have to refurbish their showroom anyway if they change to another franchise?
Can't see how reducing the number of retailers can benefit Nissan, if I were to speculate I'd say that for whatever reason, Nissan UK wanted to part company from those franchises.
I daresay if Arnie wanted to keep Nissan badly enough he would've as he has the clout and isn't one to shy away from refurbs or new premises, they are continually moving to new showrooms and doing other ones up, so they mustve thought whatever the clause was to keep the franchises it just wasn't worth it, so they binned it off, just want to know what that clause/condition was.
cas20 said:
Well the SDM Nissan/Hyundai/Mazda is being refurbished. The Nissan sign is still up so it looks like they are keeping the franchise.
No they ain't. It was SDM themselves who said they were losing their franchise and once closed my nearest dealership would be Western in Stirling. SDM told me Western were building a brand new showroom.1965 said:
No they ain't. It was SDM themselves who said they were losing their franchise and once closed my nearest dealership would be Western in Stirling. SDM told me Western were building a brand new showroom.
Western have opened a new showroom in an industrial unit in Stirling. Just spotted this on the SDM Facebook page- all very strange if indeed they are now keeping Nissan
Ewan Mccairn read on Pistonheads that you are no longer selling new Nissans... is this true?
Like · Reply · 1 April at 17:12
SDM Cars Hi Ewan, no this isn't true. If you're looking for one, be sure to speak to Lesley. She knows everything there is to know about Nissan! Thanks, Louise
As old as this thread is here's what happened and is happening with AC.
Nissan removed the franchise agreement from AC due to poor customer service and increasing complaints to the manufacturer.
This is not the only manufacturer that has done so for this reason.
JC took over the Nissan franchise in Dundee and are currently building a brand new JLR and BMW dealership in Dundee. Nissan will move from their shared Seat/Skoda/VWCM site to the currant BMW Mini site in Dundee.
I know from the inside that a number of manufacturers refuse to grant AC franchise's with Audi being the most high profile manufacturer refusing a franchise saying AC will never be given an Audi franchise.
AC are also no longer listed by ford as a van dealer.
There have also been some changes at the AC Kia/Ford/Fiat site in Dundee with a motorstore having been built and brands disappearing.
AC are using Motorstore's as a means to sell new cars in locations they can't get a franchise. You'll find brands being sold in them that they no longer have an agreement with.
AC are on thin ice with manufacturers and it's all over customer service. If they do get their act together they will have no brands to represent and no cars to sell.
Nissan removed the franchise agreement from AC due to poor customer service and increasing complaints to the manufacturer.
This is not the only manufacturer that has done so for this reason.
JC took over the Nissan franchise in Dundee and are currently building a brand new JLR and BMW dealership in Dundee. Nissan will move from their shared Seat/Skoda/VWCM site to the currant BMW Mini site in Dundee.
I know from the inside that a number of manufacturers refuse to grant AC franchise's with Audi being the most high profile manufacturer refusing a franchise saying AC will never be given an Audi franchise.
AC are also no longer listed by ford as a van dealer.
There have also been some changes at the AC Kia/Ford/Fiat site in Dundee with a motorstore having been built and brands disappearing.
AC are using Motorstore's as a means to sell new cars in locations they can't get a franchise. You'll find brands being sold in them that they no longer have an agreement with.
AC are on thin ice with manufacturers and it's all over customer service. If they do get their act together they will have no brands to represent and no cars to sell.
I'm hardly surprised about the customer service, i filled out feedback form regarding poor service in Edinburgh 2 years ago, no reply regards my complaint, having a year prior to that given good feedback at another branch which did receive an answer, no loss as i'll never darken their door again!
Was just saying to someone yesterday I would probably have no issue buying a car from AC as long as it was the best deal but I would NEVER, EVER take my car to their service dept.
I was well and truly bitten by them before and would never go back. In fact I know an AC sales manager who tells me he would never take his own car to them either.
I was well and truly bitten by them before and would never go back. In fact I know an AC sales manager who tells me he would never take his own car to them either.
Craigie said:
Was just saying to someone yesterday I would probably have no issue buying a car from AC as long as it was the best deal but I would NEVER, EVER take my car to their service dept.
Just for balance/a different view:I am very happy with the service department at the AC Bishopbriggs Toyota dealership & indeed, largely on the back of that I have just bought another car from them (it was a good deal though).
I am half-way between their Bishopbriggs & Linwood dealerships so have tried both & whilst I have no issues with Linwood I prefer Bishopbriggs - probably because it's smaller & therefore easier to get access to & build a relationship with the staff.
It possibly also comes down to how manufacturers imbue their expectations & standards at a dealership level.
I live within walking distance of AC's Ford/Mazda dealership in South St. & having using the Ford side around 5 years ago was distinctly unimpressed. Imo the Toyota dealers that I have used (AC & Eastern Western) are noticeably better than Ford & Vauxhall.
Theweescot said:
As old as this thread is here's what happened and is happening with AC.
Nissan removed the franchise agreement from AC due to poor customer service and increasing complaints to the manufacturer.
This is not the only manufacturer that has done so for this reason.
JC took over the Nissan franchise in Dundee and are currently building a brand new JLR and BMW dealership in Dundee. Nissan will move from their shared Seat/Skoda/VWCM site to the currant BMW Mini site in Dundee.
I know from the inside that a number of manufacturers refuse to grant AC franchise's with Audi being the most high profile manufacturer refusing a franchise saying AC will never be given an Audi franchise.
AC are also no longer listed by ford as a van dealer.
There have also been some changes at the AC Kia/Ford/Fiat site in Dundee with a motorstore having been built and brands disappearing.
AC are using Motorstore's as a means to sell new cars in locations they can't get a franchise. You'll find brands being sold in them that they no longer have an agreement with.
AC are on thin ice with manufacturers and it's all over customer service. If they do get their act together they will have no brands to represent and no cars to sell.
I got told John Clark was moving Nissan to the BMW site when it relocated but it’s moved into the former TOM Motors/Alistair Fleming Citroen site now. Nissan removed the franchise agreement from AC due to poor customer service and increasing complaints to the manufacturer.
This is not the only manufacturer that has done so for this reason.
JC took over the Nissan franchise in Dundee and are currently building a brand new JLR and BMW dealership in Dundee. Nissan will move from their shared Seat/Skoda/VWCM site to the currant BMW Mini site in Dundee.
I know from the inside that a number of manufacturers refuse to grant AC franchise's with Audi being the most high profile manufacturer refusing a franchise saying AC will never be given an Audi franchise.
AC are also no longer listed by ford as a van dealer.
There have also been some changes at the AC Kia/Ford/Fiat site in Dundee with a motorstore having been built and brands disappearing.
AC are using Motorstore's as a means to sell new cars in locations they can't get a franchise. You'll find brands being sold in them that they no longer have an agreement with.
AC are on thin ice with manufacturers and it's all over customer service. If they do get their act together they will have no brands to represent and no cars to sell.
The rumour years ago was that Skoda wouldn’t give Arnold a franchise, when Skodas took off in the taxi trade they bought several dealerships which had a Skoda franchise but when they acquired said dealership the Skoda brand disappeared (examples being Ingram VW and Skoda Paisley and Barnetts Peugeot, Mazda and Skoda) but now they’ve managed to get the franchise and also have VW and Seat so I’d doubt Audi refuse them a franchise because they run all the other VAG group brands including the parent VW.
They still do Ford vans too, not in as many branches as before but that’s down to Ford appointing certain dealers as Transit Specialists whereas before pretty much any Ford dealer did vans depending on if the dealership was big enough to handle them, and which is why Linwood and Rutherglen no longer handle van sales but are Transit service dealers, while Kilmarnock, Aberdeen and Carlisle AC still sell Ford vans, Ford just reduced the number of van sales dealers and the ones which do are the only place in any given area to do them, eg Kilmarnock AC is only van sales dealer in Ayrshire, Evans Halshaw Provan Road is the only one in Glasgow now etc
Dundee AC has built a Motorstore where the body shop was, Ford is going into old Nissan showroom and Jeep/Chrysler has been dropped as Fiat have decided fewer Jeep dealers covering more regions and pairing with an Alfa franchise rather than Fiat as before.
Arnold has acquired Mitsubishi in Stirling from Phoenix which was reportedly a franchise they were refused previously as well.
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