To live in Glasgow or Edinburgh?
Discussion
MitchyRS said:
Does Glasgow not have one of the highest murder rates and one of the lowest life expectancy rates in Europe? It's also a city blighted by poverty and sectarianism................
Only in the schemes. Not sure the OP is planning on moving to any of them. They are easily avoided.Terzo123 said:
MitchyRS said:
Does Glasgow not have one of the highest murder rates and one of the lowest life expectancy rates in Europe? It's also a city blighted by poverty and sectarianism................
Only in the schemes. Not sure the OP is planning on moving to any of them. They are easily avoided.
SpunkyGlory said:
I'm 25, single and don't know a single person in either city at the moment so would therefore like a city that offers me the opportunity to meet similar people to myself, as there won't really be the option through work. I love music (dance/house music/raves etc), mountain biking, sports (would probably try and start playing rugby again). I've spent the last 3 years living in Essex but spend most of my time in London and love the buzz of the city.
Without a doubt, Glasgow. Edinburgh doesn't come close for your sort of night lifestyle.South side is the music hub, West end is filled with students who have "that" accent. Nobody knows where it comes from, people don't acquire it till they move there but yet...
https://youtu.be/4A7HjUmRJ5U
The cheesy Glasgow is definitely to be avoided and you'll not come across such bangers/get stabbed/want to move instantly.
It does rain a lot but if you're going out to do sports you'll be off elsewhere anyways.
Glasgow without a doubt.
I would recommend avoiding the West End unless you like Studenty Arty Farty Save the Planet We're so special we've decided to lodge our heads up our own anus and talk in some accent that we think sounds posh types.
City Centre is where the real people are, used to go out in it every week and I didn't even get murdered to death once.
I would recommend avoiding the West End unless you like Studenty Arty Farty Save the Planet We're so special we've decided to lodge our heads up our own anus and talk in some accent that we think sounds posh types.
City Centre is where the real people are, used to go out in it every week and I didn't even get murdered to death once.
Chunkymonkey71 said:
I live in Govan; widely regarded as one of the most deprived areas of western Europe.
I don't get any trouble over here.
Then again, I'm hard as f
k.
Everybody knows you run the South side.I don't get any trouble over here.
Then again, I'm hard as f
k.They see you in your Ignis and there is no question of your standing in the local underworld hierarchy.
BrownBottle said:
Chunkymonkey71 said:
I live in Govan; widely regarded as one of the most deprived areas of western Europe.
I don't get any trouble over here.
Then again, I'm hard as fk.
Everybody knows you run the South side.I don't get any trouble over here.
Then again, I'm hard as f
k.They see you in your Ignis and there is no question of your standing in the local underworld hierarchy.
Hoonmeister said:
Speaking of Jovan de Soleil you have the new Burj al Linthouse the new 1129 room hotel with river or city views from every room.
I live right across from it! I can't park on Govan Road anymore because of the absolute travesty of a bus link.Edited by Hoonmeister on Thursday 21st May 21:43
There is talk of £50 a year parking permits to park on the streets, and no guarantee of having a space when you get a permit.
MitchyRS said:
Does Glasgow not have one of the highest murder rates and one of the lowest life expectancy rates in Europe? It's also a city blighted by poverty and sectarianism. I'd think twice about moving to Glasgow.
Edinburgh is a little like London, expensive and full of tourists. Night life, Glasgow wins, but Edinburgh isn't a bad night out, a classier crowd if you like so you're less likely to get stabbed on a night out.
There's also Dundee and Aberdeen to consider.
Dundee is the most central of the 4 major cities, an hour drive to Edinburgh/Glasgow and Aberdeen (North to Aberdeen, South to Edinburgh and West to Glasgow) so it has the best location geographically for travelling around Scotland. It's undergoing a massive regeneration with billions being pumped into new developments at the waterfront, it's the smallest of the 4 cities and probably doesn't have the nightlife Glasgow does but it has one of the best Universities in the UK (Leader in Medical Science) so is always full of students propping up the nightlife.
Then there's Aberdeen,
A rich area of Scotland with a lot of wealth, Aberdeenshire is beautiful and a gateway to going further north (Inverness) It's a bit out the way from Glasgow though and the locals can be a tad strange. Downsides would be traffic (Airport and oil industry within the same few square miles, traffic is horrendous if you're on the north side, much worse than Edinburgh)It's an expensive city too.
If it were me, I would pick Edinburgh over Glasgow if that's your two choices. I'd also pick Dundee and Aberdeen over Glasgow too, the neds, sectarian nonsense and some of the poverty and violence you will see in Glasgow will put you off for life. Everyone knows someone that's either been murdered, stabbed, slashed or has died of a drug overdose, that's just Glasgow.
You did ask the question as opposed to state a supposed fact but I would argue that whilst some parts of Glasgow are indeed pretty shocking in terms of the poverty some people are living in, a lot of improvements have been made over the years. We have also come a long way with regard to sectarianism as well although more still needs to be done.Edinburgh is a little like London, expensive and full of tourists. Night life, Glasgow wins, but Edinburgh isn't a bad night out, a classier crowd if you like so you're less likely to get stabbed on a night out.
There's also Dundee and Aberdeen to consider.
Dundee is the most central of the 4 major cities, an hour drive to Edinburgh/Glasgow and Aberdeen (North to Aberdeen, South to Edinburgh and West to Glasgow) so it has the best location geographically for travelling around Scotland. It's undergoing a massive regeneration with billions being pumped into new developments at the waterfront, it's the smallest of the 4 cities and probably doesn't have the nightlife Glasgow does but it has one of the best Universities in the UK (Leader in Medical Science) so is always full of students propping up the nightlife.
Then there's Aberdeen,
A rich area of Scotland with a lot of wealth, Aberdeenshire is beautiful and a gateway to going further north (Inverness) It's a bit out the way from Glasgow though and the locals can be a tad strange. Downsides would be traffic (Airport and oil industry within the same few square miles, traffic is horrendous if you're on the north side, much worse than Edinburgh)It's an expensive city too.
If it were me, I would pick Edinburgh over Glasgow if that's your two choices. I'd also pick Dundee and Aberdeen over Glasgow too, the neds, sectarian nonsense and some of the poverty and violence you will see in Glasgow will put you off for life. Everyone knows someone that's either been murdered, stabbed, slashed or has died of a drug overdose, that's just Glasgow.
As for Dundee, it was highlighted recently as having the most drugs-related deaths in Scotland. My wife and I visited last year and it wasn't great although the hotel was nice.
Chunkymonkey71 said:
Hoonmeister said:
Speaking of Jovan de Soleil you have the new Burj al Linthouse the new 1129 room hotel with river or city views from every room.
I live right across from it! I can't park on Govan Road anymore because of the absolute travesty of a bus link.Edited by Hoonmeister on Thursday 21st May 21:43
There is talk of £50 a year parking permits to park on the streets, and no guarantee of having a space when you get a permit.
There's better weather in Edinburgh. Far less rain, if that matters.
I think you should visit both cities for an extended period before you decide. Both places have "interesting" locals (although nobody living in Edinburgh is actually from there). There's a lot of snobbery in Edinburgh, while some Glaswegians can be a bit bi-polar.
Also, as this thread demonstrates, there is a lot of rivalry between the two cities.
I think you should visit both cities for an extended period before you decide. Both places have "interesting" locals (although nobody living in Edinburgh is actually from there). There's a lot of snobbery in Edinburgh, while some Glaswegians can be a bit bi-polar.
Also, as this thread demonstrates, there is a lot of rivalry between the two cities.
There is some fantastical bks on this thread. Having been born, educated, partied and existed in and around Glasgow for nearly 40 years I can assure the OP that I don't know anyone who has been murdered or stabbed, have never had any significant trouble when pubbing/clubbing and have never ever had any sectarian issues (as I don't have anything to do with football).
If you've every been near London, Birmingham or Liverpool you will have seen the depths of poverty, addiction and crime that no city in Scotland comes remotely close to replicating. Glasgow has an issue with alcohol, it affects statistics on health and crime but only really impacts those afflicted. If you removed them from the stats then it is a fine place to live, and it is a mostly unseen and unheard of issue for the vast majority of the inhabitants. Edinburgh has exactly the same issue but the weapon of choice is harder drugs, but leads to the same issues.
Of everything on this thread I would largely agree with these conclusions:
Glasgow is better if you are into cars.
Edinburgh has better weather.
Glasgow will provide a higher standard of living for the same cost.
Edinburgh has a more aesthetically pleasing centre.
You can get laid easier in Glasgow.
ks on this thread. Having been born, educated, partied and existed in and around Glasgow for nearly 40 years I can assure the OP that I don't know anyone who has been murdered or stabbed, have never had any significant trouble when pubbing/clubbing and have never ever had any sectarian issues (as I don't have anything to do with football).If you've every been near London, Birmingham or Liverpool you will have seen the depths of poverty, addiction and crime that no city in Scotland comes remotely close to replicating. Glasgow has an issue with alcohol, it affects statistics on health and crime but only really impacts those afflicted. If you removed them from the stats then it is a fine place to live, and it is a mostly unseen and unheard of issue for the vast majority of the inhabitants. Edinburgh has exactly the same issue but the weapon of choice is harder drugs, but leads to the same issues.
Of everything on this thread I would largely agree with these conclusions:
Glasgow is better if you are into cars.
Edinburgh has better weather.
Glasgow will provide a higher standard of living for the same cost.
Edinburgh has a more aesthetically pleasing centre.
You can get laid easier in Glasgow.
GreigM said:
There is some fantastical bks on this thread. Having been born, educated, partied and existed in and around Glasgow for nearly 40 years I can assure the OP that I don't know anyone who has been murdered or stabbed, have never had any significant trouble when pubbing/clubbing and have never ever had any sectarian issues (as I don't have anything to do with football).
If you've every been near London, Birmingham or Liverpool you will have seen the depths of poverty, addiction and crime that no city in Scotland comes remotely close to replicating. Glasgow has an issue with alcohol, it affects statistics on health and crime but only really impacts those afflicted. If you removed them from the stats then it is a fine place to live, and it is a mostly unseen and unheard of issue for the vast majority of the inhabitants. Edinburgh has exactly the same issue but the weapon of choice is harder drugs, but leads to the same issues.
Of everything on this thread I would largely agree with these conclusions:
Glasgow is better if you are into cars.
Edinburgh has better weather.
Glasgow will provide a higher standard of living for the same cost.
Edinburgh has a more aesthetically pleasing centre.
You can getlaida ride easier in Glasgow.
May as well get with the ligoks on this thread. Having been born, educated, partied and existed in and around Glasgow for nearly 40 years I can assure the OP that I don't know anyone who has been murdered or stabbed, have never had any significant trouble when pubbing/clubbing and have never ever had any sectarian issues (as I don't have anything to do with football).If you've every been near London, Birmingham or Liverpool you will have seen the depths of poverty, addiction and crime that no city in Scotland comes remotely close to replicating. Glasgow has an issue with alcohol, it affects statistics on health and crime but only really impacts those afflicted. If you removed them from the stats then it is a fine place to live, and it is a mostly unseen and unheard of issue for the vast majority of the inhabitants. Edinburgh has exactly the same issue but the weapon of choice is harder drugs, but leads to the same issues.
Of everything on this thread I would largely agree with these conclusions:
Glasgow is better if you are into cars.
Edinburgh has better weather.
Glasgow will provide a higher standard of living for the same cost.
Edinburgh has a more aesthetically pleasing centre.
You can get
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
Glasgow has been ranked as the UK's most violent area in a new report. (2013)
In 2012 there were 2.7 homicides per 100,000 people in Glasgow. This compared to a 1.67 per 100,000 in London and a rate of 1.0 across the UK as a whole.
However, in 2007 Glasgow's homicide rate was much higher at about 4.5
As for life expectancy, this report is barely a year old...
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/apr/...
There was also quite a comical article about the life expectancy in the Calton area of Glasgow at 53.9yrs old but that must be bollo*ks surely?
In its defence, Glasgow is improving and on the up, things are clearly getting better, the homicide rate has halved since 2007. Its a vibrant exciting city and the vast majority of people are friendly and welcoming. The press can paint a bleak picture with a set of statistics but if you stay in the right areas and dont go off the beaten track then Glasgow is a nice place to be.
Personally, i still prefer Edinburgh though but if you're after the nightlife and picking up more girls, it has to be Glasgow
Glasgow has been ranked as the UK's most violent area in a new report. (2013)
In 2012 there were 2.7 homicides per 100,000 people in Glasgow. This compared to a 1.67 per 100,000 in London and a rate of 1.0 across the UK as a whole.
However, in 2007 Glasgow's homicide rate was much higher at about 4.5
As for life expectancy, this report is barely a year old...
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/apr/...
There was also quite a comical article about the life expectancy in the Calton area of Glasgow at 53.9yrs old but that must be bollo*ks surely?
In its defence, Glasgow is improving and on the up, things are clearly getting better, the homicide rate has halved since 2007. Its a vibrant exciting city and the vast majority of people are friendly and welcoming. The press can paint a bleak picture with a set of statistics but if you stay in the right areas and dont go off the beaten track then Glasgow is a nice place to be.
Personally, i still prefer Edinburgh though but if you're after the nightlife and picking up more girls, it has to be Glasgow
Edited by MitchyRS on Friday 22 May 14:08
MitchyRS said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
Glasgow has been ranked as the UK's most violent area in a new report. (2013)
In 2012 there were 2.7 homicides per 100,000 people in Glasgow. This compared to a 1.67 per 100,000 in London and a rate of 1.0 across the UK as a whole.
However, in 2007 Glasgow's homicide rate was much higher at about 4.5
As i said in my reply to one of your posts at the top of this page. Generally these problems are contained to the schemes. I don't believe the OP is planning to move to one of them.Glasgow has been ranked as the UK's most violent area in a new report. (2013)
In 2012 there were 2.7 homicides per 100,000 people in Glasgow. This compared to a 1.67 per 100,000 in London and a rate of 1.0 across the UK as a whole.
However, in 2007 Glasgow's homicide rate was much higher at about 4.5
Edited by MitchyRS on Friday 22 May 13:58
I take it you don't like Glasgow.
Edited to add, you must have changed your post whilst i was posting mine.
Edited by Terzo123 on Friday 22 May 14:14
Haha, not at all, I'm there every couple of weeks for the football and often venture into the centre for a night out. Not had an ounce of bother in Glasgow personally. Was just merely pointing out what its 'famous' for in the media. Stay in the right places and its fine, venture out into no mans land though, take a stab proof vest 
Yes, edited a little, the 53.9 Calton statistic must be made up haha.
Yes, edited a little, the 53.9 Calton statistic must be made up haha.
MitchyRS said:
Yes, edited a little, the 53.9 Calton statistic must be made up haha.
Calton along with Shettleston and a few other well known schemes, i can quite believe it. It really is a different way of life. The "Avoid getting chibbed route" option on your satnav, should ensure this isn't a problem.
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