M8 Police Escort

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f1dget

359 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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I've seen this a few times recently both on TV and up close and personal and can't help wondering how a civilian vehicle can run about with blue lights like the sprinter style g4s van has,

bigblock

772 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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f1dget said:
I've seen this a few times recently both on TV and up close and personal and can't help wondering how a civilian vehicle can run about with blue lights like the sprinter style g4s van has,
I think the exemption in the legislation regarding blue lights says...

'any police vehicle OR vehicle being used for police purposes'

Also the legislation refers to the vehicle and not the person driving it so you do not actually have to be a trained police driver to drive a vehicle with flashing blue lights.

I suppose that's how Prince Andrew manages to get away with personally driving a Range Rover with the blue lights on. If he is being escorted by his protection officer then technically the vehicle is being used for police purposes (maybe!).

Edited by bigblock on Tuesday 23 June 20:01

Craigie

1,225 posts

179 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Well I saw this convoy for the first time this morning on the A8 at Shawhead - very impressive!

So first they have a police outrider who is probably about 30 seconds ahead of the rest, not sure what his role is maybe just checking there were no major obstructions or whatever ahead.

Then another outrider and then the convoy itself - was hugely impressed with how close the vehicles were travelling - must have been doing about 50mph or thereabouts and there could have been no more than a metre between each vehicle! Assume this is to prevent anyone getting in to the convoy but must be pretty nerveracking driving effectively blind at that speed just hoping that the guy in front doesn't need to brake!

yellowbentines

5,315 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Craigie said:
Well I saw this convoy for the first time this morning on the A8 at Shawhead - very impressive!
It is isn't it!

I used to work on High St in Glasgow and often you'd see them coming down it to the High Court, it's really impressive when you see them get through several junctions/sets of traffic lights in quick succession without the central convoy slowing at all. The first outrider holds up traffic at the lights, the second rides on to the next set of lights and does the same, the first then picks up once the convoy is past and blasts past onto the next set of lights and so on.

oobster

7,095 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I also spotted it just after the Shotts junction this morning.

I assume it's for the case already mentioned (I have no idea who Johnny Adair is) but is there a significant risk of someone trying to 'get to' the 4 guys whilst in convoy?

If so, why aren't the 4 accused held at a prison closer to the court (Bar L) or flown in & out of Shotts?

I guess the cops know what they are doing, just fascinates me seeing the convoy then imagining (probably completely wrongly) the decisions that went on in order for the convoy to be deemed necessary.

Craigie

1,225 posts

179 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I believe due to the nature of the case then it has been deemed a high risk of interference.

I don't know if there is something in the fact that they are in 3 different locations, perhaps that is deliberate for keeping them apart.

However it is a reflection of our prison system that they can't keep 3 together in Barlinnie and ensure they don't come into contact!

Humper

946 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Big convoy passed me this afternoon heading down the M77, bikes, cars, big black Bentley followed by a Range Rover, hope that wasn't going to Bowhouse...

Lugy

830 posts

183 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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The OH had the same/similar convoy behind her last night as she came through the road works after M8/J2 heading into Hermiston. It would have been about 9pm and she said there were no flashing lights anywhere, are they maybe based in Edinburgh?

Craigie

1,225 posts

179 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Humper said:
Big convoy passed me this afternoon heading down the M77, bikes, cars, big black Bentley followed by a Range Rover, hope that wasn't going to Bowhouse...
Would that not be Charles & Camilla??

Humper

946 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Craigie said:
Humper said:
Big convoy passed me this afternoon heading down the M77, bikes, cars, big black Bentley followed by a Range Rover, hope that wasn't going to Bowhouse...
Would that not be Charles & Camilla??
Hope it was going to Bowhouse then.......

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I didn't notice any names that moaned anything to me re. the mad dog trial....good to know though. I've watched a lot of these convoy videos online so it was good to see it in Glasgow....4 armed response shoguns was pretty impressive.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Just an afterthought...do you think the security is due to the possibility of some group attempting to free the prisoners, attack them or a mixture of both?

Craigie

1,225 posts

179 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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That is exactly the reason.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Craigie said:
That is exactly the reason.
Which one? Lol

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Thanks for that - interesting! I've always fancied going to watch a case but even with the court listings, how would you know which one to go and observe? What do you say when you enter the building? "I'm here to view a case,"? I'd end up the only person in the public viewing gallery for a domestic or something lol

pewe

648 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Saw this yesterday morning around Jct 4 M80 -impressive the number of vehicles in the convoy - said to the missus it must be a terrorist to warrant that amount of security.
Cheers, Pewe

woodysnr

1,024 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I bet a lot of you would like those working hours wink

A.J.M

7,910 posts

186 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Taken from the bridge at Chapelhall last week.

The main convoy is pictured, there were 2 bikers running further ahead in lane 2 clearing a path.

frag68

273 posts

144 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I see ths convoy passing the office almost everyday in Westerhill Rd Bishopbriggs. I would assume the person in the G4S vehicle is resident at Low Moss Prison. Quite impressive convoy most days.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Awt1008 said:
Viewing a trial is rather easy all trials are open to the public unless there os a sign on the door saying cclosed court this happens in rape and sexual assult etc cases when the victim is goving evidence as this is often very hard and upsetting for them. When entering the court you walk through the main entrance you are greeted with the very friendly security staff you walk through a metal detector if you bleep you are given the once over with a metal detector wand. Once you clear security either walk to court 3 if you want to view the terrorism trial and if you are looking for something else or wanting to see if you fancy any other trials ask reception to see the court list this will tell younwhats on and in what court. Phones should be switched off in court and eating is prohibited the court takes a coffe break around half 11 and a luch break from 1-2 court finishes at around 4 most days and around half 3 on a friday.
Thanks you sir.