Ingliston revival - 12 & 13 sept
Discussion
Just back home after going today.
Can't say I found it that much of an advert for the experience drives.
Too few cars on track at a time, so there was no real feel of it being racing or really even an old race track. I expected more relevant 'race' cars to be there, so from that point it was a bit of a let down.
A good effort from Pentland, Murray's and Leven Motor Co, and good to see McLaren there.
A good effort from some of the car clubs, big turn-out from BMW, Jaguar and MG clubs.
Bouncy castles and other stuff for kids was free, so that was a very good initiative. And the pizza's were excellent!
I suppose the issue is, if it is to be on again, is to decide exactly what it is. Historic racing venue/car show/owners clubs show/racing or sprint?
The venue is excellent for space and access and there is a lot of scope for expansion and improvement.
As a first effort it was reasonable, but a bit more advertising would certainly have helped. I only knew about from seeing it mentioned on here, and then a few days ago I received an email 'invite' from one of the dealers. But the invite was actually just an advert saying they were there for the days, so come and say hello if you are going anyway.
I'd go back again next year if they do it again, and the pizza guys are back!
Can't say I found it that much of an advert for the experience drives.
Too few cars on track at a time, so there was no real feel of it being racing or really even an old race track. I expected more relevant 'race' cars to be there, so from that point it was a bit of a let down.
A good effort from Pentland, Murray's and Leven Motor Co, and good to see McLaren there.
A good effort from some of the car clubs, big turn-out from BMW, Jaguar and MG clubs.
Bouncy castles and other stuff for kids was free, so that was a very good initiative. And the pizza's were excellent!
I suppose the issue is, if it is to be on again, is to decide exactly what it is. Historic racing venue/car show/owners clubs show/racing or sprint?
The venue is excellent for space and access and there is a lot of scope for expansion and improvement.
As a first effort it was reasonable, but a bit more advertising would certainly have helped. I only knew about from seeing it mentioned on here, and then a few days ago I received an email 'invite' from one of the dealers. But the invite was actually just an advert saying they were there for the days, so come and say hello if you are going anyway.
I'd go back again next year if they do it again, and the pizza guys are back!
Agree with a lot than has been posted all good points' and some great ideas to expand it .
I attended with the TIPEC club we had a nice display of 18 cars it was a very long day with not a lot to keep one entertained it did have the Russ Swift Mini Stunt demos which was fine.
The car franchises that attended where up to a good standard showing marques like AM RR JAG .LOTUS. MCLAREN display was let down by there £50 Millets tent for hospitality
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I like many others that attended where looking for a bit of nostalgia going back to the 60's when Ingliston was the place for racing. Not just watch Supercar Scotland take passengers round the track 3 times for £80 a pop there is a place for it but not all day long .
The event has room to grow with some of the ideas posted on here but like any event it needs commitment from those that suggest things to make it happen. When one looks at the Scottish Car Show and how successful it is and the area it takes up The Revival has the legs to grow into a premier Scottish event .
Value for money entrance fee for public and not food concessions like £5 a burger .
The one ingredient it does need and no one can guarantee is the weather . But we Scots are made to withstand it.
I attended with the TIPEC club we had a nice display of 18 cars it was a very long day with not a lot to keep one entertained it did have the Russ Swift Mini Stunt demos which was fine.
The car franchises that attended where up to a good standard showing marques like AM RR JAG .LOTUS. MCLAREN display was let down by there £50 Millets tent for hospitality
.I like many others that attended where looking for a bit of nostalgia going back to the 60's when Ingliston was the place for racing. Not just watch Supercar Scotland take passengers round the track 3 times for £80 a pop there is a place for it but not all day long .
The event has room to grow with some of the ideas posted on here but like any event it needs commitment from those that suggest things to make it happen. When one looks at the Scottish Car Show and how successful it is and the area it takes up The Revival has the legs to grow into a premier Scottish event .
Value for money entrance fee for public and not food concessions like £5 a burger .
The one ingredient it does need and no one can guarantee is the weather . But we Scots are made to withstand it.
Edited by woodysnr on Monday 14th September 11:22
I went along with the kids. It was OK, but very gentle. The commentators just chintered on about some milk float event, rather than talking about the cars on track. The programme seemed to be running about half an hour late at 1:45 on the Sunday afternoon.
I think the organisers probably need to reach out to more car clubs. The BMW folk seemed pretty well organised, with every M3 edition in chronological order. And there were a decent turnout of Porsches. I'm guessing that most of the Scottish VXR8s were there, which was nice to see. The Jaguar Enthusiasts Club didn't have much of a turnout - only around a dozen cars. That was a bit of a shame given that Jaguar Forums had over 60 at a meetup a couple of months ago.
The dealerships did very well taking along nice cars as discussed above. My highlight was watching the absolute ragging that the Jaguar XE-S course car was getting.
A good inaugural event. Hopefully there will be more in future that get some better support.
I think the organisers probably need to reach out to more car clubs. The BMW folk seemed pretty well organised, with every M3 edition in chronological order. And there were a decent turnout of Porsches. I'm guessing that most of the Scottish VXR8s were there, which was nice to see. The Jaguar Enthusiasts Club didn't have much of a turnout - only around a dozen cars. That was a bit of a shame given that Jaguar Forums had over 60 at a meetup a couple of months ago.
The dealerships did very well taking along nice cars as discussed above. My highlight was watching the absolute ragging that the Jaguar XE-S course car was getting.
A good inaugural event. Hopefully there will be more in future that get some better support.
Well, I enjoyed it! OK, so it was nothing like the Goodwood Revival but then it was never intended to be and never will be - safety regulations preclude there ever again being full-blown circuit racing here.
For a first attempt, I think the organisers did a pretty good job and have a solid base to build on for the future. Sure there were glitches, there were things that could have been done better, things that could have been included but weren't, etc etc, but hey, they started with a blank sheet of paper and had to try and fill it and I for one appreciate just how hard that can be. Yes, the repeated Supercar Experience segments got a bit predictable but let's not forget that they were a major sponsor of the whole event and without them there might not have been enough in the cashbox to have anything at all.
I was out on track (blue Lotus Evora for those who saw it) and I didn't find it gentle, tame, pootling around, or however else it might be described. The lap times (downloaded from my in-car camera) were around 68 seconds for the dry Sunday session (obviously slower on the wet Saturday), which equates to an average of about 55mph. Under the bridge at the top of The Esses into Caravan, coming past the viewing grandstand into Lefthander and then from the west bridge down through Clock into the Arena I was pulling 7000rpm in second which equates to 77mph (a couple of times I hit the rev-limiter which is 80) and at the braking point for the Hairpin I was again at 7000rpm but this time in third (105mph or 109 on the one occasion I hit the limiter), these latter figures confirmed by my in-built Sat-Nav which starts screaming and flashing when you hit 3 figures. The only slow bit was through the new section at Arena where the drifting BMW had comprehensively torn up the surface so much you had to slow right down and even then cringe at all the shrapnel battering the bodywork. I wouldn't have wanted to push any harder - it's my pride and joy after all, as well as my daily driver and the only way I was getting home at the end of the event.
The organisers are to be congratulated for what they achieved. They've been on a steep learning curve and I'm sure if they manage to repeat it next year the 'improvements' will be there for all to see. Little acorns and all that.
..........and yes, shock, horror. Before the PH Number Plate Police descend on me, I admit to having a 'crappy' mis-spaced plate and now fully expect to be hunted down and strung up from the nearest lamp-post by my dangly bits for committing this most heinous of crimes.
For a first attempt, I think the organisers did a pretty good job and have a solid base to build on for the future. Sure there were glitches, there were things that could have been done better, things that could have been included but weren't, etc etc, but hey, they started with a blank sheet of paper and had to try and fill it and I for one appreciate just how hard that can be. Yes, the repeated Supercar Experience segments got a bit predictable but let's not forget that they were a major sponsor of the whole event and without them there might not have been enough in the cashbox to have anything at all.
I was out on track (blue Lotus Evora for those who saw it) and I didn't find it gentle, tame, pootling around, or however else it might be described. The lap times (downloaded from my in-car camera) were around 68 seconds for the dry Sunday session (obviously slower on the wet Saturday), which equates to an average of about 55mph. Under the bridge at the top of The Esses into Caravan, coming past the viewing grandstand into Lefthander and then from the west bridge down through Clock into the Arena I was pulling 7000rpm in second which equates to 77mph (a couple of times I hit the rev-limiter which is 80) and at the braking point for the Hairpin I was again at 7000rpm but this time in third (105mph or 109 on the one occasion I hit the limiter), these latter figures confirmed by my in-built Sat-Nav which starts screaming and flashing when you hit 3 figures. The only slow bit was through the new section at Arena where the drifting BMW had comprehensively torn up the surface so much you had to slow right down and even then cringe at all the shrapnel battering the bodywork. I wouldn't have wanted to push any harder - it's my pride and joy after all, as well as my daily driver and the only way I was getting home at the end of the event.
The organisers are to be congratulated for what they achieved. They've been on a steep learning curve and I'm sure if they manage to repeat it next year the 'improvements' will be there for all to see. Little acorns and all that.
..........and yes, shock, horror. Before the PH Number Plate Police descend on me, I admit to having a 'crappy' mis-spaced plate and now fully expect to be hunted down and strung up from the nearest lamp-post by my dangly bits for committing this most heinous of crimes.
Driver101 said:
Wasn't Charlie Shaw banned for giving it some beans?
He has posted a bit on Facebook.
It wasn't for 'giving it the beans' - they were quite happy with you doing that so long as you didn't get stupid i.e. on the ragged edge and threatening to become a smash looking for somewhere to happen. However, it was made quite clear at the drivers' briefing that there was to be strictly no overtaking unless the car in front had broken down/pulled off the circuit. Even although he was 'invited' to pass by the Porsche 918 driver, that's where Charlie committed a 'hanging offence' as they were both still travelling 'at a pace' as I understand it and so incurred the wrath of the organisers. He has posted a bit on Facebook.
Alfa2Evora said:
Driver101 said:
Wasn't Charlie Shaw banned for giving it some beans?
He has posted a bit on Facebook.
It wasn't for 'giving it the beans' - they were quite happy with you doing that so long as you didn't get stupid i.e. on the ragged edge and threatening to become a smash looking for somewhere to happen. However, it was made quite clear at the drivers' briefing that there was to be strictly no overtaking unless the car in front had broken down/pulled off the circuit. Even although he was 'invited' to pass by the Porsche 918 driver, that's where Charlie committed a 'hanging offence' as they were both still travelling 'at a pace' as I understand it and so incurred the wrath of the organisers. He has posted a bit on Facebook.
Understand and agree with most of the comments but also want give a thumbs up overall to the event and the organisers as it can't have been easy. We enjoyed the weekend but could have done with getting away a bit earlier than the 6pm finish on Sunday but that's just a personal thing. There's room for improvement given constructive criticism and some suggestions and I think the event has potential?
All the suggestions put forward make it sound more like the Scottish Car Show.
I'm sure the Scottish Car Show will now look in reverse about the usage of the track, then come up with the same positives to extract.
We will end up with two similar shows at the same place.
I'm not sure we have enough variety and quality to cover that without it becoming a bit repetitive
I'm sure the Scottish Car Show will now look in reverse about the usage of the track, then come up with the same positives to extract.
We will end up with two similar shows at the same place.
I'm not sure we have enough variety and quality to cover that without it becoming a bit repetitive
@peteA thanks for you and your teams hospitality over the weekend and sorry for squatting on your pitch, hope you were not delayed too much on the way home. Managed to get home by 10.30pm after a uni drop and back up the next day to pick up 2 remaining cars.
Good foundation for a weekend in principle, just need to put some flesh on the bones and build on it..
More incentive to get the Cerbera up and running..
Good foundation for a weekend in principle, just need to put some flesh on the bones and build on it..
More incentive to get the Cerbera up and running..
b19nor said:
I went down and thought it was poor show for the amount of Supercars there is in Scotland esp in the Aberdeen area I know others would take cars down.
What has an Ingliston 'revival' got to do with supercars anyway? If it's a revival of Ingliston's motorsport history I wouldn't expect to see any, just like if I went to the Goodwood Revival.Alba said:
@peteA thanks for you and your teams hospitality over the weekend and sorry for squatting on your pitch, hope you were not delayed too much on the way home. Managed to get home by 10.30pm after a uni drop and back up the next day to pick up 2 remaining cars.
Good foundation for a weekend in principle, just need to put some flesh on the bones and build on it..
More incentive to get the Cerbera up and running..
No problems - good meeting you guys and loved your cars! Your right about the potential of the event and yes get the Cerb sorted! Loved mine.Good foundation for a weekend in principle, just need to put some flesh on the bones and build on it..
More incentive to get the Cerbera up and running..
Drive back was ok just could have done with getting back to Newcastle a bit earlier that's all - I was up at 6 to go to Glasgow the next morning!
Hopefully see you there next year....
Edited by peteA on Thursday 17th September 19:47
Agree with most of the comments would be good to see this event prosper and yes we had a few Vxr8 there hopefully more next year if it continuea and thanks for the picture of my Bathurst S, last thought the Lotus was trying coming onto the straight thanks for the exibition sounded nice
Some photos that I took over here...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/grantgb/albums/72157...
I asked to have a stand for the Hot Rod/Classic American group thatI run some time ago, never heard back. One of the race team did offer me and some others some space on their stand in the end but I couldn't get the time to leave the car their all weekend or even all day. One thing they would benefit from like Goodwood would be to have day parking for those who turn up in anything interesting that could then become part of the show, that would encourage more classics along.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/grantgb/albums/72157...
I asked to have a stand for the Hot Rod/Classic American group thatI run some time ago, never heard back. One of the race team did offer me and some others some space on their stand in the end but I couldn't get the time to leave the car their all weekend or even all day. One thing they would benefit from like Goodwood would be to have day parking for those who turn up in anything interesting that could then become part of the show, that would encourage more classics along.
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