Knockhill Experience

Knockhill Experience

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Sko77y

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361 posts

129 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Hi all,

Been bought a driving experience for Knockhill to take my car round with a teacher. Only thing is my clutch is on it's last legs and I'm not able to change it anytime soon.

So I've got a couple of options to change to, one of these three alternatives:

- Single Seater Race Experience
- Legend Race Experience
- Rally Experience

Has anyone done any of these before? Any recommendations?

Honestly, I can't decide, I've done super-car driving experience (2-3 times) and a drift experience.

All opinions welcome! Apart from fix my clutch!

Scott

marshal_alan

432 posts

178 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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legends are simply mental, look on youtube at the races. no aero, free revving engine, sequential box and all the grip is mechanical. anyone I know who has driven one has climbed out with a massive grin. I cant drive them as fat tall blokes dont fit I'm 6'4" btw so dont fit in much

Sko77y

Original Poster:

361 posts

129 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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marshal_alan said:
legends are simply mental, look on youtube at the races. no aero, free revving engine, sequential box and all the grip is mechanical. anyone I know who has driven one has climbed out with a massive grin. I cant drive them as fat tall blokes dont fit I'm 6'4" btw so dont fit in much
Thanks for the input Alan, with that in mind I think they look really good. See if anyone else has experience of the other 2.

driver67

978 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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I've done the Rally Driving previously which was great fun.

Not much to add really, done in groups so there is an element of hanging around while others have their go.

It gives you a break between your sessions though and I enjoyed it.


ModernAndy

2,094 posts

135 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Do the new Fiesta rally cars have a hydraulic handbrake? If so, are you actually allowed to use it? They didn't let you in the old Subarus (regular handbrake) and went so far as to put a sliding door lock on the lever so it couldn't be pulled up.

Fitz666

638 posts

142 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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My better half has done all of the ones at Knockhill.

The single seater she struggled with as it is a bike gearbox. Loved it for lining up the apex's though.
The Legends, simiar gearbox issues but found it less fun thatn the single seater, she said if she was on the track with 10 others wheel to wheel it would have been superb.
Rally School, not as much off roading as she would have liked.

She got more out of the Advanded Racing in the Cupras.

Then she did Drift School and got rid of her Mini Cooper S and bought a Z4 coupe....

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Legends and Single seaters follow the same format. You arrive and get your briefing, then it's out for some laps in the Civic Type-R instruction cars (just got rid of the Leons). Once you've done that you get taken in a small group for a couple of laps in the people carrier with an instructor driving, one lap of what you should do, one lap of all the common mistakes. After that you'll get strapped in to the single seater or Legend and out for your laps.

This year it's new single seaters, the bike engine/gearbox'd cars are done and replaced by new single seaters with 1.8 Audi engines. Haven't tried one myself yet but feedback I've heard is they're sweet.

Rally School, you get a briefing then put in to groups of typically 3 drivers. You take it in turns to go out with the instructor for your first 5 runs through the stage going counterclockwise getting instruction on the lines etc and introducing using the handbrake (yes, the Fiestas are all plumbed with hydraulic handbrakes and they work VERY well!). Once everyone has done their run, first person is back in and go for 4 runs through the stage clockwise using a slightly different route so it's not as simple as driving the stage in the opposite direction. First 2 runs clockwise are with further instruction then the final 2 (which make up a fair bit of your overall score), the instructor will be acting as your navigator calling pace notes. Once everyone in the group has done their clockwise runs, they instructor takes you for a demo run.

IainT V6

886 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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If Bob Watson is there offering rally passenger laps in his Focus it's well worth a go - did this a couple of years ago when they still had the fleet of Subaru's and my old man was enjoying the rally experience we got for his birthday. I signed up, jumped in and hung on as Bob proceeded to tear up the stage whilst overtaking all of the paying customer experience drivers, including one chap who was so determined the unassuming looking little Focus was not going past him he spun out hehe



Sko77y

Original Poster:

361 posts

129 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Thanks everyone for the replies, a lot of information to take on board.

I think I'll find out dates for the single seater and rally course, swaying a little more to rallying.

Cheers,
Scott

Peanut Gallery

2,428 posts

110 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I did the single seater and legend in November 2012 I think. Great fun - also my first track day like this.

Seat Leons were diesels, they were good, you are shown where the lines are, where to start braking etc.

Next up was the single seater -
I was not used to zero power at low revs, so stalled about 10 times just trying to drive out of the pit lane.
Motorbike gearbox, so push forwards to go down gears, pull back to go up the gears (I think!)
They feel fast and are good fun, but I was being overtaken lots on the straights. (I thought I had been black flagged, it was just a blue flag - I shared the track with a Ferrari and an Aston)
Here was me on my first attempt to drive down the straight


Big grin on my face when I came in


Next up was the legend,

Again really good fun, noticeably more power, I put it into the gravel once, but the instructors came around and helped push me back onto the track and requested that I don't floor it with them standing behind the car, but can floor it from the time I get back onto the track. They get sideways really easily, so I really had to work on driving.

As I enjoy revs, I am told I was the loudest out there, in all three cars.

As mentioned earlier by emicen the cars have changed since then, so all this has changed, but you get the idea.

You are local to me, shout if you want more details of my trip.

Sko77y

Original Poster:

361 posts

129 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Peanut Gallery said:
I did the single seater and legend in November 2012 I think. Great fun - also my first track day like this.

Seat Leons were diesels, they were good, you are shown where the lines are, where to start braking etc.

Next up was the single seater -
I was not used to zero power at low revs, so stalled about 10 times just trying to drive out of the pit lane.
Motorbike gearbox, so push forwards to go down gears, pull back to go up the gears (I think!)
They feel fast and are good fun, but I was being overtaken lots on the straights. (I thought I had been black flagged, it was just a blue flag - I shared the track with a Ferrari and an Aston)
Here was me on my first attempt to drive down the straight

Again really good fun, noticeably more power, I put it into the gravel once, but the instructors came around and helped push me back onto the track and requested that I don't floor it with them standing behind the car, but can floor it from the time I get back onto the track. They get sideways really easily, so I really had to work on driving.

As I enjoy revs, I am told I was the loudest out there, in all three cars.

As mentioned earlier by emicen the cars have changed since then, so all this has changed, but you get the idea.

You are local to me, shout if you want more details of my trip.
Thanks Peanut, very informative, I had gone to book the single seater but didn't have my voucher code on me. The more I think about it the more indecisive I get.

I do like sliding about, but I also want to learn Knockhill.

I'll decide tonight smile

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

171 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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I done the single seater and loved it. It so surreal being so close to the ground and practically lying down.

Sko77y

Original Poster:

361 posts

129 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Cheers guys, booked single seater for the 4th of March. I'll update when I've been.

Allandwf

1,755 posts

195 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Pity you can't get the clutch done, and do it in your own car. Was well impressed at how the old road car handled the track.