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tenfour said:
Mad Jock said:
1) Take your CBT.
2) Take your motorcycle test.
3) Pass your motorcycle test.
4) Buy a motorcycle of whatever capacity suits your needs.
5) Buy suitable wet weather gear, can be worn over office clothing.
6) Commute in by motorcycle, laugh at the muppets stuck in their cars.
7) Park free of charge all day.
8) Commute home by motorcycle, laugh at the muppets still stuck in their cars.
9) Abandon motorcycle in winter when it's snowing or sub-zero. Global warming will minimise these days, according to the council.
This 2) Take your motorcycle test.
3) Pass your motorcycle test.
4) Buy a motorcycle of whatever capacity suits your needs.
5) Buy suitable wet weather gear, can be worn over office clothing.
6) Commute in by motorcycle, laugh at the muppets stuck in their cars.
7) Park free of charge all day.
8) Commute home by motorcycle, laugh at the muppets still stuck in their cars.
9) Abandon motorcycle in winter when it's snowing or sub-zero. Global warming will minimise these days, according to the council.
Humper said:
1 Take the cbt
2 Buy a 125cc scooter
3 Use it
If, in the 2 years you have till you need to sit a test, you don't realise what a good idea this is, go back to sitting in your car.
But not this 2 Buy a 125cc scooter
3 Use it
If, in the 2 years you have till you need to sit a test, you don't realise what a good idea this is, go back to sitting in your car.
For the simple reason that the second you're able to get to grips with a 125cc, you'll be aching to climb onto a litre superbike.
I find it quite saddening that 99% of this forum have absolutely no idea what they're missing.
k about it, it keeps your feet dry, I had a big topbox that took my one piece suit, the helmet went below the seat, and my 1200 didn't rack up miles and wear 
Buy the superbike, keep the s
tty scooter for commuting jshell said:
FFS what? They deliberately tried to engineer congestion so the tram would seem a better solution than the car and not a monumental waste of our money. It's very nice to see them getting stuck.[quote=colin79666]Please consider signing this:
https://www.change.org/p/scottish-government-make-...
The bypass backlog is overflowing onto the A701 and A702 so even those of us not trying to join it are being help up for up to half an hour every morning. For all the new housing on the periphery or Edinburgh and new offices out at the Gyle area there has been zero investment in the bypass or public transport that doesn't go via the town centre.quote]
The bypass is a joke. I can't count the number of times or dare think of the hours of my life wasted sitting at Hermiston Gait roundabout coming from Gogar roundabout, trying to get onto a clear M8. The prize tools going to the bypass push through the (terribly) timed light sequences and block the entire roundabout, allowing 2 cars a turn to squeeze onto the roundabout, to be met with floods of horns and profanities from the very same aholes who are blocking the roundabout.
I'm no supporter of cameras but on Hermiston Gait, Gogar and Sheriffhall roundabouts (3 prime roundabouts I can think of) they need to paint some keep clears/boxes and slap up cameras. They'd make millions a month at £100 a go and maybe people might stop doing it, which in turn will help congestion. It's infuriating to have 45 minutes of your evening wasted trying to get on a clear road by what is just rudeness and lack of consideration.
Maybe they could then use that money to resurface the roads beyond a state that a third world country would be ashamed of. Maybe a campaign to go round and paint penii (the plural of penises) and profanities on any potholes (something like "fix this you council c**ts) would get the council to take action. Bare minimum, when they come and clean it off they are now aware of the pothole and I can charge them for the damage to my car from skelping potholes that on most roads, you can't avoid, you just pick which hole you hit.
https://www.change.org/p/scottish-government-make-...
The bypass backlog is overflowing onto the A701 and A702 so even those of us not trying to join it are being help up for up to half an hour every morning. For all the new housing on the periphery or Edinburgh and new offices out at the Gyle area there has been zero investment in the bypass or public transport that doesn't go via the town centre.quote]
The bypass is a joke. I can't count the number of times or dare think of the hours of my life wasted sitting at Hermiston Gait roundabout coming from Gogar roundabout, trying to get onto a clear M8. The prize tools going to the bypass push through the (terribly) timed light sequences and block the entire roundabout, allowing 2 cars a turn to squeeze onto the roundabout, to be met with floods of horns and profanities from the very same a
holes who are blocking the roundabout.I'm no supporter of cameras but on Hermiston Gait, Gogar and Sheriffhall roundabouts (3 prime roundabouts I can think of) they need to paint some keep clears/boxes and slap up cameras. They'd make millions a month at £100 a go and maybe people might stop doing it, which in turn will help congestion. It's infuriating to have 45 minutes of your evening wasted trying to get on a clear road by what is just rudeness and lack of consideration.
Maybe they could then use that money to resurface the roads beyond a state that a third world country would be ashamed of. Maybe a campaign to go round and paint penii (the plural of penises) and profanities on any potholes (something like "fix this you council c**ts) would get the council to take action. Bare minimum, when they come and clean it off they are now aware of the pothole and I can charge them for the damage to my car from skelping potholes that on most roads, you can't avoid, you just pick which hole you hit.
1972 I could drive from Robertson Avenue to Northfield Broadway without going through a set of traffic lights.
1976 I could get a bus from St Andrew Square to Longniddry and take just 35 minutes (in a bus that was comfortable too!)
1985 I could drive from Sighthill to North Berwick without going through a set of traffic lights and take just 45 minutes to get there
2016 It takes the bus 75 - 80 minutes to go from Waverley to Longniddry on a bus that has concrete hard seats
2016 - I can't even get out of Robertson Avenue without going through lights.
2016 - it can take me 45 minutes to get from one side of the Hermiston Roundabout to get on to the City Bypass.
Thank god I've retired and in no special hurry any more!
1976 I could get a bus from St Andrew Square to Longniddry and take just 35 minutes (in a bus that was comfortable too!)
1985 I could drive from Sighthill to North Berwick without going through a set of traffic lights and take just 45 minutes to get there
2016 It takes the bus 75 - 80 minutes to go from Waverley to Longniddry on a bus that has concrete hard seats
2016 - I can't even get out of Robertson Avenue without going through lights.
2016 - it can take me 45 minutes to get from one side of the Hermiston Roundabout to get on to the City Bypass.
Thank god I've retired and in no special hurry any more!
AH33 said:
jshell said:
FFS what? They deliberately tried to engineer congestion so the tram would seem a better solution than the car and not a monumental waste of our money. It's very nice to see them getting stuck.grumpyscot said:
1972 I could drive from Robertson Avenue to Northfield Broadway without going through a set of traffic lights.
1976 I could get a bus from St Andrew Square to Longniddry and take just 35 minutes (in a bus that was comfortable too!)
1985 I could drive from Sighthill to North Berwick without going through a set of traffic lights and take just 45 minutes to get there
2016 It takes the bus 75 - 80 minutes to go from Waverley to Longniddry on a bus that has concrete hard seats
2016 - I can't even get out of Robertson Avenue without going through lights.
2016 - it can take me 45 minutes to get from one side of the Hermiston Roundabout to get on to the City Bypass.
Thank god I've retired and in no special hurry any more!
1976 - I could drive from Oxgangs to Haddington in 14 minutes. (OK, it was four in the morning, in July, and I got all of the lights at green, but you still had to go through Braidhills, past the Kings Buildings, out by Peffermill, take the wee side road to Musselburgh (Whitehill road, access gone now), out by the race course and finally on to the A1 at the Wallyford roundabout). 1976 I could get a bus from St Andrew Square to Longniddry and take just 35 minutes (in a bus that was comfortable too!)
1985 I could drive from Sighthill to North Berwick without going through a set of traffic lights and take just 45 minutes to get there
2016 It takes the bus 75 - 80 minutes to go from Waverley to Longniddry on a bus that has concrete hard seats
2016 - I can't even get out of Robertson Avenue without going through lights.
2016 - it can take me 45 minutes to get from one side of the Hermiston Roundabout to get on to the City Bypass.
Thank god I've retired and in no special hurry any more!
I may have actually done that, if the statute of limitations apply. If not, I obviously dreamed it.
I am ashamed that Edinburgh is my capital city. It now must rank as the worst run city in Europe. The whole Council needs to be removed lock, stock and barrel. The incompetence and corruption is out of control.
Remove all the signs and speed cameras and aggressively regulate road works with massive fines for companies who don't comply. Only one set of works for each traffic route at a time. Works on main routes to be carried out only at off peak times.
Put back on patrol half a dozen fully marked up traffic cars manned by utter bds and ticket everyone who cannot or will not drive properly and courteously: no exceptions!
You would transform the city and people's lives.
J
Remove all the signs and speed cameras and aggressively regulate road works with massive fines for companies who don't comply. Only one set of works for each traffic route at a time. Works on main routes to be carried out only at off peak times.
Put back on patrol half a dozen fully marked up traffic cars manned by utter b
ds and ticket everyone who cannot or will not drive properly and courteously: no exceptions!You would transform the city and people's lives.
J
I like in Murrayfield but most of my work is East Lothian. No problems getting down in the morning usually about 30-35 mins I head home at around 3pm so miss the rush hour. If I'm going east through the city I take a bus/tram.
Don't find Edinburgh any different from any other big city.
Don't find Edinburgh any different from any other big city.
Anyone notice the work going on at Telford Road across from the Hospital?
The are removing the lay byes where there is a bus stop and just tarring over so there is a wide path, but it looks like the bus stop remains so the busses create havoc stopping in the middle of the road rather than having a lay bye to pull into.
The are removing the lay byes where there is a bus stop and just tarring over so there is a wide path, but it looks like the bus stop remains so the busses create havoc stopping in the middle of the road rather than having a lay bye to pull into.
Number 97 said:
Anyone notice the work going on at Telford Road across from the Hospital?
The are removing the lay byes where there is a bus stop and just tarring over so there is a wide path, but it looks like the bus stop remains so the busses create havoc stopping in the middle of the road rather than having a lay bye to pull into.
Yup, on my daily commute to Crewe Toll. I was thinking the exact same thing. For a road with hardly any foot traffic that would be complete madness. So typical CEC.The are removing the lay byes where there is a bus stop and just tarring over so there is a wide path, but it looks like the bus stop remains so the busses create havoc stopping in the middle of the road rather than having a lay bye to pull into.
Type R Tom said:
How many people commute single figure journeys by car every day in Edinburgh? I don't know the city at all but I can't help but think that has got to be part of the problem?
The big problem with Edinburgh is there are big numbers of commuters from outside, which is fine on it's own, but there are only 2 major roads west out of the city. The city bypass also hasn't had major work since it was completed in the late 80s, it really could do with three lanes in each direction with better connections to the M8 on the west side of the city.Type R Tom said:
How many people commute single figure journeys by car every day in Edinburgh? I don't know the city at all but I can't help but think that has got to be part of the problem?
Its enough of a nightmare to try and walk to work in this city, I live next to the Meadows and work just off York place and it takes about 40 mins on a decent day, during the festival its a bloody nightmare. I actually walk out on a longer route which takes about an hour to avoid the crowds. I would love to cycle but the roads are bad enough for people trying to hit you in a car let alone on a bike. It actually took me less time to get to and from work when I live at the folks place out past Tranent...AndrewEH1 said:
Type R Tom said:
How many people commute single figure journeys by car every day in Edinburgh? I don't know the city at all but I can't help but think that has got to be part of the problem?
The big problem with Edinburgh is there are big numbers of commuters from outside, which is fine on it's own, but there are only 2 major roads west out of the city. The city bypass also hasn't had major work since it was completed in the late 80s, it really could do with three lanes in each direction with better connections to the M8 on the west side of the city.I live in South Gyle and work at the bottom of Dundas St. On the odd days I drive to work if I need my car or I've dropped it in for a service, my drive to work/home isn't all that bad as there is decent rat runs off those major routes. Even at 8:30am it takes me about 30 minutes to get to work. If I have to get past Gogar/Calder/Ferry to collect the car though, you can add another 30 to 60 minutes on just getting past those choke points.
It's going to be even worse at Gogar/Hermiston soon too. They've just flung up a load of houses at South Gyle and RBS is moving many of thousands more staff to the South Gyle/Gogar campus. So if you think it's bad now, just wait until 2017...
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