Rub dub dub

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mikeb

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2,869 posts

283 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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Have a look at this little lot then, see what you think...


www.pixeltechnology.co.uk/wedge/test.html


Mike

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Friday 21st May 2004
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Blimey. What is the distance from the front of the tyre to the wheel arch (horizontally) and the rear of the tyre to the rear of the wheel arch?

If you repeat that for all 4 wheels are they all in the middle of the wheel arches? It looks like you need to move the body forward about 20mm!!!

Fitting 205/55/15s may avoid this. That's not normal for a wedge.

BTW that colour looks just like mine.

mikeb

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2,869 posts

283 months

Saturday 22nd May 2004
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Mad 'isn't it?!.

I am going to try the 55's and see how I get on.

When the wheels are straight there seems loads of room, when you try and turn in left the gap comes down to about 2-3mm!.

And as you can see under load it has been rubbing.

The other side looks ok.

I have checked all the springs, suspension bits and everything looks ok.

I need to create some room and I am going to try the 55's.

Mike

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Saturday 22nd May 2004
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mikeb said:
Have a look at this little lot then, see what you think...


www.pixeltechnology.co.uk/wedge/test.html


Mike
Mike - that doesn't load - Streaky

mikeb

Original Poster:

2,869 posts

283 months

Saturday 22nd May 2004
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Have another go fella.

Mike B

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Saturday 22nd May 2004
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streaky said:
Mike - that doesn't load - Streaky


Hmmm, loads fine on my machine. Mike are you sure that the vertical centrelines of the wheels is concentric with the vertical centrelines of the wheel arches? I don't see how they can be on your car at present; especially picture 3.

DJC1001

490 posts

247 months

Saturday 22nd May 2004
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Seems obvious but looks like your tie bars are wound up too far pulling the bottom wishbone and wheel forward also magnifying the castor angle when you turn.
Check under the car - looking across the car the wishbones should look parrellel to the main cross member NOT angled forward.
I have seen a couple of wedges with the tie bars nuts wound as far down the thread as possible - nearer to half way is correct.

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Saturday 22nd May 2004
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DJC1001 said:
Seems obvious but looks like your tie bars are wound up too far pulling the bottom wishbone and wheel forward also magnifying the castor angle when you turn.
Check under the car - looking across the car the wishbones should look parrellel to the main cross member NOT angled forward.
I have seen a couple of wedges with the tie bars nuts wound as far down the thread as possible - nearer to half way is correct.


Good thought David, well worth checking.

mikeb

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2,869 posts

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Saturday 22nd May 2004
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I reckon it has gotta be that. I will go and have a look tomorrow.

Thinking on, this side was a mare to change the springs the other day....

Mike

mikeb

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2,869 posts

283 months

Sunday 30th May 2004
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Well the mystery gets more curious!......

Had the front suspension in bits again today.

Totally replaced the bushes on the front with poly versions had a good look and a poke at all the angles and geometry all looked as it should. But the drivers side wheel still is very near to the front wheel arch and almost rubs (still).

Although by fitting new poly bushes to the leading links and uplinks etc it did create more clearance on the drivers side wheel but nowhere as much as the other side.

I even measured the hub centres on the front and back wheels on the same side with the steering straight, and the two sides of the car measured exactly the same - which would indicate that the leading link setting is correct.

I also measured the amount of thread left on the leading link on both sides and it was identical.

The body is straight to the chassis and the amount of rubber blocks under each side against the chassis measures the same thickness.

The ground clearance to the top of each wheel arch is 25 inches on the fronts (26 inches on the back) with 26 psi on my 205/60/15's.

Finally, I measured the width of the actual GRP wheel arch and the drivers side is about 1 inch smaller than the passenger side!. There is no signs of damage repair, could the TVR mould be different?!.

Measure your wheel arch straight across from where the front splitter joins to where the sill starts on the other side, do your measurements come to the same for both sides?????.

I am going to switch the front tyres to 205/55/15's to gain the extra 10mm clearance and then everything should be ok, still bl**dy odd though.

Mike

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

262 months

Monday 31st May 2004
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mikeb said:
The drivers side front wheel is very close to the lower front splitter/front wheel arch on a right hand lock, the other side has a little more clearance but not much.

I definately rubs under driving and any sort of 'load'.



Mike,

I'm running 205/60 R15 and had no problems until recently. I had the alignment of the car setup, and the left front wheel is now occasionally rubbing against the back of the wheel arch! So, my problem is exactly the opposite. Had the car aligned before and never had this problem!

What I think, is that with the setup and especially the tie rods (it is the function of the tie rod adjustment) towards the front, the 'problem' can be corrected.
Hopefully the explanation is clear....
Perhaps try this first, before changing tyres, etc.

Rob (350i, 1987)

mikeb

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2,869 posts

283 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Well, took the 350 for a four wheel alignment and the castor angle was out especially since re-busing and fitting new springs.

I did notice before that the car has also started to pull to one side slightly as well.

All corrected now though and the car now drives straight, the steering wheel is now straight and the front driver's side wheel has been pulled back giving extra clearance.

I may still drop the tyre size though, will have to work on burning out the tyres!

See you all at Coombe on Sunday.

MikeB

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Well done. I think that it's worth dropping the size to allow you to buy better rubber anyway - SO3PPs et al.