wedge coil

wedge coil

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jvaughan

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6,025 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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Guys, need to replace the coil on the wedge.. anyone have an oppinion of the best one to get ?

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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Not sure of the part number, but mine was changed recently. Mark Adams swears by the Bosch one for the RV8. Not a wedge but a RV8 Tiv all the same I could have a look at it in the garage if required to see if I can spot any identification marks .

Harry

rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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Good buy. I think its worth it.

Mark Adams

356 posts

260 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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If you're looking for a recommendation, the Bosch PRC6574 (Land Rover part no) is the best bet. Sadly they now seem to have plain silver Aluminium cases instead of the satin Black they used to be.

You can get one from reputable suppliers such as ACT. BTW I have only ever seen one defective Bosch coil.

The MSD Blaster coils work very well too, but I have been unable to detect any significant difference on the dyno for EFI motors.

Either of these coils are of excellent quality.

There is another option, which is an Accel (USA) coil, available from Real Steel (Uxbridge). This gives a spark like an arc welder, and works especially well on carburetted race motors. The only challenge here is that IMHO it is UGLEEEEE! It has a large square finned yellow plastic case with a brown top - good taste or what?

If you are looking at other coils, then the most important thing is that they are designed for Constant Energy ignition systems. This means they will have a primary resistance of around 0.5 to 0.8 Ohms.

jvaughan

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6,025 posts

283 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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Cheers Mark .. Im off to my local Landrover dealer this afternoon

wedget

467 posts

239 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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I bought a Crane Cams coil and that worked very well indeed, nothing wrong with my old coil and i noticed the difference straight away. Dont know if they do one for bigger engine though. But well worth considering.

johndvh

43 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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When I got some starting problems with the 400SE (hotwire) which turned out to be a dodgy wire connection, I also checked the coil. As far as I can see, the regular Lucas coil is fitted. The primary resistance turned out to be 3.0-3.3 Ohm and the secondary was about 5K. According to the wedge bible, it should yield 1.0-1.2 Ohm. 5K from the Lucas unit should be correct. As I understood, some like to replace them for the Bosch unit which yield about 8k.

The car starts fine, I don’t have any misfiring issue’s (cold nor hot), the coil does get hot, but not more than to be expected considering the environment where it’s living in. What are the consequences of a higher primary resistance? (or is there a measurement fault) I thought that cars without balance resistor required higher primary resistance?

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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There were two types as I recall, 6V ones must be used with a ballast resistor and 12V ones without.

The difference in primary resistance affects the amount of current that goes through the coil and therefore the energy in the spark when the current is interrupted by the points.

I would expect the 6V one to have a lower primary resistance than the 12V type, but whether that's a good means to identify them I don't know - better off using the part number on the coil.

I think the ballast resistor type fell by the wayside after battery and points technology improved, the original idea was that the solenoid disabled the resistor during cranking (e.g. on the Rover P5) and there would be a fatter spark off the 8 or 9V you would get across the battery.

JVaughan

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6,025 posts

283 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Just managed to locate a Bosch PRC6574 .. Rimmer Bros quoted £137 .. have found http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk selling them for £53 inc vat & delivery

Edited by JVaughan on Thursday 28th July 15:56

rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Got to be a record Jason - 12 years to decide to buy what was suggested on PH

hehe

JVaughan

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6,025 posts

283 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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rev-erend said:
Got to be a record Jason - 12 years to decide to buy what was suggested on PH

hehe
Yup smile just gotta get HT leads and Plugs now .....

rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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JVaughan said:
rev-erend said:
Got to be a record Jason - 12 years to decide to buy what was suggested on PH

hehe
Yup smile just gotta get HT leads and Plugs now .....
Lets hope the leads and plugs dont have to last another 12 years

biggrin

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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slightly of topic but do the Rv8's need a ballast resister ?

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Not really - see my post a couple up... P5's used to have them but also had a third contact on the starter solenoid that shorted it out. The only point of this arrangement is to make the spark fatter during cranking.

If you installed one (and a 6V coil) I suppose you could add an extra starter relay to defeat it, but I've never had a problem with ignition during cranking on wedges, so it hardly seems worth the bother.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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From my reading it they was mainly used on cars with manual points, as they could be left in a situation where the points would be closed, and if you left the ignition on, you could cook the coil.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Slightly off topic but quite relevant.

It's best to leave the small capacitor on the coil, it does aid in giving a better spark as well as reducing noise.

I watched an interesting YouTube video the explained the ins and outs of why, he had a setup with a scope also so you could see the difference. do a YouTube search if your interested.

JVaughan

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283 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Finally after 12 years ...

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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It'[s taken you 12 years to solve one side of your Rubik's cube??? My boy can do it in 90 seconds... ;^)

JVaughan

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283 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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adam quantrill said:
It'[s taken you 12 years to solve one side of your Rubik's cube??? My boy can do it in 90 seconds... ;^)
Send him around ! .... No, its my daughters.