New 350i owner

New 350i owner

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Mr Tank

5,797 posts

274 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Hi Ralph

Good news just wrk throug the rest one job at a time and you will get there! O! nice looking header tank you have got!

Andy

ralph350i

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791 posts

146 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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mrzigazaga said:
Wow..That sounds a lot better..clap..I can hear a faint whistle or rattle when you rev it, Unless thats the norm?...Shame about the starter and the clutch..I bet you were itching to drive it..Good news though..Nice one...Ziga
Cheers Ziga
Yeah i was until i found out it had more petrol than oil in the enginefrown but that comes with trying to start an engine too many times with faults so not an issue mate, the whistle or rattle god knows as yet mate, but when it was running it was smoking really badly from the exhaust i think, which must have been removed and not put back correctly or it could have been the clutch fluid that had leaked on the exhaust, am sure i,ll find out soon, cheers Ziga for all yours and everyones kind help, i owe you guys a beer
sorry
Quick question to the 350i lads, is the clutch surpose to be heavy on these cars please

Many Thanks

Ralph

barrington

1,316 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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they are bit heavy if someone with a 350i lives local go and try there clutch pedal

mrzigazaga

18,534 posts

164 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Mr Tank said:
nice looking header tank you have got!
And its wedge shaped..Just like the ones im hoping to get made!!...Just had a thought..You say the exhaust was smoking,Was this at or near the engine?..Maybe it was that that was causing the whistling?..Im not sure about yours but some clutches are heavy or feel that way in comparison to another car..Mine used to feel heavy until i got used to it..Mines a cable and when it starts creaking its time to replace as i found out on my way to last years BBWF.."PING"..Ziga

ralph350i

Original Poster:

791 posts

146 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Mr Tank said:
Hi Ralph

Good news just wrk throug the rest one job at a time and you will get there! O! nice looking header tank you have got!

Andy
Cheers Andy, sorry guys can see the multi quote button
Yeah it a nice bit of kit and well made, it was brought from Tvrcarparts.com for the sum of £258.00 so not cheap and yes Andy its gonna take a bit of time mate and cheers for your help.


ralph350i

Original Poster:

791 posts

146 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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mrzigazaga said:
And its wedge shaped..Just like the ones im hoping to get made!!...Just had a thought..You say the exhaust was smoking,Was this at or near the engine?..Maybe it was that that was causing the whistling?..Im not sure about yours but some clutches are heavy or feel that way in comparison to another car..Mine used to feel heavy until i got used to it..Mines a cable and when it starts creaking its time to replace as i found out on my way to last years BBWF.."PING"..Ziga
Thanks Barrington

Ziga
just post details on the tank mate and the smoking was mainly come from the exhaust joins under the car ( installed on the piss) and also on the manifolds ( exhaust paste ), the clutch i,ll have to pressure bleed mate and see what happens, hopefully it will be a little lighter

400SE Dave

1,296 posts

170 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Brilliant Ralph, well done for keeping at it and solving the running issues clap I am sure the others will be simple by comparison!!

As for the clutch I guess is depends what you compare it to. I would say it is heavier than most modern sports cars but best thing is to try another and see how it compares

Mike Brewer

612 posts

235 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Good on you Ralph.Watching with interest.Hope it goes ok for you .Cheers Mike

Mr Tank

5,797 posts

274 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Ralph

It may be heavy but doe's it work?

Andy

ralph350i

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791 posts

146 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Mr Tank said:
Ralph

It may be heavy but doe's it work?

Andy
Thanks dave and mike beer

Andy
I went to try it and the starter desided to smash it self to peices again, so no idea, i work for a drainage company so i,ll get one our cctv camera and have a look, but unless that flywheel has teeth missing which i really can't see, i reacon it these cheap chinese starters that are at fault.

ralph350i

Original Poster:

791 posts

146 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Hi Guys
well the road looks like a very long one after speaking to the last owner today.
please note i take full responsibility for the the buying of the car, so in no way do i blame the owner, so just wanted to make this clear before i comment
Well i have been informed that when the clutch was replaced only the clutch plate was changed, no pressure plate or flywheel, so the gearbox has to come out to correct and check both items as the starter issue pionts to the ring gear.
Thank god he drove the car for 3 months after the heads where repaired but this is now a worry and will have to check the mechinic work, so engine and box out i think and start again, pretty sh*t, but what can i do as i cant live with this hanging over my head, still on a brighter note, i can get the engine bay pianted and the engine cleaned up and looking smart, i was really looking forward to driving this car, but it looks like its gonna be a long time before that happens.

Could someone advise on the best way to remove the lump, does the front panel come off etc??? hope you guys can help

Cheers

Ralph

Mike Brewer

612 posts

235 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Sorry cant be much help as i am useless with spanners.But i am sure there will be plenty of help in a while.Cheers Mike

mrzigazaga

18,534 posts

164 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Hi Mate..That is a bit st!..Sounds like major surgery!!..Im sure someone will be able to help on engine removal..Its probably bonnet off and hoist out..Wish i could help more..Ziga

ralph350i

Original Poster:

791 posts

146 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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cheers Mike and ziga
No worries guys, it should not take to long to complete, so hopefully by summer i,ll be driving the wedge, roll on spring them longer hours will be needed and i best start taking them cod liver oil tablets, the old fella's gonna need them lol

cheers

Ralph

HOTTY

669 posts

173 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Hi Ralph

Sorry to hear of your woes, been reading with interest.

Sometimes things may seem worse they are as even removal of the engine and box and back in, is a long weekend with the right hoist.

But before you get cracking i dont understand, how is the starter motor breaking up, as it propels the fly wheel then retracts.

Now when i first started to turn my motor over after a long stationary period, it wouldn't start and the continuous turning smashed my starter, so not so unusal, maybe the new starters are not up to the job ?

I dont understand the conection with clutch and starter as the clutch cannot be engaged as your vid shows the engine running without the car moving.

Regarding the very heavy clutch (the 350 are a little heavy than norm but not by much), check the piston as these can get clogged when not used offen, change the fluid, buy a new slave before taking the car appart, worth a go for not much spend and quicker.

If all looks ok with the piston and fluid check in the housing to see if the folk operates with ease.

Best of luck

Hotty

ralph350i

Original Poster:

791 posts

146 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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HOTTY said:
Hi Ralph

Sorry to hear of your woes, been reading with interest.

Sometimes things may seem worse they are as even removal of the engine and box and back in, is a long weekend with the right hoist.

But before you get cracking i dont understand, how is the starter motor breaking up, as it propels the fly wheel then retracts.

Now when i first started to turn my motor over after a long stationary period, it wouldn't start and the continuous turning smashed my starter, so not so unusal, maybe the new starters are not up to the job ?

I dont understand the conection with clutch and starter as the clutch cannot be engaged as your vid shows the engine running without the car moving.

Regarding the very heavy clutch (the 350 are a little heavy than norm but not by much), check the piston as these can get clogged when not used offen, change the fluid, buy a new slave before taking the car appart, worth a go for not much spend and quicker.

If all looks ok with the piston and fluid check in the housing to see if the folk operates with ease.

Best of luck

Hotty
Hi Hotty
in regards to the starter the only thing i can pin piont is eva the ring gear is broken or the starter is not disengauging, this could be down to the igintion switch over running or starter being at fault, but this is the second one i have fitted and this one is a genuine part???, i,ll take off and test, the strange thing is i have the orginal starter and the teeth look great, but as the last owner did not start the car after the clutch was fitted, he would not have come across the issue.

In regards to the clutch my concern is the pressure plate not being changed, it may well be ok, but until i run the car i wont know, cheers for the heads up on the lump removal and i,ll check the slave etc as the system had no fluid in what so ever, i did fill the chamber and pumped the pedal and did get a clutch, but my M5 was heavy, this is in another league mate, still another week learning how the wedge works, which has been interesting to say the lease, still i am enjoying the challange and for some reason the car is growing on me, i think i need to see a doctor quick matebiglaugh

Kind Regards

Ralph

adam quantrill

11,535 posts

241 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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If you take the starter off you can inspect the ring gear through the hole, get a rear wheel chocked up, leave it in 4th and get an assistant to turn it while you look at the gear.

If it's busted then it will be pretty obvious. Your easiest bet is then to get a s/h flywheel off ebay (I think I have a spare).

If you are unsure of the clutch, bump start it and take it for a drive, if the clutch holds OK on full power in 4th then it's fine.

HOTTY

669 posts

173 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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ralph350i said:
Hi Hotty
in regards to the starter the only thing i can pin piont is eva the ring gear is broken or the starter is not disengauging, this could be down to the igintion switch over running or starter being at fault, but this is the second one i have fitted and this one is a genuine part???, i,ll take off and test, the strange thing is i have the orginal starter and the teeth look great, but as the last owner did not start the car after the clutch was fitted, he would not have come across the issue.

In regards to the clutch my concern is the pressure plate not being changed, it may well be ok, but until i run the car i wont know, cheers for the heads up on the lump removal and i,ll check the slave etc as the system had no fluid in what so ever, i did fill the chamber and pumped the pedal and did get a clutch, but my M5 was heavy, this is in another league mate, still another week learning how the wedge works, which has been interesting to say the lease, still i am enjoying the challange and for some reason the car is growing on me, i think i need to see a doctor quick matebiglaugh

Kind Regards

Ralph
They do get under your skin, even when busted laugh

Unfortunalety there is always something to do but when running, serviced and used regularly, not that much.

If you take the plate off the bottom of the bell housing next to the sump it will help you see clear if you have teeth missing on the fly wheel (you will have to turn the engine over by hand to see the whole thing)

Sounds to me like something much simpler regarding the clutch as when i frist purchased my 400 i thought that my clutch was stuck on but infact the fluid had frozen as the car had not been used for many years, its still going 8k and 2 years.

But you never know, keep my fingers crossed for you.

Hotty

The Hatter

988 posts

169 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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It might be a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway. Do all Rover V8s have the same diameter flywheels with the same number of teeth? Ralph, have you studied the old and new starter pinions, and their relationship to the mounting bolt position?

ralph350i

Original Poster:

791 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Morning Guys
Many thanks for all the advise and will check all at the weekend, i do have another starter so lets see.

Kind Regards


Ralph